The Cartographers

How do we think about our days, weeks, and seasons? In this conversation with Glenn Packiam, Ashley Hales and Bryce Hales talk about emotional health for leaders, the difference between information and transformation, and how an intentional year fits in.Resources mentioned:Holly Packiam and Glenn Packiam, The Intentional YearGlenn Packiam, The Resilient Pastor and more resources at BarnaThe Cartographers is a production of Willowbrae Institute. Find out more at willowbrae.org. The Cartographers is hosted by Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales and mixed and edited by Nathan Michel. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What does it look like to grow old -- not just in years but in wisdom? How are young men growing in maturity? What does emotional health look like?Part of charting the cultural landscape for Christian leaders is paying attention to our spiritual health and the need for sage guides. Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales speak to counselor Chris Bruno about his new book, Sage.Resources mentioned:Chris Bruno's ReStory CounselingChris' book, SageThe Cartographers is a production of Willowbrae Institute. Find out more at willowbrae.org. The Cartographers is hosted by Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales and mixed and edited by Nathan Michel. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How do our limits lead us towards love? What is our understanding of the human person within the sphere of faith? How do we actually live out a kingdom ethnic in this day and age?Part of charting the cultural landscape for Christian leaders is a full understanding of the human person. In this conversation, Ashley Hales and Bryce Hales speak with David Zahl about his book, Low Anthropology.Resources mentioned:David Zahl, Mockingbird MinistriesDavid's book: Low AnthropologyThe Cartographers is a production of Willowbrae Institute. Find out more at willowbrae.org. The Cartographers is hosted by Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales and mixed and edited by Nathan Michel. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How do we move through pain? What forms can we use to practice communal identity with others and promote honesty before God? How do liturgies form us?Part of charting the cultural landscape for Christian leaders is promoting forms for communal and historical identity, rather than a flippant individualism. In this interview, Ashley Hales speaks to writer Douglas McKelvey about his work in Every Moment Holy.Resources mentioned:DISCOUNT CODE for listeners: 15% off use code EMHHALESEvery Moment HolyRabbit RoomDOUGLAS KAINE MCKELVEY grew up in East Texas and moved to Nashville in 1991 to participate in the early work of Charlie Peacock’s Art House Foundation, an organization dedicated to a shared exploration of faith and the arts. In the years since, he has worked as an author, song lyricist, scriptwriter, and video director. He has penned more than 350 lyrics recorded by artists including Switchfoot, Kenny Rogers, Sanctus Real, and Jason Gray. Doug and his wife Lise have three grown daughters, three sons-in-law, and one sparkly-eyed granddaughter.  The Cartographers is a production of Willowbrae Institute. Find out more at willowbrae.org. The Cartographers is hosted by Bryce Hales and Ashley Hales and mixed and edited by Nathan Michel. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Finding Holy is transitioning to The Cartographers: Mapping the Cultural Landscape for 21st century Christian Leaders.Join Ashley Hales and Bryce Hales as they have conversations with guests in a changing cultural landscape. Escape the same thoughtful commentary and questions, wise ways forward, and a new emphasis on the intersection between spiritual formation, imagination, individual and institutions.The Cartographers will release every other Tuesday. We'll be back in 2 weeks with 3 new episodes. Be sure to subscribe! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this third conversation with Jen Pollock Michel, we talk about how a rule of life helps lower our time-anxiety. This is a practical tool to cooperation with the work of God and of grace in our lives. We talk about the power of attention, the way of wisdom, and practical ways to move through December and January.LINKSJen’s new book, In Good TimePre-order Bonus: Jen's free 4 week course on a rule of life this JanuaryWin 1 of 5 copies of In Good Time! Just rate and review the Finding Holy Podcast! When you do just send me a quick note to findingholypodcast@gmail.com and you’ll be entered to win a copy!Ashley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You can find out more about her work and speaking at aahales.com and signup for her substack.The Finding Holy Podcast will be looking a bit different and a lot the same in the new year as we place the podcast under the direction of Willowbrae Institute. Be sure to leave a rating and review wherever you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this second conversation this Advent season, Jen Pollock Michel and I talk about how to keep time (not save it or spend it). How do we approach the time that we have? We talk what a rule of life is. This is a timely conversation now, but is great for end-of-year and beginning-of-the-year thoughts, planning and goals! Here's how not to get overwhelmed. Listen in to this thoughtful, fun, and practical episode.LINKSJen’s book, In Good TimePre-order Bonus: Jen's free 4 week course on a rule of lifeWin 1 of 5 copies of In Good Time! Just rate and review the Finding Holy Podcast! When you do just send me a quick note to findingholypodcast@gmail.com and you’ll be entered to win a copy!Ashley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You can find out more about her work and speaking at aahales.com and signup for her substack. Be sure to leave a rating and review wherever you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Do you feel rushed or overwhelmed this time of year? During Advent, Ashley speaks with Jen Pollock Michel about how we might better think about living in the time that is given to us. In this episode we talk about the time anxiety that attends us during the holiday rush and some practical steps forward.We're also giving away 5 copies of In Good Time! To enter, rate and review the podcast and let me know you've done it by sending an email to findingholypodcast@gmail.com.LINKSJen’s book, In Good TimePre-order Bonus: 4 week course on a rule of lifeWin 1 of 5 copies of In Good Time! Just rate and review the Finding Holy Podcast! When you do just send me a quick note to findingholypodcast@gmail.com and you’ll be entered to win a copy!Ashley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You can find out more about her work and speaking at aahales.com and signup for her substack. Be sure to leave a rating and review wherever you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

What does it mean to practice time-keeping as a Christian? In this episode, Ashley sits down with Hannah Anderson to talk about Advent, our need for liturgies, and what creation can teach us. Listen in and grab a copy of Hannah's book.LINKSHannah and Nathan's book, Heaven and Nature SingFollow Hannah on TwitterHannah's websiteAshley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You can find out more about her work and speaking at aahales.com and signup for her substack. Be sure to leave a rating and review wherever you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Are you overwhelmed? Ashley Hales talks with Ann Swindell about her devotional, The Path to Peace. As we walk through the lives of several biblical characters, we'll begin to see that the point is less to do with our circumstances and more about knowing God. Listen in to this hopeful conversation.LINKSAnn's website, including her writing coursesAnn's book, The Path to PeaceAshley’s most recent book, A Spacious Life is in paperback, ebook and audio. You can find out more about her work and speaking at aahales.com and signup for her substack. Be sure to leave a rating and review wherever you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices