
Let's Get Surety
If you have ever gone to a school or a park, attended a large sporting event, rode on a bus, driven on a highway, bought imported goods, or sent a wire transfer, you have been protected by the surety product. On the second and fourth Tuesday of each month Kat Shamapande, the host of Let's Get Surety will be joined by fun co-hosts and exciting and engaging guests who will share their stories, insights, and expertise on the world of surety and how it affects our everyday lives! If you are interested in learning more about surety and surety bonds, this is the podcast for you!
Latest episodes

Apr 11, 2023 • 25min
#85 Growing Together: What’s New in ConsensusDocs & Trends in Construction Industry Contracts
On this episode of Let’s Get Surety®, we are joined by Brian Perlberg, Esq., who serves as the Executive Director & Senior Counsel for ConsensusDocs as well as the Senior Counsel for Construction Law & Contracts for the Associated General Contractors (AGC) of America, to talk about ConsenseusDocs, an effort among more than 40 construction industry organizations to develop and disseminate standardized construction document forms. Brian shares information on updates to ConsensusDocs forms, including its general conditions document, along with trends in construction contracts generally. For more information, please visit ConsensusDocs online. Interested individuals may request a sample document. NASBP is among the organizations supporting ConsensusDocs. With special guest: Brian Perlberg, Executive Director & Senior Counsel, ConsensusDocs, and Senior Counsel, AGC Hosted by: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP and Mark McCallum, CEO, NASBP Sponsored by Liberty Mutual Surety!

Mar 28, 2023 • 30min
#84 Reinsurance: Understanding Its Importance to Surety
On this episode, we are joined by Andrew Grey, of Munich Reinsurance America, Inc., to discuss what reinsurance is and why it’s important, especially given the current uncertain period. This podcast episode examines the state of the reinsurance market and conveys the value reinsurance brings to the surety environment. *Disclaimer from Andrew Grey: The views and opinions expressed here may include projections based on assumptions and forecasts and is intended for information purposes only. Nothing that I am about to say is intended to be legal, underwriting, financial or any other type of professional advice, and listeners are encouraged to consult with his or her own counsel or other advisors to verify the accuracy and completeness of any information used and to determine its applicability to the recipient’s particular circumstances. Nothing I am about to say should be construed as a representation or warranty of any kind, whether express or implied, as respects to the accuracy, completeness, or applicability of this information to any recipient’s circumstances. Any descriptions or comments made about coverage are meant to be general in nature and do not include nor are intended to include all the actual terms, benefits and limitations found in an insurance or reinsurance policy, which will form the contract between the insured and insurance company and governs in all cases. Neither me nor my employer assumes any liability whatsoever resulting from reliance upon my comments. With special guests: Andrew Grey, Senior Vice President, Credit Surety and Political Risk Underwriter, Munich Re US-Specialty Lines-Credit & Surety, Munich Reinsurance America, Inc. Hosted by: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP and Mark McCallum, CEO, NASBP Sponsored by Old Republic!

Mar 14, 2023 • 27min
#83 What Are Construction Defect Claims and Mitigating That Risk?
On this episode, we are joined by Joseph Young a Partner and Board-Certified Construction Attorney with the law firm of Smith Currie in the firm’s Fort Lauderdale, Florida, office to discuss mitigating the risk of Construction Defect Claims. We discuss the possible sources and duration of the liability. Additionally, we discuss the types of warranties and how to shift and limit the risk related to construction defect claims to contractors! With special guest: Joseph R. Young, Partner, Smith, Currie & Hancock LLP Hosted by: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP and Mark McCallum, CEO, NASBP Sponsored by Old Republic!

Feb 28, 2023 • 30min
#82 Bonding Cryptocurrency
On this podcast episode, we are joined by Stefan Engelhardt from Brown & Brown Risk Solutions, who shares his insights into bonding cryptocurrency enterprises. Cryptocurrency is opaque to many, but this podcast offers a closer look at what constitutes cryptocurrency and how cryptocurrency transactions interface with money transmitter bonds. Also discussed are what financials and indemnity can look like when bonding cryptocurrency enterprises and what is the current appetite for bonding cryptocurrency enterprises. Be sure to check out the NASBP Virtual Seminar that Stefan presented titled, “Keeping Surety Weird: Exploring Opportunities in Commercial Surety”. With special guest: Stefan Engelhardt, National Surety Practice, Sales & Outreach Director, Brown & Brown Risk Solutions Hosted by: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP and Mark McCallum, CEO, NASBP Sponsored by Old Republic!

Feb 14, 2023 • 21min
#81 Talking With Your Elected Officials About the Importance of the Surety Product!
On this podcast episode, we are joined by Larry LeClair, Director of Government Relations at NASBP, who will offer some helpful tips when meeting with elected officials. We delve into the importance of engaging with elected officials, so they are attuned to the important issues facing their voter constituents and how those issues directly impact their respective state and/or district. Larry also provides a real-life example where an active NASBP volunteer connects with his elected official resulting in a significant policy change for the surety industry. The podcast also highlights the significance of attending NASBP’s Federal Legislative fly-in. Please visit the NASBP Fly-in for more information and subscribe to NASBP’s Focal Point, an electronic bulletin that provides concise, bulleted summaries of key legislative and regulatory developments. With special guest: Larry LeClair, Director, Government Relations, NASBP Hosted by: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP Sponsored by Old Republic!

Jan 24, 2023 • 39min
#80 A Closer Look at the AIA Contract Documents Program, the Oldest Program of Its Kind
On this episode, we are joined by Sara Bour and James Germano from AIA Contract Documents to look behind the curtain at the AIA Contract Documents program. We discuss the history of AIA standardized contract development as well as the different families of related documents that they offer. Additionally, the guests characterize the AIA drafting process, its foundational principles and its objectives, and are told of the structure and composition of the AIA documents committee. Visit the AIA Contract Documents website for more information. With special guests: Sara Bour, Manager and Counsel, AIA Contract Documents and James Germano, Senior Manager and Counsel, AIA Contract Documents Hosted by: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP and Mark McCallum, CEO, NASBP Sponsored by Old Republic Surety!

Jan 10, 2023 • 27min
#79 Demystifying Indemnity Clauses
On this episode, we are joined by Joseph Young a Partner and Board-Certified Construction Attorney with the law firm of Smith Currie in the firm’s Fort Lauderdale, Florida, office to discuss indemnity clauses. We touch on the different types of indemnity clauses as well as the relationship to limitations of liability clauses. Additionally, we discuss the importance of understanding what claims or damages are covered and who is being indemnified typically under most indemnity clauses! With special guest: Joseph R. Young, Partner, Smith, Currie & Hancock LLP Hosted by: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP and Mark McCallum, CEO, NASBP Sponsored by Old Republic!

Dec 27, 2022 • 38min
#78 Talking ConsensusDocs
On this episode of Let’s Get Surety®, we are joined by Brian Perlberg who serves as the Executive Director & Senior Counsel for ConsensusDocs, as well as the Senior Counsel for Construction Law & Contracts for Associated General Contractors (AGC) of America to talk about ConsenseusDocs. Brian shares some information on the background, purpose, and process behind ConsenseusDocs and what makes them unique. We also discuss how ConsenseusDocs has innovated and updated to keep up with the times including the creation of the Materials Price Escalation Clause and resource center. For more information visit ConsensusDocs online and you can link directly to their Price Escalation Resource Center or request a sample, as well. NASBP is a supporting organization of ConsensusDocs. With special guests: Brian Perlberg, Executive Director & Senior Counsel, ConsensusDocs, and Senior Counsel, AGC Hosted by: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP and Mark McCallum, CEO, NASBP

Dec 13, 2022 • 24min
#77 Raising Awareness of US Infrastructure and Transportation Needs With TRIP
On this episode of Let’s Get Surety®, we are joined by David Kearby the Executive Director at TRIP, a national transportation research nonprofit, to discuss TRIP’s work to increase public awareness of US Infrastructure needs. Both 2021 and 2022 were big years for infrastructure and David shares some highlights from the past and gives a sneak peek into what’s coming in 2023. For more information, on TRIP and how you can support their mission you can visit them online at tripnet.org. You can also get more information on NASBP’s Federal Legislative Fly-In scheduled for March 2023 and add your voice to those reinforcing these messages on the Hill! Photo by kimi lee on Unsplash With special guest: David Kearby, CAE, Executive Director, TRIP Hosted by: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP and Mark McCallum, CEO, NASBP

Nov 22, 2022 • 28min
#76 Fuel Your Professional Passion With NASBP’s Educational Opportunities
On this episode of Let’s Get Surety®, NASBP CEO Mark McCallum flips the script and asks Kat Shamapande to step back from her role as host and share information on NASBP’s Professional Development Committee and the countless impressive educational offerings they make available to surety professionals to grow their careers, networks, and surety know-how. During this episode, we discuss the rich and engaging experience offered at NASBP’s Surety School classes including Contract Surety School classes Level I, II, and III and Commercial Surety School classes I and II (launching in 2023), NASBP’s Virtual Seminars, and surety focused online CE courses. Don’t miss this review of the many excellent resources offered by NASBP to help you fuel your passion as a surety professional! With special guest: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP Hosted by: Mark McCallum, CEO, NASBP
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