CNA Talks: A National Security Podcast

We cover the recent conflict between India and Pakistan, why they were able to desescalate so quickly, and what this tells us about nuclear deterrence and escalation.  Guest Biographies Stephanie Stapleton is a Research Scientist with CNA’s Strategy and Policy Analysis Program. She is an expert in nuclear policy and strategic deterrence, with a focus on strategic competition within the emerging two-near-peer security environment. Decker Evelth is an Associate Research Analyst with CNA’s Countering Threats and Challenges Program. He specializes in open-source analysis.  Further Reading CNA: Nuclear Research  

Two CNA field analysts discuss their work assisting operations to ensure freedom of navigation in the Red Sea.  Guest Biographies Dr. Keith Zirkle is a research scientist in CNA’s Fleet Operations and Assessments Program. He is CNA’s field representative at Naval Forces Central Command.  Kevin O'Connell is a research analyst in CNA’s Fleet Operations and Assessments Program. He is currently CNA’s field representative to Commander, Seventh Fleet, but he deployed with Carrier Strike Group 2 during the Red Sea crisis.  Further Reading CNA Field Program    

This episode examines what DeepSeek’s AI model tells us about China’s AI ecosystem, military applications for this technology, and other developments in China’s high-tech sector.  Guest Biographies  April Herlevi is a senior research scientist in CNA’s China and Indo-Pacific Security Affairs Division.  Christopher Cairns is a research scientist in CNA’s China and Indo-Pacific Security Affairs Division. Further Reading Intersections: Issue 13  To subscribe to Intersections, email Intersections@cna.org.  

Dmitry Gorenburg, winner of this year’s Trustees Award, joins the show to discuss his 20-year career at CNA and how the study of Russia has changed during that time.    Guest Biography  Dmitry Gorenburg is a Senior Research Scientist in CNA’s Russia Studies Program. He is an expert on security issues in the former Soviet Union, the Russian military, Russian foreign policy, and ethnic politics and identity. His recent research has focused on decision-making processes in the senior Russian leadership, Russia’s relationship with China, Russian naval strategy, and Russian influence operations. Further Reading News Release: CNA Trustees Award Presented to Dmitry Gorenburg CNA Report: Russian Military Mobilization During the Ukraine War CNA Report: Crafting the Russian War Economy

This episode examines how uncrewed systems have been used in the Ukraine war and how the US can use this information to develop countermeasures.  Guest Biographies Samuel Bendett is an advisor with CNA’s Russia Studies Program. His research focuses on Russian defense and technology developments; uncrewed, robotic, and autonomous military systems; artificial intelligence; and Russian military capabilities. His analysis of Russia’s war against Ukraine has appeared in globally read news outlets such as VICE and The Washington Post.   Michael Petersen is a principal research scientist in CNA's Russia Studies Program. He is an expert on Russian military strategy, operations, and net assessments of high-intensity conflict. From 2023-2024, he served as senior advisor to Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Lisa Franchetti.  Further Reading CNA InDepth: Drones Over Ukraine CNA Report: Russia’s Use of Uncrewed Systems in Ukraine

Julian G. Waller, a Research Analyst specializing in Russian political-military affairs, and Elizabeth Wishnick, an expert on China-Russian relations, delve into the intricate and evolving partnership between Russia and Iran. They discuss how the Ukraine war has intensified military cooperation, including Iran's weapon supply to Russia. Key moments like the Syrian civil war and the complexities of joint drone production reveal the strategic depth of their alliance. The podcast explores their navigations through sanctions and the dynamics involving China, emphasizing the need for nuanced understanding.

Our partners from the FAA’s Center for Excellence’s ASSUREd Safe join the show to discuss integrating uncrewed aerial systems into the national airspace.  Guest Biographies BJ McClenton is the Associate Director of ASSUREd Safe, brings over 20 years of first responder and emergency service experience as a firefighter and emergency medical technician. Prior to joining ASSUREd Safe, he spent 15 years working with Mississippi State University Extension conducting adult education and outreach programs. Michelle Hanlon is the Executive Director of the Air and Space Law Program at the University of Mississippi. She is the Editor-in-Chief of both the Journal of Space Law and the Journal of Drone Law & Policy. As a key partner with ASSURE, the FAA’s Center of Excellence for UAS Research, Michelle drives advancements in drone policy, from airspace integration to beyond-visual-line-of-sight operations. Steven Habicht is the director of CNA’s Center for Enterprise Systems Modernization.  Further Reading CNA: Agent-Based Modeling of Uncrewed Aircraft System Flight Planning for Airspace Fairness CNA: Port Security and Emergency Response Using Autonomous Systems: Virginia Pilot Program  

This episode covers South Korean President Yoon’s December 3 declaration of martial law, his impeachment, and what this means for US/ROK security cooperation.  Guest Biographies Dr. Thomas Bickford is a principal research scientist in the CNA Indo-Pacific Security Affairs Program. His research has focused on Chinese maritime strategy, Chinese national security policy, and China’s relations with its neighbors. Carita Reid is the Research Assistant for the China and Indo-Pacific Security Affairs Division. Her research focuses on the Korean peninsula, and she is interested in the domestic environment of both Koreas, nuclear proliferation, democratization efforts, and human rights.

In this discussion, April Herlevi and Christopher Cairns, both experts in Chinese security and technology, dive into China's rapid advancements in dual-use technology. They explore the PLA's military AI developments, revealing how civilian tech is intertwining with defense strategies. The conversation also highlights China's semiconductor ambitions, emphasizing the role of nationalism and government support. Additionally, they touch on the significance of subsea technologies for military and civilian applications, and the implications of China's growing commercial space industry on global security.

Experts from across CNA join the show to discuss their research on challenges the industrial base faces in meeting U.S. government demands.  Guest Biographies  Dr. Charles A. Cartier is a research scientist in CNA’s Gaming and Integration Program. He was a lead analyst and co-designer of the CAMOLAND wargame on Clothing and Textiles for the Defense Logistics Agency.  Dawn Thomas is a co-director of the Center for Emergency Management and Operations and director of the Center for Critical Incident Analysis. She is an expert in large-scale incident planning and response. April Cho is a research scientist in CNA’s Data Science Predictive Analytics Program. She has worked on various projects supporting the Navy, including the munitions industrial base study for the Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Research, Development, and Acquisition.    Further Reading CNA Report: Camoland Clothing and Textile Industrial Base Wargame Report The Blue Book Project Registration Link: Blue Book TV Hosts: Planning for National Security Emergencies