

FULL COMP: The Voice of the Restaurant Industry Revolution
Josh Kopel
What if I told you that the difference between struggling and thriving in the restaurant industry is just one conversation away?
I’m Josh Kopel, a Michelin-awarded restaurateur who’s spent decades building blockbuster brands across every tier of dining. I know the challenges you’re facing—because I’ve been there. That’s why I created FULL COMP.
Every week, I go one-on-one with the smartest minds in the game: restaurateurs, chefs, and industry insiders who’ve cracked the code. Together, we unpack their biggest wins, hardest lessons, and the strategies that changed everything.
No fluff, no filler—just actionable insights to help you boost profits, build your brand, and create the kind of restaurant you’ve always dreamed of.
So, if you’re ready to stop spinning your wheels and start seeing results, hit subscribe.
I’m Josh Kopel, a Michelin-awarded restaurateur who’s spent decades building blockbuster brands across every tier of dining. I know the challenges you’re facing—because I’ve been there. That’s why I created FULL COMP.
Every week, I go one-on-one with the smartest minds in the game: restaurateurs, chefs, and industry insiders who’ve cracked the code. Together, we unpack their biggest wins, hardest lessons, and the strategies that changed everything.
No fluff, no filler—just actionable insights to help you boost profits, build your brand, and create the kind of restaurant you’ve always dreamed of.
So, if you’re ready to stop spinning your wheels and start seeing results, hit subscribe.
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Jun 30, 2020 • 25min
Chaos is a Ladder: Jon Strader, founder of Hatchet Hall & Little Coyote
With an estimated 30-50% of all restaurants permanently closed, what does that mean for the future of the industry? What does that mean for those of us still in the game? Today we chat with Jon Strader who’s using his grit and tenacity to build his empire when land is cheap and competition is low.
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SHOW NOTES
The difficulties of working for yourself
Keep up the momentum
You have a lot to learn
You make many mistakes
Success at Hatchet hall
Launching pad to take journeys to the next level
Pivoting at Hatchet Hall to a Bodega style service
Market boxes
Sold beer, wine, and liquor inventory
Merch
Family style pre-order meals
Bodega style is not sustainable for the fine-dining restaurant
Initially, customers want to support
There is a disconnect in the style of products
It’s necessary to completely reconceptualize during Covid
Fine dining is dead for the next 6 months
Covid is unpredictable
Contingency plan after contingency plan
Lack of leadership from the government at both local and federal levels
Potentially reopening as a casual dining experience
Guest seat themselves
Parking lot as a summer popup and picnic area
Reduced labor
Reduced inventory
No full service
The market doesn’t know what it wants until they see it
Adaptability and coming up with concepts on the fly
Everyone is in a fragile state right now
Everyone will be tougher afterward
Opening of Little Coyote
Opportunity at lockdown to buy a property on Long Beach for a good price
Bought the restaurant and turned it into a New York-style pizza place
Jack Leahy as the chef
Bootstrapped with family and friend investment
A concept they can run themselves if need be
Aims to turn a profit this year
Making pizza is low-cost
Labor needs are few
Service fee model
Difficult to get things done as everyone is in shellshock after Covid hit
Entry-level experiences will do better in a post-Covid world
Pizza, tacos, burgers, coffee, sandwiches - recession and covid proof
Employing a service fee model
Fairer distribution of tips
Whole staff can have a liveable wage
Lessons during quarantine
Family first, restaurant second
Not being a slave to the business
Lessening obsessive tendencies around the business
Avoiding refreshing emails
Avoiding staying plugged into social media
Avoiding prioritizing the business over family time
Redefining what we want our lives to look like
How many hours a week do we want to work?
What do we want our home life to look like?
How much money do we want to make this year and future years?
The state of the job market after Covid

Jun 26, 2020 • 40min
The Art of the Pivot: Mark Canlis, owner/operator of Canlis
On today’s show we chat with Mark Canlis, made famous by transforming his Michelin-starred restaurant into a bagel stand and burger joint saving jobs and his restaurant.
When the pandemic hit, the conventional wisdom in the industry was to shut down and hoard cash. Mark did the exact opposite, pivoting his fine dining restaurant into 3 casual concepts, almost overnight. Today we discuss the idea behind such a bold move, how it worked out and what the future looks like for the Canlis family and their restaurant.
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SHOW NOTES
How much to invest where
Before then worked for Danny Meyer
Been in restaurants for 20 years
Incorporated other family members into the business
Fine dining is the most considered way of caring about people with food
Conventional response from fine dining restaurants when Covid hit
How it felt to pivot
A trainwreck that has somehow stayed on the track
Hardest and most rewarding thing they’ve ever done
Hugely grateful for the team and city who have supported
Mission at Canlis
Began by listing strengths and weaknesses
150 employees who are all in
Located on a freeway - drive-through potential
What can we be thankful for?
What assets do we have?
Pivoting into three tiers of dining
Restaurant encouraged customers to see that life goes on
Losing money immediately after Covid lockdown
Canceled 3 months of reservations in March
Refunding 1000 reservations
Having an amazing team on your side
Didn’t lose any staff
Incredible energy of the staff to keep things running
Letting the creativity and work ethic of the team run free
National attention due to ingenuity of their pivot
Esquire magazine wrote about them
Amazing to be noticed
One story in a sea of one thousand stories
Now is the time to try
Racial inequality in America
Inspiring to see people try something so hard
Trying imperfectly is better than not doing anything at all
Showing up 90% of the battle
In the restaurant business, you never know what you are doing
Show up and put in everything in this today
Review the results tomorrow to improve
How Mark got through the pivoting process
He was in the military during 9/11
It was comforting to have a mission
Feel less helpless
During Covid, having the mission of keeping staff felt less helpless
Prioritizing the present
One day at a time
Future is less important than the present
You don’t need to have the answers
Be present with the community, city, family, staff
Hospitality has roots in making space for the other
How do we carry this value into the future?
How do we help those who are needy?
A-ha moments during the pandemic
Becoming more vulnerable and less polished

Jun 23, 2020 • 23min
Set Yourself Up For Success: David Meltzer famed entrepreneur, author and business coach
On Today’s show we chat with David Meltzer, a three-time international best-selling author, a Top 100 Business Coach, the executive producer of Entrepreneur‘s #1 digital business show, and host of the top entrepreneur podcast.
The hospitality business, more than anything, is a business. Due to the hectic nature of the industry we tend to forget that and get caught up in the day to day grind. Proper business strategy will matter more than great food in the new normal and David Meltzer is a master strategist. Today he runs us through the fundamentals of business and leadership.
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SHOW NOTES
4 pillars of truth
Putting together a world-class team
Humans can create their own environment
Restaurants - we are monetizing an experience and environment
Transforming an offensive and defensive mindset
The paradox of giving
David would give a lot but always with expectation of praise, recognition, love, etc
Ferocious about receiving. Receiving to be able to give back
The importance of mentorship
Most crucial of all roles in last 14years
David didn’t need mentorship in beginning - multimillionaire in his twenties
Now believes the easiest and best way to be successful is using mentors
Being specific with mentors e.g sleep, money
Being radically humble enough to say “you’re the only one who can help me”
How to reset goals with the new normal
How to recover in the hospitality industry
People buy on emotion for logical reasons
Key to understanding reopening
1. Strength of signal.
Credibility - relieving reasons that people feel uncomfortable.
Lower capacity. Mask rules. 6ft apart etc
2. Market to people who aren’t afraid
Some people will go out anyway during this time
3. Clear message of value
Quality food/USP
People want to fill a void. Miss what they can’t have
Address the way people feel. You are selling an experience
Aha moments through the pandemic
“I don’t know what I don’t know”
David wants to be a better husband and father
Much more important than being a podcaster, entrepreneur, TV star, etc
David would prefer to be at a family dinner than an award show, event, or Superbowl
Pivoting
Previously worked with in-person workshops, events, and speaking engagements
Now conducts workshops online
Moved to online speaking gigs
Still learning work-life balance
Achieving happiness
David defined himself by his bank account
Now his bank account is an ingredient of the overall thermostat of happiness and joy
Higher % of total happiness than he has ever been
Minutes and moments of unhappiness

Jun 19, 2020 • 29min
It’s Time to Discuss Your Prices: Joelle Parenteau, founder of Wolf Down
Are you charging what your food is worth or are you charging what customers are willing to pay? What do we need to do to fix our broken system? We cover this and so much more with third-time entrepreneur, first-time restaurateur Joelle Parenteau whose fresh take on the industry will blow your mind.
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SHOW NOTES
Beginnings of Wolf Down
Lessons learned in the first year of business
Many in the supply chain have dated processes
Estimating food volume is very difficult to do
Put back up plans in place to have enough stock
Allocating staff hours is tough
Restaurant business is volatile
Coping with rushes in the restaurant
Increase efficiency
Time to get an order through
Time to make the doner sandwich
Time to get people through the door
Streamlined menu
Allocating sources accordingly
Labor
Having a delivery business
Wolf Down was always a delivery business
Was 50-50 delivery - dine-in
Now predominantly delivery
Covid happened 10 months into operation
Bakery who makes there bread shut down for many weeks
Foundational issues in the industry
Pricing in the restaurant business
Price wars have caused low prices
Will customers revolt?
Provide a unique, high-quality product to justify higher prices
Wolf Down increased pricing during Covid
No one noticed or cared
If the product is good, people will pay for it
Prove the value is there no matter what your price point is
Stand out and differentiate
Raising delivery pricing in line with commission costs
Third-party delivery apps take 25-30% commission
Customers wanted delivery
Offering delivery at a premium
Consumers are moving to the convenience model
We must adjust and adapt to our customers wants
Some issues with gratuities
Relying on customers to pay your people
Most people don’t vary the tip amount
Tipping is not motivating service
Doesn’t make sense for quick-serve establishments like Wolf Down
Creates discomfort for customers
How Wolf Down attempted to solve the tipping problem
Abolished gratuities
Raise pricing to pay staff
Staff don’t ask for tips
Tip jar for customers who insist on tipping
People were angry they couldn’t tip
Engrained in the culture
Benefits of a cashless system
Saves labor costs of staff counting tills
Safer - cashless restaurants less likely to be robbed
If someone comes in and they only have cash, staff find a way to make it work
The realities of restaurants post-covid
Pre-ordering
Delivery
QR Menus
Joelle’s aim is to build foundations this year for expansion in later years
Message to the industry
Raise your prices

Jun 16, 2020 • 28min
How To Do Well By Doing Good: Chef Chris Shepherd founder of Southern Smoke
On today's show, we chat with James Beard award winning chef Chris Shepherd founder of the non-profit, Southern Smoke.
Most of us in the hospitality industry wouldn’t consider ourselves needy or in need of assistance. We’re internally motivated, not afraid of hard work and resourceful as hell. But when the pandemic hit it decimated our industry and our livelihoods. Out of the blue Southern Smoke came to the rescue. To date they have distributed millions of dollars to hospitality workers in need.
Today, it’s founder shares it’s origins, their mission and what they’re doing to ensure we’re all taken care of.
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SHOW NOTES
Beginnings of charity work
Started doing dinners to raise money for culinary scholarships
Lost a colleague to MS. Business partner also had MS
Started planning a dinner for MS which transformed into a festival
Raised $181k for the MS Society year 1
Year 2 raised $284k
Beginnings of Southern Smoke
Hurricane Harvey devastated local businesses
No designated support for hospitality businesses
Emulated The Giving Kitchen from Atlanta
The vetting process at Southern Smoke
That first year there were 250 applications
139 families awarded $500k
Southern Smoke continues to donate to MS, remainder to hospitality workers
Southern Smoke during Covid
Originally has 2.5 employees
Now has over 40 employees
Hire unemployed hospitality workers and trained them to be caseworkers
Over 25k applications
Granted over 1000 over $2million
Willy Nelson concert donated funds
Reopening of restaurants
Running at 50% capacity does not mean that 50% of potential covers will come to the restaurant
Many people still not comfortable enough for dine-in
Pivoting the restaurant business
The aim is to break-even, not to make profit
Having a solid team is vital
Unity and solidarity
Punch fear in the face
How to achieve work-life balance
Delegate to mangers to do the long shifts
Building on a great legacy
Won many accolades
Started incredible restaurants
Started non-profit
Next steps
Aim is to create a group of restaurants that enable Chris’ team to fulfill their dreams
Putting restaurant people where they want to be
Southern Smoke as inspiration for future non-profits to build safety nets for every industry
To the industry
Keep your head down
We’ll get through this together
Use your voice for good

Jun 12, 2020 • 34min
The Mindset Required to Succeed in Hospitality: Michael Chernow
The biggest advantage to coming up in the restaurant industry is that it forces you to be innovative. It rare that you have the money you need so you learn to do without or you learn to do it yourself. On today's show, we chat with chef , TV host, fitness guru and family man Michael Chernow who tears down the veil on our industry, showing the best and worst it has to offer. Chernow leads us on a no-frills tour of the lessons he's learned at the highest levels of our industry.
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SHOW NOTES
NYC is the epicenter of culture and community
Community congregates at restaurants and bars
50% capacity is not likely to work in NYC due to low revenue
Renegotiating with landlords
Tax loophole for landlords if they lose business
Landlords don’t want to lose all of their customers
Ball is in the operator’s court to renegotiate
Could make a big difference to margins
Medium article suggests that 19% margins in a restaurant is possible
Micahel thinks this is unlikely because of the structure of the restaurant business
Poor working conditions in the hospitality industry
Many can’t afford health care
No 401k
No savings
Raising prices as unlikely
Michael believes people won’t pay more for food
Overheads of the restaurant business
Labor imbalances
Food costs are not coming down
Making many brands is not necessarily the way forward
Could be more successful opening 1 restaurant every 3-5 years instead of a new concept every 3-5 years
Focusing on one restaurant and making it amazing
Hard-work can only get you so far
In fitness, putting in the work creates 90% of the results
In business, many other factors determine success
Making good decisions in business
Sold equity from Meatball Shop after 5 years
Bought a house outside NYC
Sold equity from Seamore’s after 3 years
Sold in November 2019
Lucky that this was just before the pandemic crash
Selling equity
Equity is only worth something when you sell it
Take as much equity as you can whenever you can
Lessons from mentors
Don’t become a fixture of your business
Don’t get too attached to your business
Running a sustainable seafood restaurant
Passionate about seafood
US is working hard on reforming fisheries
Oceans are in bad shape globally
Grew up fishing as a teenager
90% of fish eaten in America is imported
Abundant and sustainable American fish that few people know about e.g dogfish, bluefish
Created Seamore’s selling these little known varieties of fish ethically sourced in from American lakes
Creating cultures and environments
Environment the staff loves working in
Attracting great guests
Being in the memory-making business
Cornell University study

Jun 9, 2020 • 38min
Breaking the Rules for a Better Life: Chef Nyesha Arrington
On today's show we chat with celebrity chef and environmental advocate Nyesha Arrington who's efforts to achieve sustainability in her personal and professional life have garnered her national attention. Nyesha's unconditional respect for quality of life and the people in it has led her to break every rule in the book. Her unconventional path within hospitality has taken her from Top Chef to a brick and mortar in Santa Monica and all the way to private dinners in Belize. She sets the rules and follows her truth, every single day. Today we discuss what motivates, inspires and excites the chef about the future.
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SHOW NOTES
Sustainability in business
Sustainability in life
The pandemic has been a great time to reflect
Managing a popup and event culinary business during Covid has been difficult
Entry into the hospitality industry
Starting projects during the lockdown was nurturing to the soul
Started a garden with a neighbor
Work-life balance is perfect when you are not working
Building great habits for a sustainable life balance
There will always be a bit of an imbalance because hospitality folks are wired a bit differently
Hospitality folks are analytical, quick-thinking, passionate
There is a fear we could go back to how things were if we reopen too quickly
We haven’t figured things out yet
Problems in the industry
Raising prices
Commodities have only gone up, labor has gone up
Quick fix would be to raise prices but is the world ready for the prices to rise
The burden outweighs the reward
What it takes to diversify your business
Catering takes more labor
Adding more spaces is more investment
Nyesha is hesitant to start her own venture
Loves hospitality
Focuses on private parties and content creation
Wanted a business on her terms
Work-life balance is a priority
Things Nyesha would do differently in her own restaurant
Different ways to move around monetary allocation
Some of the best restaurants have had to pivot
Noma makes burgers
Nyesha and Josh have both had to be dishwashers during difficult shifts
We do what we have to to keep things running
Conceptualizing a fresh start
Lots of commercial real estate available in the next 6 months
Learning from great mentors
Nyesha has many mentors for different aspects of her life
We should entrust the future of the industry to the talented young people who deserve an opportunity to shine
Going on a journey of self-discovery
Reviewing her life in the industry as a young biracial woman
Looked back on fine dining career in Michelin star restaurants
Ethos in cooking rooted in nurturing
Learning what she wants her food to look like
Potential safety measures for reopening
Everyone is in the same boat - grasping for information

Jun 5, 2020 • 23min
Public Relations Masterclass: Jeff Smith & Jill Sandin of JS2 PR
Storytelling is central to the restaurant experience and, what guests love most whether they realize it or not, is the story we're telling within the four walls of our restaurants. But how does that story translate outside of those 4 walls and what stories should we be telling post-pandemic. We cover all of that and much more on today's show with Jeff Smith and Jill Sandin of JS2 in Los Angeles, one of the premier hospitality public relations firms repping everyone from Starbucks to famed restaurant Juniper and Ivy.
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SHOW NOTES
The secrets to success in the restaurant business
Understanding who we are in the market place
Having a deeply interesting story to tell
Not being all things to all people
We must understand the connection between food, service, excitement and experience
Solid business practices and managing the P&L
Food is deeply personal
Food memories drive our relationship with restaurants
Client USP is the basis of great PR
They do a branding exercise to understand the core essence of the restaurant
Finding the tiny stories and a-ha moments that make the restaurant unique
PR is very competitive
The media is demanding and jaded
LA is saturated with great food stories and food personalities
Standing out in the crowd
Find the one story that gets heads nodding or touches the heart
Follow the love/passion and you will find the story
Covid19 aftermath is like 9/11
JS2 PR started 3 weeks before 9/11
We are all in it together
The world is in mourning
We must communicate in a delicate way
Communicating during a crisis
Skillful storytelling is key
We must be respectful and authentic
Stay away from icky salesman
Difference between information and promotion
4 phase approach to PR during Covid19
Examples of PR during this time
Saikai Ramen Bar - used remaining inventory to make ramen for local police and fire stations
Dog Bakery - delivered dog food for free to local community
Pasta Sisters - found other jobs for staff to keep them on payroll so they can still receive health benefits
Practical advice for reopening
What is your objective in this moment?
We must be sensitive to the mood of the customer
Fear makes people react in ways we can’t predict
Trim hours and menu if needed
Invest in excellent service
Prioritizing storytelling
The more personal the better
How to get more media coverage
Hospitality industry is in the news cycle a lot because of being the hardest hit during the pandemic
Focus on stories of courage, compassion, and/or creativity
Predictions for consumer behavior after the pandemic
People are longing for connection
They want to come back to restaurants and bars
Consumers will be looking for places that make the very best food in the very best way
High expectations

Jun 2, 2020 • 27min
Charting a New Path Forward: Top Chef Joe Sasto
We've had months to discuss what we miss about the restaurant industry, what about what we don't miss? What parts of us and this industry should we leave behind? On today's show, we chat with Chef Joe Sasto, a renaissance man charting a new path in the industry through pop-ups, pasta classes & underground events. Together we'll ask the tough questions and try and find the path forward.
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SHOW NOTES
Working at Quince
Working at Lazy Bear
Work culture translates to your guest experience
You can taste bad energy and stress
You can still execute Michelin star quality with a happier work environment
Greatest mentor was Jason Berthold
Worked at The French Laundry
Inspired his team by leading by example
Extreme passion for his work
Commanded level of respect without asking for it
Joe thinks back to him when inspiring his own team
Being a chef doesn’t automatically demand respect
Respect is earned via good leadership
Journey to working in Michelin star restaurants
Won Aspen Food & Win 2013
Worked in an environment that was pushing for higher covers
He didn’t find this fulfilling
Took 8 weeks backpacking around Europe with his brother
Discovered his goals
Decided to refine his technique in Michelin star restaurants
Working unconventionally
Started creating pop-ups across the country
Does online and in-person food experiences and classes
Pop-ups and events are not easy
Less stability
Pushes creativity
Pushes the boundaries of dining
Goals for the future
Settle down and open restaurants
Has a few concepts in mind
Biggest hurdle: finding the right market
Finding the right market
Neighborhood determines success
Concerns as a business owner when considering a city
There has been a mass exodus from large cities
Joe is considering Portland - likes the culture, people, and opportunity
The hospitality industry has razor-thin margins so the location must be chosen wisely
The importance of sharing your story
Sharing Joe’s story was influential and inspiring to others
This was even more important during the pandemic
The more he shared, the more he could connect with others through food
We can feel better about what we are going through by sharing experiences
Work-life balance - a major issue in the industry
Realizes the importance of mental health
We have an opportunity to rebuild with work-life balance in mind
Rebuilding with employees in mind
Creating structures that favor employees
Giving them a voice
Our employees make everything happen
Changes he would make for his own restaurants
Culture of putting employees first
Being adaptable and quick to pivot
Fast-casual dining with traditional dine-in models for stability and longevity

May 29, 2020 • 28min
The Benefits of Community Building: Chef Nina Compton, Chef/Owner of Compère Lapin
What I miss most about Louisiana is the sense of community I felt there. What I miss is exactly what compelled Chef Nina Compton to move there. Since arriving she's opened multiple restaurants and has achieved every imaginable accolade including a James Beard award, the title of Best New Chef from Food & Wine and was listed as one of America's Best Restaurants by Eater. Nothing could stop that momentum...except for a global pandemic. Today we discuss the long road ahead and the need to come together as a community if we're going to make it out of this alive.
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SHOW NOTES
Is reopening possible?
Restaurants will be different
Dining etiquette will be different
Cons of pivoting to delivery
Low check average
Not ordering beverages
Not ordering appetizers
Goal is to break even for the next year
Making profit is probably not realistic for a while
Keep doors open until things bounce back
Wondering whether to change careers
Who would be hiring now?
Some days there is hope that everything will be okay
Some days considering getting a 9-5 job
As an owner, you are emotionally invested in the restaurant
Restaurant as a reflection of self
Supply chain is counting on us
Staff
Farmers
Wine producers
Fisherman
Grocers
Communicating the realities of the restaurant ecosystem
Not a lucrative business
Low return on high workload
People take for granted that plates, food, labor etc costs money
The danger of raising prices
Not wanting to turn away customers
“Meals are about moments, memories, and those who surround you at your table.”
What does this look like post-pandemic?
People want restaurants to come back
Food is very comforting and people need comfort
The lead up to closing
Trying to keep guests and staff safe
Hand sanitizer
Single-use menus
Spacing tables
Reopening strategy
Keys to success


