

Nonprofit Leadership Podcast
Dr. Rob Harter
The Nonprofit Leadership Podcast discusses important issues facing nonprofit leaders in our community and features real stories from real leaders about what strategies and practices have made them successful. Enjoy the show!
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May 12, 2025 • 33min
From One Caregiver’s Search to a National Movement: The Story of the National MS Society
Tim Coetzee
In this episode of the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, host Rob Harter welcomes Tim Coetzee, CEO of the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, to discuss the inspiring journey of the organization from a simple newspaper ad in 1945 to a nationwide movement transforming lives today. Tim shares the riveting origin story of the MS Society, which began with Sylvia Lawry’s determined quest to help her brother and has since grown into a global leader in MS research and advocacy.
Tim also delves into the advancements in MS treatment and research, the Society’s critical partnerships, and his own leadership journey shaped by impactful mentorship. His perspective on leading with curiosity over certainty offers a refreshing and actionable insight for nonprofit leaders everywhere.
Key Topics Include:
The compelling origin story of the MS Society and founder Sylvia Lawry’s relentless advocacy
Current advancements in MS treatments and promising new research directions
How the MS Society partners with caregivers, researchers, and other nonprofits for maximum impact
The importance of humility and collaboration in nonprofit leadership
Tim’s mentorship experience with former CEO Joyce Nelson and its influence on his leadership style
Strategies for balancing visionary leadership with coaching and accountability
Embracing a “learn-it-all” mindset over being a “know-it-all” in leadership roles
Mentioned in This Episode:
National MS Society: https://www.nationalmssociety.org
Tim Coetzee on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timcoetzee/
Adam Grant’s book Hidden Potential: https://www.adamgrant.net/book/hidden-potential/
Satya Nadella’s leadership approach: https://news.microsoft.com/exec/satya-nadella/
This Episode is Sponsored By:
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Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
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May 4, 2025 • 31min
How to Unlock the Power of Storytelling for Your Nonprofit
Vanessa Lockshin
In this episode of the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, host Dr. Rob Harter welcomes storytelling expert Vanessa Chase Lockshin, founder of The Storytelling Non-Profit and author of The Storytelling Non-Profit. Vanessa shares her extensive experience helping organizations craft emotionally resonant, authentic stories that drive fundraising success and donor engagement. Whether you’re a seasoned nonprofit professional or just starting out, this conversation is packed with practical tips on how to build your organization’s narrative strategy and share stories in a way that deeply connects with your audience.
Vanessa walks through the core elements of powerful storytelling, how to maintain authenticity, create meaningful donor calls-to-action, and why story planning is crucial to long-term communications success. The episode also covers balancing trauma-informed storytelling with impact, the role of conflict in narratives, and how to adapt stories for various platforms from email to Instagram reels.
Key Topics Include:
What differentiates a true story from a testimonial or summary
How to hook your audience with emotional and engaging storytelling elements
Techniques for building authentic, trauma-informed stories that maintain dignity
Crafting calls-to-action that are clear, tangible, and drive donations
Planning an annual storytelling strategy aligned with your organization’s goals
When and how to reuse stories effectively across platforms and over time
Leveraging short-form video and AI tools for engaging social media storytelling
Mentioned in This Episode:
Vanessa Chase Lockshin’s website: The Storytelling Non-Profit
Vanessa’s book: The Storytelling Non-Profit on Amazon
AI video tool: Arbor – for creating nonprofit-focused short-form videos
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox – Helping you help others with the best donation forms in the business
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
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Apr 27, 2025 • 32min
Leadership as a “Sacred Experience”
Dan Tocchini
In this episode of the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, Dr. Rob Harter sits down with Dan Tocchini, a seasoned nonprofit leader, coach, and founder who describes leadership as a “sacred experience.” With over 25 years of experience leading and coaching, Dan offers a fresh, principle-based approach to transforming teams, navigating conflict, and creating cultures of courageous leadership. Dan also shares powerful personal stories of leadership failure, resilience, and the importance of authenticity in professional growth.
Listeners will gain insights into how to hold difficult conversations, build trust through creative conflict resolution, and align leadership with deeper purpose and service. Dan’s unique framework for tackling team dynamics and his emphasis on transparency offer valuable strategies for nonprofit leaders facing internal and external challenges.
Key Topics Include:
Why leadership is a “sacred experience” and how that shapes leadership impact
How to transform teams without relying on “pixie dust” motivational tactics
A framework for navigating difficult conversations with courage and clarity
The power of identifying complaints as signals of unresolved issues
Strategies for resolving creative conflict and building trust within teams
The importance of aligning intuition with data in decision-making
How nonprofit leaders can shift toxic cultures through transparency and dialogue
Mentioned in This Episode:
Take New Ground: TakeNewGround.com
Free eBook “The Change Imperative” by Dan Tocchini: Download here
Connect with Dan on LinkedIn: Dan Tocchini LinkedIn
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox: Helping you help others with the best donation forms in the business.
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
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Apr 20, 2025 • 33min
How Your Nonprofit Can Build Trust Over Time with Anthony Kennedy Shriver
Anthony Kennedy Shriver
In this episode of the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, Dr. Rob Harter is joined by Anthony Kennedy Shriver, founder, chairman, and CEO of Best Buddies International. Anthony shares the inspiring origin story of Best Buddies, which began as a college initiative and has grown into a global nonprofit that supports individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities (IDD). With an emphasis on job creation, inclusive housing, and meaningful friendships, Anthony discusses how his organization is transforming lives around the world—while also building sustainable, long-term partnerships with major corporations.
Anthony also talks about the enduring legacy of public service within his family, how Best Buddies has successfully collaborated with companies like Jersey Mike’s, Coca-Cola, and TJX, and how the organization has leveraged the support of ambassadors like Tom Brady to raise awareness and drive impact. From launching new initiatives like Eunice’s Buddies and Bumble Buddies to opening inclusive living centers, Anthony gives a candid look at what it takes to run a successful global nonprofit for over 35 years.
Key Topics Include:
The legacy of service in the Kennedy-Shriver family and its impact on Anthony’s mission
The evolution of Best Buddies from a college project to an international nonprofit
Creating jobs for individuals with IDD and forming long-term corporate partnerships
Measuring economic impact by transitioning individuals from government support to tax-paying citizens
The power of celebrity ambassadors and how to create mutually beneficial relationships
Future growth plans, including expansion to 100 countries and launching new programs like Bumble Buddies
The importance of running a nonprofit like a business for long-term sustainability
Mentioned in This Episode:
Best Buddies International: https://www.bestbuddies.org
This Episode is Sponsored By:
Donorbox: Helping you help others with the best donation forms in the business. https://donorbox.org/?ref=nmu4ndh
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
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Apr 13, 2025 • 32min
This NBA Player’s Legacy is Helping People All Over the World
Bob Bush, co-founder of Mutombo Coffee
In this episode of the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, Dr. Rob Harter welcomes Bob Bush, co-founder of Mutombo Coffee. Bob shares the inspiring story behind the social enterprise he helped build with the late NBA legend Dikembe Mutombo. Although Mutombo Coffee is a for-profit company, Bob explains how its mission-driven approach offers powerful lessons for nonprofit leaders. Throughout the conversation, Bob dives into topics like resilience, values-driven leadership, and sustainable growth—all crucial themes for anyone looking to make a positive impact, whether in the nonprofit or for-profit world.
Bob offers insight into how Mutombo Coffee navigated the immense challenges brought by the COVID-19 pandemic and Dikembe’s passing, highlighting strategies nonprofit leaders can apply to build resilience and align mission with operations. His passion for social impact and building long-term strategies shines through, making this episode a must-listen for nonprofit and social enterprise leaders alike.
Key Topics Include:
How long-term thinking can drive sustainable impact for nonprofits and social enterprises
The critical difference between being value-driven vs. values-driven
Innovative strategies Mutombo Coffee used to survive the pandemic and build resilience
Why investing in intellectual, relational, and emotional capital is often more important than financial capital
How to manage risk and uncertainty with strategic preparation and thoughtful leadership
Tools nonprofit leaders can use to align their values, leadership style, and business models
Practical tips for building resilient nonprofit organizations and social enterprises
Mentioned in This Episode:
Mutombo Coffee
Use code LEADERSHIP25 for 25% off your Mutombo Coffee order!
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox — Helping you help others with the best donation forms in the business
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
Subscribe and Share Listen and subscribe to the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast on iTunes, Spotify, or Amazon. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share with other nonprofit leaders!

Apr 7, 2025 • 34min
How This Nonprofit Has Leveraged Hollywood’s Influence to Drive Social Change
Debbie Levin
In this episode of the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, host Rob Harter talks with Debbie Levin, CEO of the Environmental Media Association (EMA). Debbie shares her incredible journey of leading EMA for over 25 years, rebuilding the organization from the ground up, and strategically using the influence of Hollywood to promote sustainability and environmental awareness. From initiating the Prius phenomenon to revolutionizing behind-the-scenes practices in the entertainment industry, Debbie discusses how EMA’s creative, solution-based approach has inspired change on a cultural and corporate level.
Tune in to hear how Debbie’s innovative strategies, deep industry connections, and authentic leadership style have kept EMA at the forefront of environmental advocacy — and what lessons nonprofit leaders can take away to drive change in their own communities.
Key Topics Include:
How Debbie transformed EMA by bridging Hollywood and sustainability
The strategy behind turning the Prius into a status symbol for celebrities
How EMA created the “Emma Green Seal” to promote eco-friendly film and TV production
Why solution-based, nonjudgmental messaging wins supporters across political lines
The role of celebrity influence in shaping public perception on environmental issues
How EMA has built long-lasting partnerships with studios, agencies, and corporations
Leadership principles for staying innovative, relevant, and impactful over decades
Mentioned in This Episode:
Environmental Media Association website: green4ema.org
Follow EMA on social media: @Green4EMA
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox, helping you help others with the best donation forms in the business
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
Listen and subscribe to the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast on iTunes, Spotify, or Amazon. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share with other nonprofit leaders!

Mar 30, 2025 • 31min
Why Passion is Not Always Enough
David Rhode
In this episode of the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, Dr. Rob Harter sits down with David Rhode, author of Passion Isn’t Enough. Together, they dive into the realities of nonprofit leadership and why passion alone can’t sustain an organization. David shares insights from his book on how strategic planning, strong branding, effective fundraising, and financial management are essential for building a thriving nonprofit. If you’re passionate about your mission but looking for practical ways to make a bigger impact, this episode is packed with advice you can implement today.
David also explores how nonprofit leaders can strengthen partnerships, avoid mission drift, and build evidence-based programs. His real-world experience and actionable strategies provide an invaluable guide for anyone who wants to lead a sustainable and impactful nonprofit organization.
Key Topics Include:
Why strategic planning requires both discipline and inclusion
How nonprofit branding starts with your people, not just your logo
The importance of focusing on individual giving for fundraising success
How to create valuable, sustainable partnerships that aren’t just transactional
Why financial controls and cash flow management are critical for stability
How to stay true to your mission and avoid programmatic mission drift
The role of measurement and evaluation in proving your nonprofit’s impact
Mentioned in This Episode:
David Rhode on LinkedIn
Passion Isn’t Enough on Amazon
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox – Helping you help others with the best donation forms in the business.
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at: nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
Subscribe and Share Listen and subscribe to the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast on iTunes, Spotify, or Amazon. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share with other nonprofit leaders!

Mar 24, 2025 • 31min
Leading a Multigenerational Organization: Strategies for Success Across Five Generations
David Robbins
In this episode Rob sits down with David Robbins, President of Cru, a global nonprofit with staff in over 190 countries. David shares his leadership journey and dives into the unique challenges and opportunities of leading a multigenerational organization. With team members spanning five generations, David offers valuable strategies for fostering unity, avoiding mission drift, and empowering younger leaders in a rapidly changing world.
From his time in Italy and New York to leading major nonprofit divisions, David reflects on the personal and professional experiences that have shaped his leadership philosophy. He emphasizes emotional health, vulnerability, and intentional development of younger leaders as critical components to successful nonprofit leadership.
Key Topics Include:
Strategies for leading an organization with five generations on staff
Avoiding mission drift during leadership transitions
The importance of emotional and spiritual health in leadership
Building trust with a global team during a leadership change
Empowering younger generations through stretch challenges
Navigating generational gaps with compassion and shared understanding
Practical rhythms and habits to prevent leadership burnout
Mentioned in This Episode:
Cru: https://www.cru.org
Book: Courage and Calling by Gordon T. Smith
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
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Mar 17, 2025 • 25min
Empowering Students Through Education: How One Nonprofit is Expanding Access for Those Affected by Poverty
Yoon Choi
In this episode, Rob Harter sits down with Yoon Choi, CEO of CollegeSpring, a nonprofit organization committed to providing equitable access to college readiness resources for students impacted by poverty. With over two decades of nonprofit leadership experience, Yoon shares how CollegeSpring is revolutionizing test preparation and college readiness by focusing on foundational skills, resilience, and goal setting.
Yoon also offers a candid look at the evolving role of standardized testing in higher education, the myths surrounding “test-optional” admissions, and the importance of collaboration and partnerships in sustaining nonprofit impact. Her insights are a masterclass for nonprofit leaders navigating the post-COVID landscape, especially those seeking scalable and sustainable solutions.
Key Topics Include:
Why standardized tests still matter in college and career readiness
How CollegeSpring builds student confidence and long-term success
Merging mission with strategy: Yoon’s take on nonprofit partnerships and M&A
The challenge of nonprofit scaling and how to overcome financial and operational barriers
Embedding programs into school systems for lasting impact
The evolving debate over the value of college degrees
Advice for young nonprofit professionals eager to grow as leaders
Mentioned in This Episode:
CollegeSpring: https://collegespring.org
Connect with Yoon Choi on LinkedIn: Yoon Choi LinkedIn
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox: Helping you help others with the best donation forms in the business
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
Subscribe and ShareListen and subscribe to the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast on iTunes, Spotify, or Amazon. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share with other nonprofit leaders!

Mar 9, 2025 • 36min
How to Bring More Innovation to Your Organization
Leah Kral
Innovation and nonprofits don’t always seem like a natural fit—but they should be. In this episode, Rob Harter talks with Leah Kral, author of Innovation for Social Change, about how nonprofit leaders can infuse creativity and innovation into their organizations. Leah shares her insights on overcoming common barriers to innovation, fostering a culture of creativity, and building sustainable systems that support new ideas.
Key topics include:
-Why innovation is often overlooked in the nonprofit sector
-How Leah’s experiences in the Peace Corps shaped her passion for nonprofit strategy
-Practical ways nonprofits can embed innovation into their organizational DNA
-The six principles of social change innovation
-The importance of empowering frontline staff to bring forward new ideas
-Lessons nonprofits can learn from organizations like Pixar and Mayo Clinic
-How to embrace experimentation and learn from failure
Leah also shares inspiring examples of nonprofits that are leading the way in innovation and offers actionable advice for nonprofit leaders looking to step up their creativity.
Mentioned in This Episode:
Leah Kral’s Website – Learn more about Leah and download her book club discussion guide
Innovation for Social Change – Leah Kral’s book on nonprofit innovation
World Reader – Using digital books to promote literacy worldwide
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox – Helping nonprofits maximize their impact with user-friendly donation forms and secure fundraising solutions.
Links to Resources:
*Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
*Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
*Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
*Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
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