
Let's Get Surety
If you have ever gone to a school or a park, attended a large sporting event, rode on a bus, driven on a highway, bought imported goods, or sent a wire transfer, you have been protected by the surety product. On the second and fourth Tuesday of each month Kat Shamapande, the host of Let's Get Surety will be joined by fun co-hosts and exciting and engaging guests who will share their stories, insights, and expertise on the world of surety and how it affects our everyday lives! If you are interested in learning more about surety and surety bonds, this is the podcast for you!
Latest episodes

Feb 11, 2025 • 37min
#130 Celebrating 5 Years of 'Let's Get Surety': A Countdown of Our Most Captivating Episodes
Want to revisit some of the most popular moments from Let’s Get Surety®? In this special episode, host Kat Shamapande counts down the top five most downloaded episodes from the past five years! From the significance of relationships in surety to innovations in e-signatures, these episodes have captivated listeners worldwide. Join us for clips, reflections, and a celebration of the evolving landscape of the surety industry. Don't miss this nostalgic trip down memory lane! Counting down from the 5th most downloaded to the most downloaded episode: 5. Episode #59: I’ll Be There for You - The Importance of Relationships in Surety 4. Episode #1: A Look at NASBP's Be Guaranteed to Succeed Campaign and Surety Stories 3. Episode #84: Reinsurance: Understanding Its Importance to Surety* 2. Episode #30: E-Signature in Surety 1. Episode #90: Growing and Fostering Women’s Surety Careers *Disclaimer from Andrew Grey: The views and opinions expressed here may include projections based on assumptions and forecasts and is intended for information purposes only. Nothing that I am about to say is intended to be legal, underwriting, financial or any other type of professional advice, and listeners are encouraged to consult with his or her own counsel or other advisors to verify the accuracy and completeness of any information used and to determine its applicability to the recipient’s particular circumstances. See full disclaimer on the episode page. Hosted by: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP Sponsored by Old Republic!

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Jan 28, 2025 • 28min
#129 GAO Bid Protests: Navigating the Current Trends and Developments
Sarah Carpenter, a Partner at Smith Currie Oles specializing in government contracts and construction law, brings her expertise to the discussion on bid protests at the GAO. She highlights key trends from the GAO's report to Congress, noting a remarkable effectiveness rate of over 50%. The conversation covers the strategic advantages of filing with the GAO versus other courts, the importance of legal representation, and insights on common bid protest categories. Tune in for valuable takeaways on navigating the complexities of federal procurement.

Jan 14, 2025 • 45min
#128 The Corner Office: A Conversation With Liberty Mutual's Tim Mikolajewski
Have you ever wondered what it takes to be a leader in the surety industry? NASBP is excited to continue the series of episodes exploring that question, titled “The Corner Office: Conversations with Surety Leaders.” In this episode, we are joined by Tim Mikolajewski, President at Liberty Mutual Surety. Tim shares his background and tips from his experiences for navigating a career in surety. Additionally, Tim speaks to opportunities and challenges in the surety industry both in the US and international surety markets. With special guest: Tim Mikolajewski, EVP Global Risk Solutions, President, Global Surety, Liberty Mutual Surety Hosted by: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP and Mark McCallum, CEO, NASBP Sponsored by Old Republic!

Dec 24, 2024 • 25min
#127 The Weird World of Commercial Surety: From Nail Salons to Geoduck and So Much More…
In this episode of Let’s Get Surety®, we explore the fascinating and sometimes unusual world of commercial surety bonds with our guests, Amy Pascalide of Markel, and Rosa Martinez-Genzon of Anderson, McPharlin & Conners LLP. Amy and Rosa share their insights and approaches to some of these unusual bonds. They discuss how unique bonds, such as nail salon, child custody, cigarette vending machine, lottery, brewer, and even geoduck bonds, come into play in various situations. Additionally, they highlight how consumer protection and compliance often drive the creation of these "weird bonds." With special guests: Amy Pascalide, Esq., Senior Court Counsel, Markel and Rosa Martinez-Genzon, Partner/Los Angeles, Anderson, McPharlin & Conners LLP Hosted by: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP and Mark McCallum, CEO, NASBP Sponsored by Old Republic!

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Dec 10, 2024 • 38min
#126 Building the Future: AI, Construction and Law
Denis Serkin, a Partner and Chair of International Practice at Peckar & Abramson, dives into the exciting intersection of AI and construction law. He discusses how AI is redefining efficiency in the industry, tackling challenges like labor shortages and the need for regulatory frameworks. Serkin also highlights AI's role in enhancing dispute resolution and the potential for substantial cost savings. With a shift towards data-driven decision-making, he emphasizes the importance of legal guidance in navigating this transformative landscape.

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Nov 26, 2024 • 31min
#125 AI and the Future of Surety: Embracing Tech in Bonding
Kristen Sharpe, a Partner at Crowe LLP specializing in financial services consulting, dives into the transformative role of AI and technology in the surety industry. She discusses the shift towards automation and the necessity for system integration in a post-COVID landscape. Kristen emphasizes how younger professionals are driving tech adoption and the need for high-quality data in AI systems. The conversation also touches on the future demands of the workforce, urging the industry to adapt to rapid changes and streamline processes for enhanced efficiency.

Nov 12, 2024 • 29min
#124 Advocating for Surety: Federal Legislative Fly-In
In this episode of Let’s Get Surety®, we are joined by NASBP's Director, Government Relations (GR) Larry LeClair, NASBP's GR Committee Chair, Alan Starks of Christensen Group Insurance, and GR Committee Vice Chair, Matt Cocco of Smith Brothers Insurance to discuss the Federal Legislative Fly-In, which is co-hosted by NASBP and SFAA. The Legislative Fly-In offers opportunities for surety professionals, as voting constituents, to discuss the importance of the surety product with their elected officials and/or their staff. These interactions not only boost understanding of the surety product but also demonstrate the industry's crucial role in the economy and job creation. We also discuss the many benefits of attending the Fly-In beyond advocating for the surety industry, such as great networking with other surety colleagues, educational programming, and even opportunities for sightseeing! Find out more about the upcoming Federal Legislative Fly-In and register to attend! Also, be sure to check out the Let's Get Surety Episode "Talking With Your Elected Officials About the Importance of the Surety Product!" With special guests: Larry LeClair, Director, Government Relations, NASBP, Alan Starks, Senior Vice President - Surety, Christensen Group Insurance, and Matt Cocco, Surety Risk Advisor, Partner, Smith Brothers Insurance Hosted by: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP and Mark McCallum, CEO, NASBP Sponsored by Old Republic Surety!

Oct 22, 2024 • 25min
#123 2024 and Beyond: Strategic Insights for Business Growth and Sustainability
In this episode of Let’s Get Surety®, we are joined by author, columnist, and keynote speaker Gene Marks to look at some of the challenges and opportunities facing small and medium businesses. Gene shares what some of the smartest and most experienced business leaders are doing to navigate these changes. He touches on the upcoming election, possible tax changes, labor issues, and technology, specifically preparing for and harnessing the power of generative AI. If you want to hear more on tax changes and cybersecurity in the age of AI, check out these past episodes: "Tax Cuts and Jobs Act: Sunset in 2025 and Its Impact on Construction Services" and "Constructing Cybersecurity: Navigating Data Protection in the Construction Industry." With special guest: Gene Marks, CPA, The Marks Group PC Hosted by: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP and Mark McCallum, CEO, NASBP Sponsored by Old Republic Surety!

Oct 8, 2024 • 34min
#122 Unraveling ESOPs and Finding the Goldilocks Zone!
In this episode of Let’s Get Surety®, we explore the world of Employee Stock Ownership Plans (ESOPs) with Jim Tressel and Travis Remick of Liberty Mutual Surety. They discuss the unique aspects of ESOPs, and the factors contributing to their current prominence. Our guests provide insightful considerations for selecting an ESOP consultant, understanding valuation processes, the significant role ESOPs can play in a company's succession strategies, as well as the value of including the surety early in the process. For more information on ESOPs, check out this NASBP Virtual Seminar mentioned during this episode, "Employee Stock Ownership Plans (ESOP): What You Should Know." With special guests: James (Jim) Tressel, Senior Vice President and Chief Underwriting Officer, Liberty Mutual Surety and Travis Remick, Chief Underwriting Officer, Contract Surety, Liberty Mutual Surety Hosted by: Kat Shamapande, Director, Professional Development, NASBP and Mark McCallum, CEO, NASBP Sponsored by Old Republic Surety!

Sep 24, 2024 • 24min
#121 Preparing for CARM: Changes in Canada's Importing Process
Sheila Thompson, President of Rosenberg & Parker of Canada, and Cristina Hagivreta, Surety Manager at Trisura Guarantee Insurance Company, discuss the transformative CARM initiative reshaping Canada's importing process. They emphasize the shift from customs broker bonds to importer bonds and the necessity of navigating the new CARM Client Portal. With the upcoming October 21, 2024 deadline, they highlight the importance of preparation, communication, and compliance for importers, offering insights into updated bond requirements and the resources available for adapting to the changes.