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Brian Hales & The Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Book Review: ML: 140 We lost Dan due to storms affecting his internet connection, so join us next week for part 2! In this week’s episode, Mormon apologist Brian Hales enters the scene to deliver a 2-star review of “Charisma under Pressure,” the groundbreaking book by Mormon critic Dan Vogel. As the battle of perspectives unfolds, it becomes apparent that Brian’s review may not be all it seems, raising questions about intellectual honesty and genuine consideration. While giving us all pause to consider the believing mindset and church loyalty of its apologists while also considering the fine line between passionate belief and intentional misleading. Chapters09:00 The Review17:30 Brian Hales by the numbers23:25 The first paragraph28:00 Brian makes the caricatures 32:30 Second paragraph34:15 God of the (dictation) gap48:00 RFM on the revelations Joseph also got50:00 BoM a “complex” book1:08:45 Joseph’s Composition and Oratory skills1:27:45 Bill goes over proof he is a liar1:30:45 Caller: Brian, words aren’t miracles1:39:20 NaNoWriMo1:45:25 Caller: I wrote my 77,000 Master’s thesis as a mom of 5 in two months Welcome to “Mormonism Live,” the ultimate talk show that delves into the messiness of Mormon history and theology while also tackling current events with a live call-in section at the end of every episode. Hosted by two trusted voices in the Mormon community, Radio Free Mormon (RFM) and Bill Reel, this podcast has been taking on the tough issues and exploring the nuances of the LDS faith for years.Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: https://mormonismlive.org/2020/12/mormonism-live/?default_interval=mTake a look at our Merch! https://www.exmoshirts.com/collections/mormondiscussionsSign up for our (mostly) quarterly newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hrnr4P Our Platforms:MormonDiscussions.org, MormonismLIVE.orgSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19LxPcTdYUeBhEqUaZNCFmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormonism-live/id1546629841 Connect on Social Media:Private facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1307897462893835Insta: https://www.instagram.com/mormondiscussion/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormondiscussionDiscord (hosted by Mormon Stories): https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjFhttps://twitter.com/MormonDisc Contact us: MormonDiscussionsPodcasts@gmail.com MormonismLive #MormonDiscussions #RadioFreeMormon Mormon Discussion Inc is a 501(c)(3) and is in the arena of journalistic work and is part of a free press. Any of the awesome content or the solid opinions expressed, implied or included in Mormon Discussion Inc’s podcast lineup and production are solely those of Mormon Discussion Inc. and/or its program hosts and not those of Intellectual Reserve, Inc. or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

I had a number of interesting adventures on my one-week trip to Utah to present at Sunstone! This is the story. The names have been changed to protect the innocent. Or not!

Step off the beaten path of Mormon history and venture into the realm of relics & artifacts that shed light on lesser-known aspects of the Mormon faith. Delve into the enigmatic history of handkerchiefs, coffin canes, along with other obscure artifacts that whisper compelling tales from the annals of Mormon History. Chapters: 13:00 Zelph Arrowhead24:00ish Everything Joseph trips over ends up supremely significant26:00 Masonic Apron 27:40 Joseph’s Red Silk Handkerchief31:20 Joseph Smith Nauvoo Legion Attire32:45 Joseph’s Pepperbox Pistol34:30 Hyrum’s clothing at Martyrdom and the box the plates were stored in37:10 Coffin Canes54:00 David Whitmer Chest & Martin Harris Leather Wallet54:45 John Taylor Watch57:45 Mormon Gold Coins59:00 They are substandard01:03:10 Hyrum Smith’s Sunglasses01:03:55 Book of Abraham Printing Plates01:11:10 Oliver Cowdery’s Rod of Aaron01:20:00 James Rafael update01:26:50 Caller: Captain Moroni01:32:30 Caller: Kate on Nauvoo pageant Welcome to “Mormonism Live,” the ultimate talk show that delves into the messiness of Mormon history and theology while also tackling current events with a live call-in section at the end of every episode. Hosted by two trusted voices in the Mormon community, Radio Free Mormon (RFM) and Bill Reel, this podcast has been taking on the tough issues and exploring the nuances of the LDS faith for years.Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: https://mormonismlive.org/2020/12/mormonism-live/?default_interval=mTake a look at our Merch! https://www.exmoshirts.com/collections/mormondiscussionsSign up for our (mostly) quarterly newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hrnr4POur Platforms: MormonDiscussions.org, MormonismLIVE.orgSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19LxPcTdYUeBhEqUaZNCFmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormonism-live/id1546629841 Connect on Social Media: Private facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1307897462893835Insta: https://www.instagram.com/mormondiscussion/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormondiscussionDiscord (hosted by Mormon Stories): https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjFhttps://twitter.com/MormonDiscContact us: MormonDiscussionsPodcasts@gmail.com MormonismLive #MormonDiscussions #RadioFreeMormon Mormon Discussion Inc is a 501(c)(3) and is in the arena of journalistic work and is part of a free press. Any of the awesome content or the solid opinions expressed, implied or included in Mormon Discussion Inc’s podcast lineup and production are solely those of Mormon Discussion Inc. and/or its program hosts and not those of Intellectual Reserve, Inc. or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

RFM and Bill Reel are joined by Spencer who shares the latest from the Widows Mite Report (https://widowsmitereport.wordpress.com/) and share their latest reveal calling into question the perception that the Deseret Mutual Benefit Administration (DMBA) was at the same time Ensign Peak was being investigated, allegedly doing the same funny business as Ensign Peak was in not filing 13F forms disclosing investment assets. Spencer runs us through the data and informs us that an anonymous person has filed complaints with the SEC. He shows that Beneficial Life may have also been doing the same thing. We are informed that a familiar face was on the board of DMBA and we also learn about “Plan Z”. While the Church has considered the SEC escapade closed, it appears that these prophets may not have seen around corners. Widow’s Mite Report on the DMBA – https://widowsmitereport.wordpress.com/dmba/ LDS Charities Report showing Roger Clarke on the board – https://widowsmitereport.wordpress.com/ldsc/ SEC Report – https://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2023/34-96951.pdf Church’s official Response to previous infraction – https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/church-issues-statement-on-sec-settlement Mormonism Live covering the SEC scandal – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81zb4ZQx6gM

On March 7, 2023, a four-hour evidentiary hearing was held on Jenn Kamp‘s petition to have a permanent anti-stalking order placed against John Dehlin. This is the full audio of that hearing!

Join us on a captivating episode as we explore the multifaceted life of Samuel Brannan, a charismatic leader who played a pivotal role in both in Mormonism and the California Gold Rush. We trace Brannan’s journey from his membership in Mormonism, to his leading a group of Mormon pioneers on the perilous voyage of the Brooklyn, and his transformation into a savvy businessman and perhaps California’s first millionaire. Learn about the voyage of the Brooklyn as we examine the motivations behind this perilous journey, tracing it back to the religious aspirations of the Mormon community at the time. Delve into the trials and triumphs faced by the passengers, the challenges of sea travel during that era, and the subsequent impact of the voyage on the development of Mormon settlements in California. We discuss Brannan and the Mormons arrival in California, and Brannan’s subsequent involvement in the booming industry around the California Gold Rush. Discover the complex legacy of Samuel Brannan, whose actions left an indelible mark on both religious and economic landscapes. This episode uncovers the unique intersection of faith, manifest destiny, and migration in American history.RESOURCES: Voyage of the Brooklyn Saints – WikipediaMormon pioneers – Wikipedia History of Ship Brooklyn Celebrated in California (churchofjesuschrist.org) Ship Brooklyn | California Pioneer Heritage Foundation Quest to Find the Painting of the Ship Brooklyn (familysearch.org) Brooklyn, California – Wikipedia Ship Brooklyn • FamilySearch https://scholarlypublishingcollective.org/uip/dial/article-pdf/21/3/46/1959236/45228009.pdf True Community: Latter-day Saints in San Bernardino, 1851–1857 (churchofjesuschrist.org) John M. Horner – Wikipedia Ship Brooklyn Historical Marker (hmdb.org) California’s Pioneer Era 1846-1886 | California Pioneer Heritage Foundation California Beginnings: 1846 | Religious Studies Center (byu.edu) LDS Church in California | ChurchOfJesusChristWikia | Fandom Mormon Pioneers 1846 ship Brooklyn (geni.com) So. Cal. Settlers | California Pioneer Heritage Foundation Brooklyn – Oakland – LocalWiki California Beginnings: 1846 | Religious Studies Center (byu.edu) The Mormon Battalion: Recent discoveries help unravel mysteries after 175 years – LDS Living Samuel Brannan and the Gold Rush Historical Marker (hmdb.org) Samuel Brannan – Wikipedia Latter-day Scoundrel Sam Brannan (historynet.com) Thomas Rhoads | California Pioneer Heritage Foundation Clarksville | California Pioneer Heritage Foundation The San Bernardino Colony: 1851–57 | Religious Studies Center (byu.edu) When Mormons dominated Yerba Buena (sfgate.com) New Hope | California Pioneer Heritage Foundation WT-Guide-to-Mormon-Historical-Sites.pdf (museumoflocalhistory.org) The Mormon Ship Brooklyn Sailing into 1800s San Francisco – The Maritime Heritage Project Mormon Trails (churchofjesuschrist.org) California Living History | Welcome… California, Pioneer Settlements in – The Encyclopedia of Mormonism (byu.edu) Picturing history: Sam Brannan and the Brooklyn – Deseret News The Saga of the Brooklyn: 1845–46 | Religious Studies Center (byu.edu) Samuel Brannan – Mormonism, The Mormon Church, Beliefs, & Religion – MormonWiki viewcontent.cgi (byu.edu) PAGE ONE — S.F.’s Devilish Mormon Finally Gets His Due (sfgate.com) Herald of the Gold Rush: Sam Brannan on JSTOR Samuel “Sam” Brannan (1819-1889) – Find a Grave Memorial https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-dKtGvl-urzU/YLxqHGhBGtI/AAAAAAAAIlA/cXCAAxPk03ACy4EiMKdoXLc5zKpF2H3AACLcBGAsYHQ/s1950/Brannan%2Bcal.jpg Samuel Brannan – The First Millionaire of the West | Econproph [U.S. Economic History]https://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/digital/collection/NCMP1820-1846/id/9649/rec/3https://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/digital/collection/NCMP1820-1846/id/9668/rec/3___________________Welcome to “Mormonism Live,” the ultimate talk show that delves into the messiness of Mormon history and theology while also tackling current events with a live call-in section at the end of every episode. Hosted by two trusted voices in the Mormon community, Radio Free Mormon (RFM) and Bill Reel, this podcast has been taking on the tough issues and exploring the nuances of the LDS faith for years.Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: https://mormonismlive.org/2020/12/mormonism-live/?default_interval=mTake a look at our Merch! https://www.exmoshirts.com/collections/mormondiscussionsSign up for our (mostly) quarterly newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hrnr4POur Platforms:MormonDiscussions.org, MormonismLIVE.orgSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19LxPcTdYUeBhEqUaZNCFmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormonism-live/id1546629841 Connect on Social Media:Private facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1307897462893835Insta: https://www.instagram.com/mormondiscussion/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormondiscussionDiscord (hosted by Mormon Stories): https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjFhttps://twitter.com/MormonDiscContact us: MormonDiscussionsPodcasts@gmail.com#MormonismLive #MormonDiscussions #RadioFreeMormonMormon Discussion Inc is a 501(c)(3) and is in the arena of journalistic work and is part of a free press. Any of the awesome content or the solid opinions expressed, implied or included in Mormon Discussion Inc’s podcast lineup and production are solely those of Mormon Discussion Inc. and/or its program hosts and not those of Intellectual Reserve, Inc. or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Through a series of serendipitous events, a complete transcript of the Second Anointing Ritual has come into my hands. Several other podcasts have talked about the Second Anointing, but here I reveal the details of the actual ordinance itself! I desire all to partake . . .

In this episode of Mormonism LIVE we delve into the original research of this little known episode in Church history involving the Theatre, Temple Endowments, and a Ouija board Message leading to baptisms. RESOURCES:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ARFAX-zs-C36Wgs3GYcCO8kPpis1MnWA/viewhttps://drive.google.com/file/d/1ucVVdrjBDAJwiIns-po2_EXM7d9u_R01/view?pli=1 Welcome to “Mormonism Live,” the ultimate talk show that delves into the messiness of Mormon history and theology while also tackling current events with a live call-in section at the end of every episode. Hosted by two trusted voices in the Mormon community, Radio Free Mormon (RFM) and Bill Reel, this podcast has been taking on the tough issues and exploring the nuances of the LDS faith for years. Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: https://mormonismlive.org/2020/12/mormonism-live/?default_interval=m Take a look at our Merch! https://www.exmoshirts.com/collections/mormondiscussions Sign up for our (mostly) quarterly newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hrnr4P OurPlatforms:MormonDiscussions.org, MormonismLIVE.orgSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19LxPcTdYUeBhEqUaZNCFmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormonism-live/id1546629841Connect on Social Media:Private facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1307897462893835Insta: https://www.instagram.com/mormondiscussion/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormondiscussionDiscord (hosted by Mormon Stories): https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjFhttps://twitter.com/MormonDiscContact us: MormonDiscussionsPodcasts@gmail.com MormonismLive #MormonDiscussions #RadioFreeMormon Mormon Discussion Inc is a 501(c)(3) and is in the arena of journalistic work and is part of a free press. Any of the awesome content or the solid opinions expressed, implied or included in Mormon Discussion Inc’s podcast lineup and production are solely those of Mormon Discussion Inc. and/or its program hosts and not those of Intellectual Reserve, Inc. or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Join us as we explore the intriguing viewpoints of Professor Thomas Wayment and podcaster Rick Bennett, who present perspectives that deviate from past LDS theology regarding the King James Bible (KJV) and the Joseph Smith Translation (JST). We analyze their claims, examining the ways in which their perspectives challenge traditional understandings of these revered texts within the context of Latter-Day Saint belief. Through this exploration, we uncover the complex interplay between scholarship, personal interpretations, and the evolving landscape of Mormon theology.RESOURCES: https://youtu.be/L6kkhSHX4Okhttps://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/king-james-bible-400-years https://rsc.byu.edu/king-james-bible-restoration/latter-day-saint-edition-king-james-bible https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Mormon_and_the_King_James_Bible https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/ensign/1992/08/news-of-the-church/first-presidency-statement-on-the-king-james-version-of-the-bible?lang=eng https://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Joseph_Smith_Translation_of_the_Bible_(JST) https://www.dialoguejournal.com/articles/why-the-king-james-version-from-the-common-to-the-official-bible-of-mormonism/ https://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Bible https://rsc.byu.edu/sites/default/files/pub_content/pdf/38%20The%20King%20James%20Translation%20of%20the%20New%20Testament.pdf https://youtu.be/LyhV-E79ccc?t=158 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyhV-E79ccc&t=410shttps://rsc.byu.edu/book/joseph-smith-translationhttps://rsc.byu.edu/how-new-testament-came-be/adding-taking-away-without-cause-matthew-522https://rsc.byu.edu/joseph-smith-translation/doctrinal-restoration https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V22N02_21.pdf https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V36N01_171.pdf  The clips from this show were used from The Gospel Tangents Podcast Episode titled“Thomas Wayment Responds to Adam Clarke Controversy (1 of 2)” https://gospeltangents.com/2023/05/thomas-wayment-adam-clarke/___________________Welcome to “Mormonism Live,” the ultimate talk show that delves into the messiness of Mormon history and theology while also tackling current events with a live call-in section at the end of every episode. Hosted by two trusted voices in the Mormon community, Radio Free Mormon (RFM) and Bill Reel, this podcast has been taking on the tough issues and exploring the nuances of the LDS faith for years.Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today: https://mormonismlive.org/2020/12/mormonism-live/?default_interval=mTake a look at our Merch! https://www.exmoshirts.com/collections/mormondiscussions Sign up for our (mostly) quarterly newsletter: http://eepurl.com/hrnr4POur Platforms:MormonDiscussions.org, MormonismLIVE.orgSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/19LxPcTdYUeBhEqUaZNCFmApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mormonism-live/id1546629841Connect on Social Media:Private facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1307897462893835Insta: https://www.instagram.com/mormondiscussion/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mormondiscussionDiscord (hosted by Mormon Stories): https://discord.com/invite/kuX5p6yyjFhttps://twitter.com/MormonDiscContact us: MormonDiscussionsPodcasts@gmail.com#MormonismLive #MormonDiscussions #RadioFreeMormonMormon Discussion Inc is a 501(c)(3) and is in the arena of journalistic work and is part of a free press. Any of the awesome content or the solid opinions expressed, implied or included in Mormon Discussion Inc’s podcast lineup and production are solely those of Mormon Discussion Inc. and/or its program hosts and not those of Intellectual Reserve, Inc. or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.___________________

Looks like I have definitely kicked an anthill with my critiques of the conspiracy theory that Joseph Smith did not practice polygamy! Lots of listeners have weighed in on both sides of the issue and I wanted to let them have a say in the debate through a collection of their comments. I also add a few additional items myself, plus a great observation by The Amazing Maven! Thanks everybody for all your great comments!