

Nonprofit Leadership Podcast
Dr. Rob Harter
The Nonprofit Leadership Podcast discusses important issues facing nonprofit leaders in our community and features real stories from real leaders about what strategies and practices have made them successful. Enjoy the show!
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Jun 29, 2025 • 38min
Are Fractional Leaders the Solution to Your Staffing Issues?
Cindy Wagman
In this episode of the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, Dr. Rob Harter dives into the evolving staffing models within the nonprofit sector, spotlighting the rise of fractional executives. Our guest, Cindy Wagman, a seasoned fundraiser and author of the bestselling book Raise It, joins Rob to unpack what it means to hire a fractional leader and why more nonprofits are exploring this innovative approach. Cindy is also the host of two podcasts, Confessions with Jess and Cindy and Fracture, a private podcast for nonprofit fractional executives.
Cindy shares her journey from traditional consulting to pioneering the fractional executive model for nonprofits, illustrating how this model offers both strategic insight and hands-on implementation. Designed especially for small to mid-sized nonprofits, fractional executives offer expert-level leadership without the cost of a full-time hire. Whether you’re seeking support in fundraising, HR, marketing, or operations, Cindy breaks down the benefits, key indicators of readiness, and steps for integrating a fractional executive into your team.
Key Topics Include:
What a fractional executive is and how it differs from consultants and full-time staff
Ideal nonprofit profiles that benefit most from fractional leadership
Common roles filled by fractional executives, including fundraising, HR, and operations
How to integrate a fractional leader into your nonprofit’s team and culture
Key considerations for those interested in becoming a nonprofit fractional executive
Emerging trends and increasing demand for fractional leadership in the nonprofit sector
Mentioned in This Episode:
Cindy Wagman’s Website & Directory: Nonprofit Fractionals
Cindy’s Private Podcast for Fractional Execs: Fracture
Cindy Wagman on LinkedIn: Connect with Cindy
Book: Raise It by Cindy Wagman
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox – Helping you help others with the best donation forms in the business
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
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Jun 22, 2025 • 28min
How this social impact leader is using data and technology to improve the foster care system
Ben Sand
In this episode of the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, host Rob Harter sits down with Ben Sand, CEO of The Contingent, a nonprofit that’s revolutionizing the foster care system through innovative applications of data and technology. With a heart for foster children and firsthand experience as a foster parent, Ben shares how his organization is tackling the critical shortage of foster homes across the U.S. by leveraging targeted outreach and AI-driven solutions. The Contingent’s signature initiative, Every Child, began in Oregon and has expanded nationally, offering a powerful model of how community engagement and smart tech can solve complex social challenges.
Ben dives deep into how The Contingent uses research, data analysis, and digital marketing to identify and mobilize prospective foster families. Their work in states like Oregon, Arkansas, and Tennessee showcases the importance of culturally relevant messaging and region-specific strategies. If you’re a nonprofit leader wondering how to integrate tech into your mission-driven work, this episode is packed with insights and actionable strategies.
Key Topics Include:
The nationwide foster care crisis and the urgent need for targeted foster family recruitment
The origin and evolution of the Every Child Initiative
How data, AI, and digital marketing are used to find and engage potential foster parents
The importance of cultural context when expanding nonprofit programs nationally
Strategies for scaling nonprofit tech solutions and preparing for the AI revolution
Key leadership principles including adaptive leadership and using the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS)
Advice for nonprofit leaders on how to communicate ROI and innovate at scale
Mentioned in This Episode:
The Contingent
Leadership on the Line Book
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox – The best donation forms and fundraising platform for nonprofits.
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
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Jun 16, 2025 • 34min
What is the nonprofit that Matt Damon co-founded?
Vedika Bhandarkar
Safe water. While most of us have access to it, there are millions across the world who do not. There are approximately 700 million people, all over the world, who do not have access to safe water or sanitation. Rob’s guest, Vedika Bhandarkar, describes a unique and effective strategy for getting more clean water to those in need.
Vedika is the Chief Operating Officer at Water.org. This global nonprofit organization works to bring safe water and sanitation to the world through affordable financing, such as small loans.
Vedika describes how co-founders Matt Damon and Gary White started Water.org. She explains that the organization is focused on helping those in need get access to affordable capital to pay for safe water systems. Vedika describes the negative impact of not having enough safe water, on an individual scale as well as on the global scale. She explains why a lack of financing plays such a crucial role in this issue, and how Water.org has increased their efforts in this area. In the last four years, Water.org has scaled from helping 16 million people worldwide, to now reaching 60 million people. Vedika shares exactly what the organization did to scale so fast, in such a short span of time. Finally, she reminds us of the worldwide benefits if more people had access to safe water, and believes this issue is solvable in our lifetime.
#FromTheArchives
Website:
https://water.org/This Episode is sponsored by:
Donorbox
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Jun 8, 2025 • 32min
Are Relationships at the Core of Your Nonprofit?
Rabbi Joanna Samuels
In this episode of the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, host Dr. Rob Harter speaks with Rabbi Joanna Samuels, CEO and President of the Marlene Meyerson JCC in Manhattan, the largest Jewish Community Center in the United States. Rabbi Samuels discusses her leadership philosophy, rooted deeply in faith and optimism, and how the JCC builds community through programs that span every age and stage of life. She explains why friendship and community are the true “products” her organization delivers and how these relational values drive their mission.
Rabbi Samuels shares how she navigated major challenges, including leading through the COVID-19 pandemic and the profound impact of October 7th on the Jewish community. She offers honest reflections on the resilience required in leadership and how being both kind and bossy—a description offered by her own child—has helped her succeed. This episode is a powerful reminder of the essential human need for connection, belonging, and the role of nonprofits in fulfilling that need.
Key Topics Include:
Why relationships and friendship are central to the mission of the JCC
The impact of faith on leadership decisions and vision
How to be an inclusive and responsive nonprofit for a diverse community
Leadership lessons from navigating COVID-19 and the events of October 7th
The value of listening and decisiveness in nonprofit leadership
Gender and faith identity as strengths in executive leadership
How community centers can remain relevant and essential amid societal crises
Mentioned in This Episode:
Marlene Meyerson JCC Manhattan
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
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Jun 1, 2025 • 31min
How to Become a Savvy Fundraiser
What does it take to become a successful fundraiser in today’s competitive nonprofit environment? In this episode, Haley Cooper, fundraising expert and host of the Lead with Heart podcast, shares key strategies for becoming a savvy fundraiser. Haley discusses the most pressing challenges nonprofit leaders face, such as staff turnover and donor retention, and how to build sustainable fundraising models. She highlights the importance of recurring giving programs and personalized donor communication in boosting engagement.
Rob’s guest, Haley Cooper, explains how different generations approach philanthropy and how nonprofits can tailor their messaging to align with donor values. She emphasizes the need for engaging storytelling to connect emotionally with donors and offers tips on leveraging social media effectively. She stresses that nonprofits should focus on creating compelling, interactive content, as well as the importance of actively engaging with followers by responding to comments, sending personalized messages, and collaborating with influencers.
Throughout the episode, Haley offers practical advice for nonprofit leaders looking to enhance their fundraising strategies and keep donors engaged in the digital age.
Mentioned:
Haley Cooper’s website
Lead with Heart Podcast
Connect with Haley on LinkedIn
This Episode is Sponsored By:
Links to Resources:
Want to work with a leadership and life coach? Check out Rob’s website https://robharter.com/
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If you have any suggestions for the show, email nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
If you would like a sample coaching session, email rob@robharter.com
Summary
In this conversation, Rob Harter and Haley Cooper discuss the current challenges and strategies in nonprofit fundraising. They explore the importance of staff retention, effective communication with donors, the rise of subscription-based giving, and the generational differences in donor engagement. Haley emphasizes the need for nonprofits to leverage social media effectively, build authentic relationships, and adapt their fundraising strategies to meet the evolving landscape. The discussion concludes with resources for nonprofits to enhance their fundraising efforts.
Takeaways
Finding quality staff is a significant challenge for nonprofits.
High turnover rates can lead to increased fundraising costs.
Understanding donor communication preferences is crucial.
Storytelling is a powerful tool for donor engagement.
Subscription-based giving is becoming more popular among younger generations.
Generational differences affect how donors engage with nonprofits.
Nonprofits should focus on one or two social media platforms.
Engagement on social media is more valuable than likes.
Investing in technology can streamline fundraising efforts.
Transparency and accountability are essential for donor trust.
#FromTheArchives

May 25, 2025 • 38min
How to Focus Your Time on Strategically Meaningful Work
Sophie Blondeau
In this episode of the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, Dr. Rob Harter is joined by Sophie Blondeau, Partner/ Chief Strategy Officer of the Sowen Group, to explore how nonprofit leaders can better manage their time and organizational efforts by using strategic data. Sophie shares insights from a groundbreaking research study on data maturity across the social impact sector. With a focus on how nonprofits can transition from being data-aware to becoming insight-driven, she explains why data isn’t just a boardroom buzzword but a critical tool for leadership, fundraising, storytelling, and ultimately, impact.
Sophie and Rob dive into how strategic time management and data utilization can mitigate the overwhelming load many nonprofit leaders face. They discuss key barriers to data adoption, including limited resources and organizational silos, and offer practical strategies to overcome them. Whether you’re a nonprofit executive, program manager, or board member, this episode offers actionable insights to elevate your organization’s effectiveness and impact.
Key Topics Include:
The importance of focusing time on strategically meaningful work to drive nonprofit success
Key findings from Sowen Group’s cross-sector study on data maturity
Why only 29.5% of organizations effectively use data for decision-making
How data maturity influences storytelling, funding, and program outcomes
The significance of bridging the disconnect between executive leadership and frontline staff
Practical steps to enhance data utilization, including a free Data Accelerator tool
Insights on incorporating AI and anticipating future trends in the nonprofit sector
Mentioned in This Episode:
Sowen Group: https://sowen.co
Sowen Group’s Data Accelerator Tool: https://sowen.co/accelerator
Sophie Blondeau on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophieblondeau/
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox: https://donorbox.org/?ref=nmu4ndh
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
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May 19, 2025 • 30min
Why Your Team May Be Having a Buy-in Problem
Dave Garrison
In this episode of the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, host Dr. Rob Harter is joined by leadership coach and author Dave Garrison to explore a growing and critical issue in today’s workplace: the buy-in crisis. Drawing from his latest book, The Buy-In Advantage: Why Employees Stop Caring and How Great Leaders Inspire Everyone to Give Their All, Dave offers practical insights into why staff disengagement is on the rise, and how nonprofit leaders can address it with real, lasting solutions.
With a wealth of experience consulting with both nonprofit and for-profit organizations around the world, Dave breaks down the hidden costs of disengaged employees, why traditional perks are no longer effective, and how to diagnose and resolve buy-in issues within your team. This episode is packed with real-world strategies to transform turnover challenges into opportunities for organizational growth and innovation.
Key Topics Include:
What the buy-in crisis is and why it has become so prevalent, especially post-COVID
Generational shifts and evolving employee expectations that impact engagement
Key warning signs of buy-in problems, such as high turnover and unproductive meetings
The true (often hidden) financial and operational costs of employee disengagement
How to use assessment tools and employee feedback to uncover systemic issues
Actionable strategies for building trust, ownership, and high performance within teams
Real-life examples of leaders who turned disengagement into innovation
Mentioned in This Episode:
Dave Garrison’s book: The Buy-In Advantage
Dave Garrison’s consulting work: Garrison Growth
Connect with Dave Garrison on LinkedIn
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox: Helping you help others with the best donation forms in the business
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
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May 12, 2025 • 33min
From One Caregiver’s Search to a National Movement: The Story of the National MS Society
Tim Coetzee
In this episode of the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, host Rob Harter welcomes Tim Coetzee, CEO of the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, to discuss the inspiring journey of the organization from a simple newspaper ad in 1945 to a nationwide movement transforming lives today. Tim shares the riveting origin story of the MS Society, which began with Sylvia Lawry’s determined quest to help her brother and has since grown into a global leader in MS research and advocacy.
Tim also delves into the advancements in MS treatment and research, the Society’s critical partnerships, and his own leadership journey shaped by impactful mentorship. His perspective on leading with curiosity over certainty offers a refreshing and actionable insight for nonprofit leaders everywhere.
Key Topics Include:
The compelling origin story of the MS Society and founder Sylvia Lawry’s relentless advocacy
Current advancements in MS treatments and promising new research directions
How the MS Society partners with caregivers, researchers, and other nonprofits for maximum impact
The importance of humility and collaboration in nonprofit leadership
Tim’s mentorship experience with former CEO Joyce Nelson and its influence on his leadership style
Strategies for balancing visionary leadership with coaching and accountability
Embracing a “learn-it-all” mindset over being a “know-it-all” in leadership roles
Mentioned in This Episode:
National MS Society: https://www.nationalmssociety.org
Tim Coetzee on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timcoetzee/
Adam Grant’s book Hidden Potential: https://www.adamgrant.net/book/hidden-potential/
Satya Nadella’s leadership approach: https://news.microsoft.com/exec/satya-nadella/
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox – Helping you help others with the best donation forms in the business:
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
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May 4, 2025 • 31min
How to Unlock the Power of Storytelling for Your Nonprofit
Vanessa Lockshin
In this episode of the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, host Dr. Rob Harter welcomes storytelling expert Vanessa Chase Lockshin, founder of The Storytelling Non-Profit and author of The Storytelling Non-Profit. Vanessa shares her extensive experience helping organizations craft emotionally resonant, authentic stories that drive fundraising success and donor engagement. Whether you’re a seasoned nonprofit professional or just starting out, this conversation is packed with practical tips on how to build your organization’s narrative strategy and share stories in a way that deeply connects with your audience.
Vanessa walks through the core elements of powerful storytelling, how to maintain authenticity, create meaningful donor calls-to-action, and why story planning is crucial to long-term communications success. The episode also covers balancing trauma-informed storytelling with impact, the role of conflict in narratives, and how to adapt stories for various platforms from email to Instagram reels.
Key Topics Include:
What differentiates a true story from a testimonial or summary
How to hook your audience with emotional and engaging storytelling elements
Techniques for building authentic, trauma-informed stories that maintain dignity
Crafting calls-to-action that are clear, tangible, and drive donations
Planning an annual storytelling strategy aligned with your organization’s goals
When and how to reuse stories effectively across platforms and over time
Leveraging short-form video and AI tools for engaging social media storytelling
Mentioned in This Episode:
Vanessa Chase Lockshin’s website: The Storytelling Non-Profit
Vanessa’s book: The Storytelling Non-Profit on Amazon
AI video tool: Arbor – for creating nonprofit-focused short-form videos
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox – Helping you help others with the best donation forms in the business
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
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Apr 27, 2025 • 32min
Leadership as a “Sacred Experience”
Dan Tocchini
In this episode of the Nonprofit Leadership Podcast, Dr. Rob Harter sits down with Dan Tocchini, a seasoned nonprofit leader, coach, and founder who describes leadership as a “sacred experience.” With over 25 years of experience leading and coaching, Dan offers a fresh, principle-based approach to transforming teams, navigating conflict, and creating cultures of courageous leadership. Dan also shares powerful personal stories of leadership failure, resilience, and the importance of authenticity in professional growth.
Listeners will gain insights into how to hold difficult conversations, build trust through creative conflict resolution, and align leadership with deeper purpose and service. Dan’s unique framework for tackling team dynamics and his emphasis on transparency offer valuable strategies for nonprofit leaders facing internal and external challenges.
Key Topics Include:
Why leadership is a “sacred experience” and how that shapes leadership impact
How to transform teams without relying on “pixie dust” motivational tactics
A framework for navigating difficult conversations with courage and clarity
The power of identifying complaints as signals of unresolved issues
Strategies for resolving creative conflict and building trust within teams
The importance of aligning intuition with data in decision-making
How nonprofit leaders can shift toxic cultures through transparency and dialogue
Mentioned in This Episode:
Take New Ground: TakeNewGround.com
Free eBook “The Change Imperative” by Dan Tocchini: Download here
Connect with Dan on LinkedIn: Dan Tocchini LinkedIn
This Episode is Sponsored By:
DonorBox: Helping you help others with the best donation forms in the business.
Links to Resources:
Interested in Leadership and Life Coaching? Visit Rob’s website: RobHarter.com
Find us on YouTube: Nonprofit Leadership Podcast YouTube Channel
Suggestions for the show? Email us at nonprofitleadershippodcast@gmail.com
Request a sample coaching session: Email Rob at rob@robharter.com
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