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Apr 3, 2025 • 30min

From Zero to $400M with Shazam founder Dhiraj Mukherjee

SPONSOR: Direct Bullion. Download your free Guide to Gold Pensions Now. (plus get a special bonus).CLICK HERE NOW: https://robmoore.directbullion.com   Rob speaks to Raj, the founder of Shazam, who sold his company to Apple for a reported $400 million. Raj talks about building Shazam, including the fact that it took 15 years to become profitable! From raising over $150 million across multiple funding rounds to navigating an 18 month exit process, Raj's gives his thoughts and experiences on entrepreneurship, investment philosophy, and leadership.   KEY TAKEAWAYS   Shazam took 15 years to reach profitability before selling to Apple for $400 million. Raj and his partners raised over $150 million across multiple funding rounds, showing the importance of investor patience and founder persistence in tech startups. When pitching to investors, focus on ‘magical thinking’ which is projecting your vision clearly until others believe it. Spend time having multiple conversations and look for investors who genuinely connect with your story. Building a successful exit takes time, Shazam's sale involved a nine month transaction period plus another nine months for regulatory approval. Clean, transparent deal structures are preferable to complexity. The most vital trait for entrepreneurs is being mentally fluid, knowing when to pivot, learning faster than the market by processing new information and paying attention to weak signals is essential. Leadership isn't about micromanagement but setting up problems for your team to solve rather than dictating solutions. This allows smarter team members to develop innovative approaches.   BEST MOMENTS   "I like to call myself a tech for good investor so I try to invest in companies which are aiming to make a difference in the world... It's very rewarding in the sense of intellectual stimulation. I'm not quite sure if it's going to be rewarding financially, the jury is out."   "The market is constantly moving. You have new technology, new opportunities, competition, new products being launched. Your job as an entrepreneur is to learn faster than the market."   "If you are a parent and your kid is starving, you're short of food, are you going to give up on that kid? Never. You'll do whatever it takes to keep that child alive. And that's what we had to do."     VALUABLE RESOURCES https://robmoore.com/ bit.ly/Robsupporter   https://robmoore.com/podbooks rob.team ABOUT THE HOST Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur” “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything” CONTACT METHOD Rob’s official website: https://robmoore.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robmooreprogressive/?ref=br_rs LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/robmoore1979   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Apr 1, 2025 • 30min

Simon Arora | The Balance of Taxes and Entrepreneurship in the UK

SPONSOR: Direct Bullion. Download your free Guide to Gold Pensions Now. (plus get a special bonus).CLICK HERE NOW: https://robmoore.directbullion.com In this episode, Rob discusses the current state of capitalism in the UK through the lens of entrepreneurship and taxation with Simon Arora. Simon argues that the system works, but emphasises the need for a cohesive society supported by fair tax policies.  KEY TAKEAWAYS There is a need for a cohesive society that balances economic growth with social responsibility. Investing and risking personal capital should be treated differently from earning a salary. The public sector could benefit from adopting productivity measures similar to those in the private sector. The current system may lack accountability and incentives for performance, leading to inefficiencies. Complacency and a lack of competitive drive have emerged in society, particularly among younger generations.  BEST MOMENTS "The driving force isn't the personal wealth. The driving force is to achieve your potential and to be successful, to be the best you can be." "I made it my job to skate where the puck is going rather than where the puck is." "Life's not about taking the easy route. Life's not about being lazy." VALUABLE RESOURCES https://robmoore.com/ bit.ly/Robsupporter   https://robmoore.com/podbooks rob.team ABOUT THE HOST Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur” “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything” CONTACT METHOD Rob’s official website: https://robmoore.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robmooreprogressive/?ref=br_rs LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/robmoore1979
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Mar 27, 2025 • 5min

Simon Arora | Working From Home is Unfair and Unproductive

SPONSOR: Direct Bullion. Download your free Guide to Gold Pensions Now. (plus get a special bonus).CLICK HERE NOW: https://robmoore.directbullion.com   Rob and CEO of B&M Simon Arora talk about what it takes to be a valuable entrepreneur in a ‘sea’ of fakes on social media and why work ethic and realism matter. They also discuss the problems with working from home for businesses and individuals and why it can be unfair and unproductive.    KEY TAKEAWAYS Realism is essential as an entrepreneur, there is no space for naivety. Working from home doesn’t allow for effective collaboration and learning from others. There will always be 10% of your workforce doing the bare minimum, how can this be managed if they work from home?   BEST MOMENTS "Hard work matters” “If you’re going to fight against a big competitor you need energy and I’ve not been able to see that created from home” “The reality is it’s very hard for the senior leadership or your line manager to really know how hard you’re working”   VALUABLE RESOURCES https://robmoore.com/ bit.ly/Robsupporter   https://robmoore.com/podbooks rob.team ABOUT THE HOST Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur” “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything” CONTACT METHOD Rob’s official website: https://robmoore.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robmooreprogressive/?ref=br_rs LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/robmoore1979   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Mar 25, 2025 • 10min

Do We Need Billionaires? Grant Cardone Reveals The Truth

SPONSOR: Direct Bullion. Download your free Guide to Gold Pensions Now. (plus get a special bonus).CLICK HERE NOW: https://robmoore.directbullion.com Rob and Grant Cardone talk about whether we need billionaires. They discuss the pros billionaires offer to the economy and society and what we can learn from them. Grant Cardone also shares why he wants to be a trillionaire one day, why he doesn’t pay income tax and why anyone could be a billionaire.  KEY TAKEAWAYS Big institutions are making trillions of dollars, this is who the public should be focusing on rather than billionaires. We need people who take risks in society and billionaires are often being rewarded because they are the risk takers. Grant Cardone doesn’t pay income tax but he pays more than his fair share in employment and other taxes such as in property. There’s education in inequality, the billionaires play by a different set of rules than everyone else. People are rewarded for the value they create and make in the economy as we live in a capitalist society.   BEST MOMENTS   "Do we need billionaires? We need people who are going to take risks” “There are too many small companies and small thinking going on” “Don’t hate the player, don’t hate the game, learn the game, the game of the wealthy” “People are fairly rewarded for the value they make”   VALUABLE RESOURCES https://robmoore.com/ bit.ly/Robsupporter   https://robmoore.com/podbooks rob.team ABOUT THE HOST Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur” “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything” CONTACT METHOD Rob’s official website: https://robmoore.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robmooreprogressive/?ref=br_rs LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/robmoore1979   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Mar 20, 2025 • 36min

Money isn't Scarce, Everything Else is with Peter McCormack

SPONSOR: Direct Bullion. Download your free Guide to Gold Pensions Now. (plus get a special bonus).CLICK HERE NOW: https://robmoore.directbullion.com   Rob discusses the state of the UK financial system with journalist and podcaster Peter McCormack. They explore the government's alarming debt, the erosion of purchasing power and why Bitcoin might be the answer. Their conversation exposes uncomfortable truths about money that schools won't teach you and most media won't discuss.   KEY TAKEAWAYS   The UK government spends more servicing debt (£120 billion) than on education (£73 billion). This debt spiral is politically impossible to escape since no party can win an election by proposing austerity. Fiat currencies typically last about 90 years before collapsing. Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Lebanon, and Turkey demonstrate what happens when currencies fail. The UK and US may be headed toward similar fates. CBDCs represent a dystopian nightmare where governments could instantly freeze citizens' money. This surveillance state technology would make people slaves of the government rather than the other way around. Bitcoin offers a revolution through decentralised money that can't be controlled or debased by governments. It enables borderless transactions without intermediaries. In countries with failing currencies, people naturally gravitate toward better money. Citizens in Cambodia, Venezuela, and Argentina already prefer dollars or Bitcoin over their rapidly devaluing local currencies. Our current money system incentivises excessive consumption rather than saving. Bitcoin encourages more responsible spending by preserving value over time, potentially reducing wasteful industries like fast fashion.   BEST MOMENTS   "We are in a financial debt spiral. If the debt's not paid off, the debt's getting bigger and if the debt's getting bigger, it's going to drive more inflation, which is going to have a widening gap in society."   "I am a Bitcoiner because for me it is a peaceful revolution. It is a way to educate the people around money, educate the people around government, and peacefully protest. I'm not picking up a pitchfork or a gun, I am sending a transaction to you."   "What happens when the government makes a mistake with their allocation of capital? They hide it, they lie about it, they spin about it, and nothing. They tax us more. They are terrible allocators of capital."   "When the money isn't scarce, everything else is. I hold Bitcoin because it's scarce. I have very high conviction in 10 years time, everything I've got in Bitcoin is going to be worth considerably more than it is now."       VALUABLE RESOURCES https://robmoore.com/ bit.ly/Robsupporter   https://robmoore.com/podbooks rob.team ABOUT THE HOST Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur” “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything” CONTACT METHOD Rob’s official website: https://robmoore.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robmooreprogressive/?ref=br_rs LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/robmoore1979   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Mar 18, 2025 • 20min

Robert Kiyosaki | Use DEBT to get RICH

SPONSOR: Direct Bullion. Download your free Guide to Gold Pensions Now. (plus get a special bonus).CLICK HERE NOW: https://robmoore.directbullion.com Rob talks to billionaire real estate investor Robert Kiyosaki. Robert Kiyosaki shares shocking claims about our financial system, predicting a massive economic crash while revealing his strategies for building wealth without paying taxes. From advocating gold ownership to dismissing traditional investment advice as "loser" strategies, Rob and Robert Kiyosaki challenge conventional financial advice and might just change how you view money forever!   KEY TAKEAWAYS   Robert Kiyosaki believes we're witnessing the end of the American Empire, claiming that all empires eventually collapse when they debase their currency, as happened when the U.S. took the dollar off the gold standard in 1971. Real wealth comes from using debt strategically while owning physical assets like gold and silver, not from saving fiat currency. Robert Kiyosaki pays zero taxes legally by using tax incentives, forming a team of experts and structuring investments through real estate and precious metals, arguing that taxes primarily burden employees while entrepreneurs can legally avoid them. Traditional investment advice (like the 40-40-10 split between stocks, bonds, and gold) is described as 'the worst advice possible' by Robert Kiyosaki, warning that bonds will crash as interest rates rise, potentially wiping out banks and pensions. Robert Kiyosaki predicts silver will triple in value over the next two years and the silver-to-gold ratio will shift dramatically, making precious metals a better investment -vs- cash or digital currencies. Robert Kiyosaki talks about the importance of entrepreneurship and friendship in building wealth, sharing how he and his best friend pushed each other from their days at Xerox in 1974 to becoming multi-billionaires who "own the mines" rather than just the coins.   BEST MOMENTS   "Every empire dies when they violate this, when they changed the money... The reason you're doing so well today is because the dollar became debt... So real estate guys like my friend Trump and all that, we get rich using debt." "For me to get rich, I have to use debt, but what do our schools teach us? Stay out of debt. That's how stupid school teachers are. Debt makes guys like you and me rich. And ironically, because we use debt, we don't pay any taxes." "People who buy stocks, bonds, mutual funds are frickin losers. Why? Because you pay tax... I'm an entrepreneur. I am not an employee. I was a stupid kid in school, flunked out so many times." "One of the best assets you can have is your friend. So my friend and I always swore we'd be rich... We both met at Xerox in 1974. And we just pushed each other along, and today we're multi billionaires."     VALUABLE RESOURCES https://robmoore.com/ bit.ly/Robsupporter   https://robmoore.com/podbooks rob.team ABOUT THE HOST Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur” “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything” CONTACT METHOD Rob’s official website: https://robmoore.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robmooreprogressive/?ref=br_rs LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/robmoore1979   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Mar 13, 2025 • 12min

Kim Kiyosaki | Should You Buy or Rent Your Own Home?

Rob and Kim Kiyosaki debate whether you should buy or rent your home. They discuss the pros and cons of renting -vs- owning your own home, discussing both the personal and investing perspectives of this common question amongst investors, millionaires and entrepreneurs.     KEY TAKEAWAYS   Owning your own personal home means you can truly make it a home and make it your own, you’re free to do what you please aesthetically with the house. If it is much cheaper to rent than own, then it makes sense to rent. But if a mortgage isn’t much more or it’s cheaper, then you should buy. Buying your home isn’t an asset, but it is an investment, in your family especially. All money you pay in rent is dead money at least when paying a mortgage, some of it will allow you to own something. Owning your own home can mean you are able to secure loans for other things.   BEST MOMENTS   “Your personal residence is not an investment, it’s a real personal endeavour” “I wanted my own place where I could do what I want and make it my own” “Everyone says you should rent and not buy but all rent is dead money” “Having a home and equity is security, you can get loans” “Kim Kiyosaki agrees with Rob Moore”     VALUABLE RESOURCES https://robmoore.com/ bit.ly/Robsupporter   https://robmoore.com/podbooks rob.team ABOUT THE HOST Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur” “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything” CONTACT METHOD Rob’s official website: https://robmoore.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robmooreprogressive/?ref=br_rs LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/robmoore1979   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Mar 11, 2025 • 28min

The Truth About Banks and the Upcoming Crash with Kim Kiyosaki

Rob talks to entrepreneur and investor Kim Kiyosaki who discusses how women have been historically ignored when it comes to financial education. They also discuss good versus bad debt, the potential banking crisis and why financial education remains absent from schools. Kim also warns about the dangers of central bank digital currencies and advises on building wealth through cash flow and smart investments.    KEY TAKEAWAYS   Women haven't been encouraged to learn about money like men have. They're often taught to rely on husbands, family, or government for financial support, which can lead to money problems later in life. Schools don't teach money skills, possibly because banks benefit when people don't understand finances. The less people know about money, the easier it is to get them into debt. Digital currencies controlled by central banks are dangerous to personal freedom. They allow governments to track all purchases, potentially deny loans based on political views and limit how much you can spend. A banking crisis is coming as banks struggle with rising interest rates. Big banks may get bailed out while smaller community banks fail, leaving just a few powerful banks in control. Not all debt is bad. Kim says bad debt includes personal mortgages and credit cards, while good debt like rental property loans can make you money. Understanding this difference helps build wealth. Good investors spot trends, understand numbers, and get creative with financing. Kim suggests looking for unmet needs in your area and never using "I don't have money" as an excuse.   BEST MOMENTS "Women are really taught to depend upon somebody else for their financial wellbeing, be it a husband, be it a family member, be it the government... they definitely have not been encouraged to learn anything about money."  "They call me the queen of cash flow, I love cash flow, I'm all about cash flow... Get really, really good with numbers because numbers tell a story. I can look at the P and L of a property without ever seeing the property and know what's going on with that property."  "We have a rule. If you're going to buy a liability, you have to buy an asset to pay for the liability." "Central bank digital currency, CBDC... It's a way to control the population. They will see everything that you're buying... Oh, Kim, you donated money to so and so and we don't like that. So we're not going to give you that loan."      VALUABLE RESOURCES https://robmoore.com/ bit.ly/Robsupporter   https://robmoore.com/podbooks rob.team ABOUT THE HOST Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur” “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything” CONTACT METHOD Rob’s official website: https://robmoore.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robmooreprogressive/?ref=br_rs LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/robmoore1979   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Mar 6, 2025 • 11min

Why Dave Ramsey is WRONG About Debt and Money

robmoore.live/money Dave Ramsey says that all debt is wrong. In this episode, Rob and Brandon challenge this notion and also question the normalisation of certain debt in society. They also discuss the concepts of ‘good’ and ‘bad’ debt and how debt can be used in creative ways. KEY TAKEAWAYS Dave Ramsey’s comments on debt are probably in regards to the most common forms of debt for the average person, such as credit cards. Some debt is necessary, including to acquire property. If we avoided all debt, then business would be almost impossible as most businesses need loans to exist. Bad debt is when you use it to buy things you don’t need.   BEST MOMENTS "They’re wanting to access a level of lifestyle they can’t support with their finances” “I don’t like the consumerist mindset, I don’t like buying things that don’t have much of a value to them” “It would be almost impossible to transact in a business without a loan” “When you use debt to go out and acquire things that will get you more money, that’s a good thing”   VALUABLE RESOURCES https://robmoore.com/ bit.ly/Robsupporter   https://robmoore.com/podbooks rob.team ABOUT THE HOST Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur” “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything” CONTACT METHOD Rob’s official website: https://robmoore.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robmooreprogressive/?ref=br_rs LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/robmoore1979   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Mar 4, 2025 • 13min

Is Money Evil? | Rob with Mark Tilbury on Strike It Big Podcast

Rob and Mark Tilbury talk about the morality of money and why many of the things we are told about money are about control. They also discuss risk and safety around money and banking and Mark reveals what he doesn’t like about money.   KEY TAKEAWAYS We are told stories about money to control us and prevent us from being educated financially. Money is not evil; money is simply a tool to give you freedom. If money and the system were honest, then it would be transparent about inflation and reflect the true value of your money. If you have good debt, inflation actually helps you.    BEST MOMENTS "It fascinates me that people think money is evil” “From the age of 28 or 29 I had enough [money] that I was kind of free” “I’ve always thought the minimum you have to do to protect your money is you have to beat inflation”     VALUABLE RESOURCES https://robmoore.com/ bit.ly/Robsupporter   https://robmoore.com/podbooks rob.team ABOUT THE HOST Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “The Disruptive Entrepreneur” “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything” CONTACT METHOD Rob’s official website: https://robmoore.com/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robmooreprogressive/?ref=br_rs LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/robmoore1979   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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