
Identity at the Center
Identity at the Center is a weekly podcast all about identity security in the context of identity and access management (IAM). With decades of real-world IAM experience, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman bring you conversations with news, topics, and guests from the identity management industry. Do you know who has access to what?
Latest episodes

Sep 25, 2023 • 54min
#232 - Just in Time Access with John Morton of Britive
In this episode of Identity at the Center, Jim and Jeff talk with John Morton, Field CTO and Cloud Solutions Engineering Leader at Britive about Just in Time (JIT) Access. The hosts ask Morton about his work at Britive and how JIT access works, including its relationship to zero standing privileges. The conversation also covers what business problems JIT access solves, whether it's just for cloud or on-prem, and how it might help organizations that use Snowflake or in DevOps automation.
Connect with John on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnmortonnotromnhoj/.
Learn more about Britive: https://www.britive.com/
Identity Week America - use code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm
Use the code OKTNIDAC30 for 30% off your Oktane 2023 registration at https://www.okta.com/oktane/
Authenticate Conference - use code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

Sep 18, 2023 • 1h 4min
#231 - Authorization 2.0 with Rich Dandliker of Veza
In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Jim and Jeff speak with Rich Dandliker, Chief Strategist with Veza, about the topic of Authorization. They cover several questions, including the rise of authorization in the past year, the importance of the human element in being successful with authorization, and the impact that AI is having on the authorization space. Additionally, they discuss the early XACML standards which have shaped how authorization is conducted today and some use cases where an authorization tool solved a real-world business problem.
Connect with Rich: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rich-dandliker-591381/
Learn more about Veza: https://www.veza.com/
Identity Week America - use code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm
Use the code OKTNIDAC30 for 30% off your Oktane 2023 registration at https://www.okta.com/oktane/
Authenticate Conference - use code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

Sep 11, 2023 • 58min
#230 - Quantum IAM with Teresa Wu and Olivier Nora of Idemia
In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman discuss quantum computing and its impact on identity and access management (IAM) with guests from Idemia, Teresa Wu and Olivier Nora. The main topics covered in the episode are how Wu and Nora got into the field of identity, and what is their role at Idemia, an explanation of quantum computing and its differences from standard computing, the term "Y2Q" and what it means for the future of computing, the problems quantum computing poses for IAM and which roles or sub-disciplines should be most concerned, and how someone in the IAM field can prepare for quantum, including whether new algorithms or IAM technologies will be needed. The episode ends on a lighter note with Wu and Nora sharing their favorite meals to prepare and the most underrated spice.
Connect with Teresa: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teresawu/
Connect with Olivier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliviernora/
Learn more about Idemia: https://www.idemia.com/
Cybersecurity Midwest Summit 2023: https://whova.com/web/2sOogdl3cIdo76LNOJrtUFRNXxvO%40kakipZlQHyewIA%3D/
Identity Week America - use code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm
Use the code OKTNIDAC30 for 30% off your Oktane 2023 registration at https://www.okta.com/octane/
Authenticate Conference - use code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

Sep 4, 2023 • 1h 8min
#229 - Cryptography 101 for Identity Practitioners with Dr. Andrew Stern of Revive Labs
In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, hosts Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman invite Dr. Andrew Stern, Founder & CEO at Revive Labs, to give a primer on cryptography. The conversation focuses on encryption and security, covering topics such as symmetric and asymmetric encryption, levels of encryption, hashing, and certificates. Dr. Stern also shares his background and experience, including his work as an Activate DARPA Fellow and his founding of Revive Labs. The episode concludes with a discussion on how encryption factors into quantum computing.
Connect with Andrew: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewcstern/
Learn more about Revive Labs: https://revivelabs.io
Cybersecurity Midwest Summit 2023: https://whova.com/web/2sOogdl3cIdo76LNOJrtUFRNXxvO%40kakipZlQHyewIA%3D/
Identity Week America - use code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm
Use the code OKTNIDAC30 for 30% off your Oktane 2023 registration at https://www.okta.com/octane/
Authenticate Conference - use code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

Aug 28, 2023 • 1h 9min
#228 - How IAM Standard Sausage Is Made with Heather Flanagan of Spherical Cow Consulting
In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, hosts Jim and Jeff chat with Heather Flanagan, Principal at Spherical Cow Consulting, about the process of standards development in IAM. They cover her background in IAM, her work with IDPro, and the momentum the organization has seen in the past few years. Heather shares insights into the development of CIDPro, the Body of Knowledge, and other projects taken on by IDPro. They also discuss how interested contributors can get started, what makes a good standard, and how to get support from management. The episode ends on a lighter note with a Scotch whisky tutorial & tasting. Check out the links below and for more information about the Cybersecurity Midwest Summit 2023, Identity Week America, Oktane 2023, and the Authenticate Conference.
Connect with Heather: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hlflanagan/
Learn more about Spherical Cow: https://sphericalcowconsulting.com/
Spherical Cow?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_cow
Government-issued Digital Credentials and Privacy: https://idpro.org/government-issued-digital-credentials-and-privacy/
IDPro Body of Knowledge: https://bok.idpro.org/
IDPro GitHub: https://github.com/idpros
Find out more about the Cybersecurity Midwest Summit 2023 at https://whova.com/web/2sOogdl3cIdo76LNOJrtUFRNXxvO%40kakipZlQHyewIA%3D/
Use the code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass for Identity Week America at https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm
Use the code OKTNIDAC30 for 30% off your Oktane 2023 registration at https://www.okta.com/oktane/
Use the code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee for the Authenticate Conference at https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

Aug 21, 2023 • 1h 5min
#227 - Behind the Golden Arches of IAM with Ebony Love of McDonalds
In this episode, Jim and Jeff interview Ebony Love, Director of Cybersecurity Deployments with McDonald's. Ebony talks about a big project she did at McDonald's and how Identity is done on behalf of the business. She discusses the challenges of identity management for a large, decentralized network with legacy technology and how to solve these issues with management support. Ebony also shares her experience with management who may not be familiar with Identity and if they see the importance of it. Additionally, Ebony explains the role of onboarding in retaining talent and where McDonald's is in the journey to improving onboarding.
Connect with Ebony Love on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/ebonylove/.
Find out more about the Cybersecurity Midwest Summit 2023 at https://whova.com/web/2sOogdl3cIdo76LNOJrtUFRNXxvO%40kakipZlQHyewIA%3D/
Use the code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass for Identity Week America at https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm
Use the code OKTNIDAC30 for 30% off your Oktane 2023 registration at https://www.okta.com/oktane/
Use the code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee for the Authenticate Conference at https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter/X/Whatever.

Aug 14, 2023 • 57min
#226 - Board Conversations with Baber Amin of Veridium
In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Baber Amin, Chief Product and Operating Officer at Veridium, discusses communicating IAM to the board. The main topics covered include how to approach the conversation about identity with the board or other senior leadership at an organization, what kind of questions about identity the board asks, how to get buy-in from senior leaders to invest in identity people, process, and technology, and where AI is taking the identity space. The episode ends on a lighter note with Amin discussing his recent completion of an Ironman 70.3 in Oregon and his least favorite candy.
Connect with Baber: https://www.linkedin.com/in/baberamin/
Learn more about Veridium: https://veridiumid.com/
What Directors Think 2023: https://www.diligentinstitute.com/research/what-directors-think-2023/
Cybersecurity Midwest Summit 2023: https://whova.com/web/2sOogdl3cIdo76LNOJrtUFRNXxvO%40kakipZlQHyewIA%3D/
Identity Week America - use code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm
Authenticate Conference - use code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

Aug 7, 2023 • 59min
#225 - Authenticate 2023 Preview with Andrew Shikiar of the FIDO Alliance
In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Jim and Jeff welcome Andrew Shikiar, Executive Director & CMO of FIDO Alliance, for his sixth appearance on the show. They discuss the upcoming Authenticate 2023 conference, including its key themes, tracks, and speakers. Andrew also talks about the progress made by FIDO over the last year, the impact of FIDO's UX guidelines, and what's next for FIDO and the FIDO Alliance. The episode ends on a lighter note with a question about playing golf against an actor or musician.
Connect with Andrew: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewshikiar/
Learn more about the FIDO Alliance: https://fidoalliance.org/
FIDO UX Guidelines: https://fidoalliance.org/ux-guidelines/
Cybersecurity Midwest Summit 2023: https://whova.com/web/2sOogdl3cIdo76LNOJrtUFRNXxvO%40kakipZlQHyewIA%3D/
Identity Week America - use code IDAC30 for a 30% discount on your conference pass: https://www.terrapinn.com/exhibition/identity-week-america/index.stm
Authenticate Conference - use code IDAC15PODCAST for a 15% discount on your registration fee: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

Jul 31, 2023 • 1h 6min
#224 - Exploring the Latest Trends and Developments in IAM with David Lee, The Identity Jedi
In this episode of the Identity at the Center Podcast, Jim and Jeff talk with David Lee, the Identity Jedi, about the latest trends and developments in IAM. They discuss how David got into IAM, The Identity Jedi newsletter, and his recently published book. They also pick his brain about a range of topics, including ITDR, Microsoft's work with Entra, Thoma Bravo's collection of Digital Identity companies, and the hottest technologies in the IAM space. The episode ends on a lighter note, with a discussion about the color of David's Identity Jedi lightsaber. Tune in to find out which color he chooses!
Connect with David: https://www.linkedin.com/in/identityjedi/
Check out David’s book “The Only One In The Room: The Unwritten Rules of Being Black In Tech”: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/the-only-one-in-the-room-david-lee/1143684588?ean=9781312534155
The Identity Jedi: https://www.theidentityjedi.com/
Authenticate Conference: Use code IDAC15PODCAST for 15% off your registration fees.
Learn more about the Authenticate conference: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.

Jul 24, 2023 • 1h 17min
#223 - CIAM with Cassio Sampaio of Okta
In this episode of the Identity at the Center podcast, Jim and Jeff talk to Cassio Sampaio, who runs product for Customer Identity at Okta. They discuss CIAM, which stands for Customer Identity and Access Management, and its importance in today's digital landscape. They cover topics such as the difference between CIAM and traditional employee-focused identity and access management, self-service, common challenges businesses face when implementing a CIAM capability, the role of artificial intelligence and machine learning in CIAM, and the future of CIAM. Cassio also gives advice to businesses that are just starting to explore implementing a CIAM solution. The episode ends on a lighter note with all three recommending non-IT books for listeners to check out to help them with their IAM or professional lives.
Connect with Cassio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/csampaio/
Learn more about Okta: https://www.okta.com/
Okta Secure Sign-In Trends Report: https://www.okta.com/blog/2023/06/secure-sign-in-trends-report/
Introducing Auth0 CRAPTCHAs!: https://auth0.com/blog/introducing-auth0-craptchas/
The Password Game: https://neal.fun/password-game/
Thinking Fast and Slow (book recommendation): https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0374533555
Outliers: The Story of Success (book recommendation): https://www.amazon.com/Outliers-Story-Success-Malcolm-Gladwell/dp/0316017930
One Minute Manager (book recommendation): https://www.amazon.com/Minute-Manager-Kenneth-Blanchard-Ph-D/dp/074350917X
Authenticate Conference: Use code IDAC15PODCAST for 15% off your registration fees.
Learn more about the Authenticate conference: https://authenticatecon.com/event/authenticate-2023/
Connect with us on LinkedIn:
Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/
Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/
Visit the show on the web at idacpodcast.com and follow @IDACPodcast on Twitter.