

Justified Posteriors
Seth Benzell and Andrey Fradkin
Explorations into the economics of AI and innovation. Seth Benzell and Andrey Fradkin discuss academic papers and essays at the intersection of economics and technology. Sponsored by the Digital Business Institute at Boston University. empiricrafting.substack.com
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Apr 7, 2025 • 1h 9min
How much should we invest in AI safety?
The discussion dives into the crucial question of balancing the massive economic potential of AI against the existential risks it poses. With insights from economist Chad Jones, they outline models suggesting society might rationally accept significant extinction risks for AI-driven prosperity. The conversation highlights the importance of investing a substantial portion of global GDP in AI safety, potentially ranging from 1.8% to 15.8%. Philosophical tensions emerge around individual vs. collective risk, shaping how we navigate our technological future.

Mar 24, 2025 • 44min
Can AI make better decisions than an ER doctor?
Dive into the intersection of economics and healthcare with our latest podcast episode. How much can AI systems enhance high-stakes medical decision-making? In this episode, we explore the implications of a research paper titled “Diagnosing Physician Error: A Machine Learning Approach to Low Value Health Care” by Sendhil Mullainathan and Ziad Obermeyer.The paper argues that physicians often make predictable and costly errors in deciding who to test for heart attacks. The authors claim that incorporating machine learning could significantly improve the efficiency and outcome of such tests, reducing the cost per life year saved while maintaining or improving standards of care. We discuss the challenges and limitations of implementing AI in healthcare, the potential biases doctors may have, and the broader systemic issues in medical technology adoption. Sponsored by the Digital Business Institute at Boston University’s Questrom School of Business. Big thanks to Ching-Ting “Karina” Yang for her help editing the episode.-🔗Links to the paper for this episode’s discussion:(Full Paper) Diagnosing Physician Error-🗞️Subscribe for upcoming episodes, post-podcast notes, and Andrey’s posts:💻 Follow us on Twitter:@AndreyFradkin https://x.com/andreyfradkin?lang=en@SBenzell https://x.com/sbenzell?lang=en This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit empiricrafting.substack.com

Mar 10, 2025 • 60min
If the Robots Are Coming, Why Aren't Interest Rates Higher?
The discussion revolves around the puzzling low interest rates in the face of imminent artificial general intelligence (AGI). It delves into market skepticism towards rapid technological shifts and their economic implications. The hosts debate the relationship between AGI, investment opportunities, and growth rates, highlighting differing opinions on future economic dynamics. Additional insights into historical interest rates and the challenges posed by income inequality and existential risks create a thought-provoking examination of our financial landscape.

Feb 24, 2025 • 54min
High Prices, Higher Welfare? The Auto Industry as a Case Study
Does the U.S. auto industry prioritize consumers or corporate profits? In this episode of Justified Posteriors, hosts Seth Benzell and Andrey Fradkin explore the evidence behind this question through the lens of the research paper “The Evolution of Market Power and the U.S. Automobile Industry” by Paul Grieco, Charles Murry, and Ali Yurukoglu.Join them as they unpack trends in car prices, market concentration, and consumer surplus, critique the methodology, and consider how competition and innovation shape the auto industry. Could a different competitive structure have driven even greater innovation? Tune in to find out!Sponsored by the Digital Business Institute at Boston University’s Questrom School of Business. Big thanks to Ching-Ting “Karina” Yang for her help editing the episode.-🔗Link to the paper for this episode’s discussion:(Full Paper) The Evolution of Market Power in the US Automobile IndustryFigures for reference:🗞️Subscribe for upcoming episodes, post-podcast notes, and Andrey’s posts: This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit empiricrafting.substack.com

Feb 10, 2025 • 59min
Scaling Laws in AI
The discussion unpacks whether simply scaling AI models leads to transformative results. It explores the predictable outcomes of increasing compute, data, and parameters, but questions their ultimate effectiveness. The conversation also delves into the complexities of data quality and model performance, emphasizing the importance of innovative solutions over mere resource addition. Real-world applications like translation and software development reveal AI's potential and economic implications. The dynamic between AI capabilities and human performance is examined, uncovering both challenges and opportunities.

Jan 26, 2025 • 37min
Is Social Media a Trap?
Is social media really a trap? Hosts delve into fascinating research on college students' experiences with TikTok and Instagram, revealing a paradox where users crave connection yet feel trapped by the platforms. The discussion touches on the fear of missing out (FOMO) and how it contributes to anxiety, while also critiquing the superficial nature of online interactions. Insights on competition for attention and the mental health challenges faced by users highlight the complexities of engagement and societal expectations surrounding social media.

Jan 11, 2025 • 45min
Beyond Task Replacement
In this episode, we discuss Artificial Intelligence Technologies and Aggregate Growth Prospects by Timothy Bresnahan.* We contrast Tim Bresnahan's paper on AI's impact on economic growth, with Daron Acemoglu's task-replacement focused approach from the previous episode.* Bresnahan argues that AI's main economic benefits will come through:* Reorganizing organizations and tasks* Capital deepening (improving existing machine capabilities)* Creating new products and services rather than simply replacing human jobs* We discuss examples from big tech companies:* Amazon's product recommendations* Google's search capabilities* Voice assistants like Alexa These demonstrate how AI creates value through new capabilities rather than just replacing existing human tasks.* Other parts of Bresnahan's analysis:* AI works best with "low stakes" decisions where false positives aren't costly* Modularization of tasks is important for AI adoption* Capital deepening through continuous improvement of existing AI systems* Prior Beliefs:* Andrey: 20% task replacement, 80% other effects* Seth: Initially 30-50% task replacement, moved closer to Bresnahan's view after discussion* Other considerations raised:* Many AI benefits may not be captured in GDP measurements* The distinction between task replacement and reorganization can be unclear* We conclude by considering more transformative AI scenarios, questioning whether the task-based model remains useful for analyzing more advanced AI capabilities. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit empiricrafting.substack.com

Dec 21, 2024 • 53min
The Simple Macroeconomics of AI
Will AI's impact be as modest as predicted, or could it exceed expectations in reshaping economic productivity? In this episode, hosts Seth Benzell and Andrey Fradkin discuss the paper “The Simple Macroeconomics of AI” by Daron Acemoglu, an economist and an institute professor at MIT.Additional notes from friend of the podcast Daniel Rock of Wharton, coauthor of “GPTs are GPTs: An Early Look at the Labor Market Impact Potential of Large Language Models” one of the papers cited in the show, and a main data source for Acemoglu’s paper: (1) Acemoglu does not use the paper’s ‘main’ estimates of the feasibility of using GPTs to dramatically increase productivity in tasks, rather it uses more ‘experimental’ estimates from the appendix about which tasks are fully automatable. These numbers are smaller than the main texts’ which is one reason for Acemoglu’s small productivity impact estimates (2) For a paper that uses the main estimates from his paper, Daniel recommends the OECD working paper “Miracle or Myth?"🔗Links to the paper for this episode’s discussion: https://economics.mit.edu/sites/default/files/2024-05/The%20Simple%20Macroeconomics%20of%20AI.pdf-Seth and Andrey debate AI's potential effect on economic growth, with reference to Acemoglu's prediction that AI will contribute less than 1 percentage point to total factor productivity (TFP) over the next decade.-🗞️Subscribe for upcoming episodes, post-podcast notes, and Andrey’s substack:💻Follow us on Twitter:@AndreyFradkin https://x.com/andreyfradkin?lang=en@SBenzell https://x.com/sbenzell?lang=en This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit empiricrafting.substack.com

Dec 7, 2024 • 1h 3min
Situational Awareness
How close are we to AGI, and what might its impact be on the global stage? In this episode, hosts Seth Benzell and Andrey Fradkin tackle the high-stakes world of artificial intelligence, focusing on the transformative potential of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI). The conversation is based on Leopold Aschenbrenner’s essay 'Situational Awareness', which argues that AI's development follows a predictable scaling law that allow for reliable projections about when AGI will emerge. The hosts also discuss Leopold’s thoughts on the geopolitical implications of AGI, including the influence of AI on military and social conflicts.Sponsored by the Digital Business Institute at Boston University’s Questrom School of Business. Big thanks to Ching-Ting “Karina” Yang for her help editing the episode.-🔗 Links to the paper for this episode’s discussion: https://situational-awareness.ai/🗞️ Subscribe for upcoming episodes, post-podcast notes, and Andrey’s posts:💻 Follow us on Twitter:@AndreyFradkin https://x.com/andreyfradkin@SBenzell https://x.com/sbenzell This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit empiricrafting.substack.com