
Identity at the Center
Identity at the Center is a weekly podcast all about identity security in the context of identity and access management (IAM). With decades of real-world IAM experience, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman bring you conversations with news, topics, and guests from the identity management industry. Do you know who has access to what?
Latest episodes

Feb 17, 2025 • 1h 9min
#331 - RSM & IDAC Present - Risk Management & Digital Identity with Matt Franko
Join Jeff and Jim on the Identity at the Center podcast as they speak with Matt Franko, Principal at RSM, about the critical role of identity in cybersecurity. Matt discusses how risk management and digital identity intersect, providing insights into top attack vectors like phishing and weak passwords. They delve into the importance of strong identity practices and share real-world examples of risk scenarios. The episode also touches on the organizational structure of IAM, the significance of user awareness, and the potential of AI and cloud in enhancing security. As a special treat, Matt shares his passion for coaching youth sports, highlighting the values and lessons learned from the field.Chapters00:00 Simplifying Tech for Executives00:46 Top Attack Vectors in Cybersecurity02:07 Podcast Introduction and Big News02:34 CyberArk Acquires Zilla Security04:25 Guest Introduction: Matt Franko07:05 Matt’s Journey into Cybersecurity12:28 Understanding Cyber Strategy14:06 Risk Management in Digital Identity26:29 The Role of Identity in Cybersecurity31:29 Buzzwords and Trends in Cybersecurity36:51 The Risk of Excessive Access38:33 Minimizing the Attack Surface39:37 The Holy Wars of Identity Management40:02 Where Should IAM Reside?41:08 The Importance of Leadership in IAM43:38 Shared Ownership Model in IAM47:52 The Role of the CISO56:05 Coaching and Leadership in Sports01:08:00 Closing Thoughts and FarewellConnect with Matt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-franko-20b6bb7/Learn more about RSM: https://rsmus.com/services/risk-fraud-cybersecurity/cybersecurity-business-vulnerability/identity-and-access.html?cmpid=ola:45559-idac:bb01Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

Feb 10, 2025 • 51min
#330 - Mastering Group Management with Microsoft's David Johnson
In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim dive deep into group management, AI, and organizational governance with David Johnson, Principal PM Architect at Microsoft. Join the conversation as David shares his extensive experience managing Microsoft 365, Entra, and SharePoint permissions, and provides best practices for guest management and labeling sensitive data. David also discusses how these paradigms shift with the introduction of AI-driven tools like Copilot. Tune in to understand the essential steps to secure your IT infrastructure and ensure efficient data management.Chapters00:00 Introduction to AI and Permissions00:29 Reflecting on SharePoint Innovations00:59 Group Membership Management01:49 Podcast Introduction and Baseball Talk04:25 Upcoming Conferences and Discount Codes08:19 Interview with David Johnson12:40 Managing Microsoft 365 Groups24:29 Understanding Guest Invitations in Microsoft Environments25:09 Defining Guests and Their Access26:45 Common Mistakes in Guest Setup28:22 Lifecycle Management for Guests29:53 Delegated Authority and Guest Management32:28 SharePoint and Teams Integration38:50 Future Trends in Identity and Access Management43:29 Reflections on Microsoft Leadership45:16 Personal Insights and Travel Tips49:22 Conclusion and FarewellConnect with David:https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-johnson-a12909196/GMM GitHub repo is available to the public: Https://github.com/microsoftgraph/group-membership-management-tenantLearn more or for installation support: Contact GMM inquiries atGMMinquiries@microsoft.comConference Discounts!Gartner IAM Summit - CodeIDAC425 saves 425€:https://www.gartner.com/en/conferences/emea/identity-access-management-ukEuropean Identity and Cloud Conference 2025 - Use codeidac25mko for 25% off:https://www.kuppingercole.com/events/eic2025?ref=partneridacIdentiverse 2025 - Use code IDV25-IDAC25 for 25% off:https://identiverse.com/Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web athttp://idacpodcast.com

Feb 3, 2025 • 1h 10min
#329 - Discovering Effective User Access Reviews with Stephen Washington
In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim discuss the vital role of user access reviews, device identity, and the evolving landscape of Identity Access Management (IAM) with guest Stephen Washington, Head of IAM at Discover Financial. The conversation delves into regulatory compliance, the use of AI in IAM, and practical steps for improving user access certifications. They also explore the importance of managing service accounts, innovations in IGA, and the role of identity in modern cybersecurity frameworks. The episode wraps up on a lighter note with a chat about fitness challenges like Tough Mudder and personal cheese preferences for grilled cheese sandwiches.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Regulatory Compliance in Financial Services
01:54 Welcome to the Identity at the Center Podcast
02:07 Exploring Device Identity
03:19 The Role of Identity in Modern Security
06:44 Engaging with the IAM Community
10:31 Upcoming Conferences and Events
13:58 Interview with Stephen Washington
25:36 The Importance of User Access Reviews
33:55 Backend Changes in IGA Systems
35:04 The Concept of Identity Data Lake
36:37 AI and Identity Fatigue
37:22 Importance of Identity Hygiene
38:32 Challenges with Access Reviews
39:42 Regulatory Compliance and Policy Changes
41:06 Advice for Practitioners on Access Reviews
45:47 NYDFS and User Access Reviews
47:41 The Role of NIST Cybersecurity Framework
52:35 Training Auditors and Policy-Based Access Control
57:38 Fitness and Stress Relief
01:05:38 Grilled Cheese and Final Thoughts
Connect with Stephen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephen-washington-jr-5569b57/
Gartner IAM Summit - Code IDAC425 saves 425€: https://www.gartner.com/en/conferences/emea/identity-access-management-uk
European Identity and Cloud Conference 2025 - Use code idac25mko for 25% off: https://www.kuppingercole.com/events/eic2025?ref=partneridac
Identiverse 2025 - Use code IDV25-IDAC25 for 25% off: https://identiverse.com/
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

Jan 27, 2025 • 1h 1min
#328 - Continuous Identity with Sean O’Dentity
In this engaging conversation, Sean O'Dell, an identity expert from Disney, shares his insights on optimizing identity and access management. They discuss the importance of data integrity for security, along with innovative frameworks like the Shared Signals Framework and Continuous Access Evaluation Profile. The talk highlights the shift toward event-driven identity management and the complexities of verifying identities in a zero-trust environment. Sean also emphasizes the critical role of accurate, centralized data in enhancing security practices.

Jan 22, 2025 • 59min
#327 - Sponsor Spotlight - Andromeda Security
This episode is sponsored by Andromeda Security. Learn more at https://www.andromedasecurity.com/idac
Join Jeff and Jim on the Identity at the Center podcast as they chat with Ashish Shah, co-founder and Chief Product Officer of Andromeda Security. In this sponsored episode, Ashish dives deep into the importance of solving identity security problems, especially in cloud and SaaS environments. He explains how Andromeda's AI-powered platform focuses on both human and non-human identities, offering use case-driven solutions for security maturity. The discussion covers challenges, AI and machine learning applications, and practical insights into permissions management, risk scoring, just-in-time access, and more. Stay tuned for interesting takes on identity security and some fun recommendations for your reading/listening list.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Identity as a Data Problem
00:41 Overview of Andromeda's Capabilities
01:27 Welcome to the Identity at the Center Podcast
02:03 Meet Ashish Shah, Co-Founder of Andromeda
02:37 The Genesis of Andromeda
03:33 Addressing Identity Security Challenges
05:29 Andromeda's Approach to Identity Security
09:44 Measuring Success with Andromeda
12:21 Andromeda's Market Position and Ideal Customers
18:35 The Rise of Non-Human Identities
28:42 Understanding Identity and Accounts in AWS
28:54 The Concept of Incarnations in Identity Management
29:42 Human and Non-Human Identities
32:13 Challenges in Authorization and Access Control
32:44 Implementing Zero Trust and Least Privilege
35:10 Role of AI and Machine Learning in Identity Management
36:21 Risk Scoring and Behavioral Analysis
39:04 Customer Data and Model Training
41:08 Explainability and Security of AI Models
46:14 Customer Influence on Model Tuning
49:03 Andromeda's Offer and Final Thoughts
51:34 Book Recommendations and Closing Remarks
Connect with Ashish: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashishbshah/
Learn more about Andromeda: https://www.andromedasecurity.com/idac
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and watch at https://www.youtube.com/@idacpodcast
Keywords:
Identity security, IAM, cybersecurity, artificial intelligence, AI, machine learning, ML, non-human identities, NHI, just-in-time access, JIT, IGA, privileged access management, PAM, identity threat detection and response, ITDR, cloud security, SaaS security, Andromeda Security, Ashish Shah, IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jim McDonald, Jeff Steadman

Jan 20, 2025 • 1h 5min
#326 - IAM in 2025 with Martin Kuppinger
Martin Kuppinger, Founder and Principal Analyst at KuppingerCole, dives deep into the future of identity management. He discusses the integration of AI in identity verification, stressing the need for reliable, decentralized solutions. The conversation highlights emerging trends like policy-based access and the importance of reusable identities. Martin also introduces a chatbot designed to enhance SaaS models while pondering the evolving European identity landscape. Plus, listeners can look forward to travel tips for Berlin and insights on the upcoming European Identity and Cloud Conference.

Jan 13, 2025 • 1h 9min
#325 - Theorycrafting Modern Identity Architecture with Ian Glazer
Welcome to the Identity at the Center podcast! In this episode, hosts Jeff and Jim dive deep into modern identity architecture with guest Ian Glazer. They discuss topics such as the importance of policy, data orchestration, and the evolving landscape of identity and access management (IAM). Ian shares his thoughts on the future of IAM, the integration of various data sources, the role of events in IAM, and the potential for real-time identity solutions. They also touch on upcoming conferences, the European Identity and Cloud Conference 2025, and the significance of engaging with the identity community. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion on the advancements and future directions of digital identity!
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:11 Upcoming Plans and Challenges
01:03 Guest Invitation and Podcast Dynamics
03:31 Conference Announcements and Discounts
06:05 Welcoming the Guest: Ian Glazer
06:46 Fido Feud and Conference Experiences
16:29 Identity Market Trends and Innovations
19:19 Modern Identity Architectures
33:51 Identity First Security: A New Approach
34:50 Unified Data Tiers: Breaking Down Silos
36:14 Modern IAM: Opportunities and Challenges
37:02 Ephemeral Access and Zero Standing Privilege
39:18 Understanding Identity Data
41:30 Workforce Identity Data Platforms
47:14 Orchestration and Execution in IAM
51:09 Real-Time Event-Based Identity Systems
54:45 Future Directions and Community Engagement
59:03 Teaching and Sharing Knowledge
01:05:33 Closing Thoughts and Recommendations
Connect with Ian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iglazer/
Notional architecture for modern IAM: Part 3 of 4 (blog): https://weaveidentity.com/blog/notional-architecture-for-modern-iam/
2025: The year we free our IAM data: https://weaveidentity.com/blog/2025-the-year-we-free-our-iam-data/
Learn more about Weave Identity: https://weaveidentity.com/
Digital Identity Advancement Foundation: https://digitalidadvancement.org/
Avoid the Noid! - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Noid
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com
Keywords:
IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, Ian Glazer, Weave Identity, Identity and Access Management, IAM, Modern Identity Architectures, Modern IAM, Data Tier, Events, Orchestration, Zero Trust, ZTNA, Shared Signals Framework, EIC, Gartner, Black Hat, RSA, Identibeer, Data Lake, OIDs, IANS

Jan 6, 2025 • 1h 19min
#324 - RSM & IDAC Present - The Intersection of Cybersecurity and Digital Identity with Tauseef Ghazi
Tauseef Ghazi, the Security and Privacy practice lead at RSM, unpacks the intricate dance between cybersecurity and digital identity. He highlights the vital role of apprenticeship in addressing the skills gap, emphasizing mentorship over short-term roles. Ghazi explores the impact of AI and blockchain on identity management, and the pressing need for resilience in cloud environments. With insights on the zero trust framework and the importance of continuous skill investment, he inspires listeners to balance personal growth with professional challenges.

Dec 16, 2024 • 1h 3min
#323 - Identity Security with Silverfort’s Hed Kovetz
In this special episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim sit down with Hed Kovetz, CEO and co-founder of Silverfort, at the Gartner IAM Summit in Texas. Hed shares insights on the evolution of identity security, the interplay between legacy and modern IT systems, and the importance of securing non-human identities. They also delve into the role of AI in cybersecurity and the challenge of maintaining innovation in a growing company. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation about the future of identity security and the booming impact of AI.
00:00 The Importance of Identity in Modern Security
01:23 Welcome to the Identity of the Center Podcast
01:44 Live from the Gartner IAM Summit
03:08 Interview with Hed Kovetz, CEO of Silverfort
03:48 Silverfort's Recent Achievements and Innovations
05:15 Challenges and Insights in Identity Security
08:00 The Evolution of Identity Security
21:20 Securing Legacy and Modern IT Systems
29:52 The Rise of Service Account Protection
30:31 Challenges in Securing Non-Human Identities
31:02 Real-World Examples and Governance Issues
31:40 Strategies for Securing Non-Human Identities
32:56 The Evolution of Identity Security
45:49 The Role of AI in Identity Security
50:33 The Future of Identity Security
53:44 Personal Insights and Reflections
01:01:25 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Connect with Hed: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hed-kovetz-910ba5b9/
Learn more about Silverfort: https://www.silverfort.com/
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com

Dec 9, 2024 • 1h 10min
#322 - Identity Security Posture Management with Saviynt’s Henrique Teixeira
In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jeff and Jim dive into the concept of Identity Security Posture Management (ISPM) with Henrique Teixeira, Senior Vice President of Strategy at Saviynt and former Gartner analyst. Henrique explains ISPM as an Apple Watch for your identity program, focusing on preventive measures before an attack occurs. The discussion also covers the upcoming Gartner IAM Summit, AI's impact on identity management, and the anticipated trends for 2025. Additionally, they explore the differences between AI copilot, agent, and bot, and the future of non-human identity management. Henrique shares insights on balancing ITSM front ends with IGA systems and emphasizes the importance of continuous security investment. Tune in for a comprehensive look at ISPM, AI, and the evolving identity security landscape.
Chapters
00:00 Welcome to the Podcast
01:47 Gartner IAM Summit Preview
04:48 Guest Introduction: Henrique Teixeira
05:28 Henrique's Career Transition
10:12 Conference Experiences and Insights
14:10 Understanding ISPM and ITDR
29:16 AI in Identity Management
35:58 Debating the Future of AI in IGA Systems
37:09 Evolution of Access Request Systems
37:59 The Rise of ChatOps in Identity Management
40:26 Multi-Channel Identity and Access Management
45:54 Influencers and Inspirations in Identity Strategy
49:06 Reflecting on 2024: Trends and Predictions
54:31 Looking Ahead: Identity and AI in 2025
01:02:50 Boxing Talk: Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul
01:08:17 Wrapping Up: Final Thoughts and Farewells
Connect with Henrique: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bernardes
Learn more about Saviynt: https://saviynt.com/
Prevention + ITDR Venn Diagram - https://www.linkedin.com/posts/rezasoltani_identitysecurity-ispm-itdr-activity-7203522819014500353-8Kv_/
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com
Keywords:
Identity Security, IAM, Digital Identity, AI, Artificial Intelligence, ISPM, ITDR, IGA, Gartner IAM Summit, Cybersecurity, Cloud Security, Machine Identity, Non-Human Identity, Podcast, Interview, Saviynt, Henrique Teixeira, Jim McDonald, Jeff Steadman