

The Human Side of Money
Brendan Frazier
Are you ready to delve into the emotional side of money, enhance your practice, and forge deeper connections with your clients? The Human Side of Money Podcast offers actionable ideas and strategies to empower financial advisors with the skills needed to excel in understanding the behavioral aspects of finance. Join Chief Behavioral Officer Brendan Frazier as he shares invaluable insights, tips and strategies. Subscribe now to elevate your practice and client interactions!
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Jun 23, 2021 • 48min
26: Financial Therapy Skills 101 For Financial Advisors with Nathan Astle
As the value and future of advice continues to shift towards the intersection of technical knowledge and the human side of money, it has coincided with the rise of financial therapy.
Financial Therapy is focused on improving how clients think, feel, and behave with money to improve their well-being.
Nathan Astle, founder of Relational Money, helps advisors who don’t want to be full-fledged financial therapists develop and hone the most critical skills from financial therapy that lead to better connection, and ultimately, better outcomes.
We discuss:
“Financial Flashpoints” – what they are and why they are so critical to changing behavior
The “Money Timeline” exercise to help clients uncover their own financial flashpoints
Why money issues are rarely about money and the importance of finding the real issue
Two simple phrases you can use to facilitate communication and connection
How to effectively identify and label someone’s emotions
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Jun 9, 2021 • 1h 26min
25: Uncovering Your Client’s Most Meaningful Goals with Samantha Lamas
We’ve all been inundated with information showing how behavioral biases impact financial decision making. But far less attention has been given to the fact that these same biases can undermine the identification and prioritization of goals.
Research shows that there is indeed a gap between the goals clients think are important to them and the goals that are actually important. And that gap is forged by our biases and mental blind spots.
Samantha Lamas and her colleagues at Morningstar have conducted the research for us and explains the impact these biases have and what advisors can do to help clients uncover their most meaningful goals.
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May 26, 2021 • 1h 10min
24: Improving Client Decisions and Behavior Using Brain Science with Graeme Newell
One of the main challenges for financial advisors when it comes to applying behavioral finance is as simple as this: it’s a lot easier to construct a financial plan than to deconstruct your client’s emotions.
Graeme Newell has been helping financial advisors better understand what goes on in their client’s minds by literally putting them in brain scanners for most of his career.
And he takes the insights he learns and turns them into practical advice to improve client’s decisions and behavior.
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May 19, 2021 • 32min
23: The Best Question To Ask Prospects In A First Meeting
Research shows asking great questions builds trust, establishes likability, and uncovers valuable information.
Which is why asking great questions forms the foundation of a successful first meeting that converts a prospect into a lifelong client.
This episode is meant to be a guide for advisors to hone their question-asking abilities, so they can enhance client outcomes and forever change the trajectory of their business.
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May 12, 2021 • 1h 28min
22: Jay Mooreland | Applying Behavioral Finance Principles To Coach Clients and Differentiate Your Business
Ask any financial advisor if behavioral finance plays an important role in delivering ideal outcomes to clients, and you’ll get a resounding “Yes.”
Ask those same advisors if they know exactly what to say and do to seamlessly apply behavioral finance, and you’ll get a resounding “No!”
Knowing someone is suffering from loss-aversion helps explain why he or she behaved a certain way. But the effective application of behavioral finance tells you what to do about it. That’s where change occurs.
Jay Mooreland, founder of the Behavioral Finance Network, has been helping advisors apply behavioral finance in their practice for the better part of a decade (even before “behavioral finance” was cool!).
We discuss:
How to use a “Behavioral Plan Policy Statement” to facilitate ideal behavior
What effective behavioral coaching looks like and what most advisors get wrong
The often-overlooked benefit of differentiating your business when applying behavioral finance
The importance of coaching on one principle in every meeting
How proactive communication instills good behavior and ways to use it with clients
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Resources:
Joining The Behavioral Finance Network, Jay is offering a $75/month discount on his memberships for our listeners. Go to the membership page, and apply the coupon code “HSOM” at checkout.
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Apr 28, 2021 • 1h 39min
21: Travis Parry | A Research-Based Method To Actually Achieve Work/Life Balance
For most financial advisors, the idea of work/life balance is nothing more than an illusion. Especially for those who started, survived, and thrived in the profession based on a mindset that success was simply a numbers game.
Survival and success relied upon activity. There was a direct correlation between the amount of work you put in and the reward you received.
Travis Parry used to live this life. But, now, he’s using his research-backed method to show advisors how to, not only, achieve work/life balance, but thrive both at work and at home.
We discuss:
Regaining more time by conquering the three myths of time management
Why “balance” is misleading and a better way to think of it
Prioritizing your time according to your goals and values using a Business Ideal Calendar
The surprising results from his research on a crucial element to goal achievement and behavior change
How work/life balance better equips you for the human side of advice
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Apr 14, 2021 • 1h 31min
20: George Kinder | The Future of Financial Planning is Life Planning
Financial planning without any regard for the person’s dreams, values, and life they want to live is nothing more than numbers on paper.
A person’s dreams, values, and life they want to live without any regard for money is nothing more than a fantasy.
Life planning is simply connecting the client’s dreams and values with the strategies of financial planning that create the life of freedom that person has always envisioned.
Here’s what you’ll learn:
The two pieces of advice that George gives to anyone that wants to become a great listener
“The Pause” – the one skill he said every advisor should know and learn
The two things they train advisors to listen for to enhance the conversation
A deep dive into the famous three questions and the best practices for applying them
“Lighting The Torch” – the key step in the life planning process that ignites behavior change
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Mar 31, 2021 • 1h 29min
19: Brian Portnoy | Mapping Money To Meaning On The Path To Funded Contentment
There is zero correlation between the size of your bank account and the overall contentment and happiness of your life.
If you’ve worked with people and their finances long enough, you’ve seen it time and time again. But, once you can align money with meaning, you have the foundation of a happy, meaningful life.
Financial advisors excel at financial strategies but often fall short at helping clients illuminate the ingredients of a meaningful life. Brian Portnoy has spent decades writing, speaking and teaching on how to map money to meaning on the path to funded contentment.
We discuss:
A real, tangible definition of financial wellness or well-being
Using the “Four C’s” of contentment and the “7 Dimensions of Money Life” to map money to meaning
The conversations to have with clients to uncover their meaning
The behavioral and psychological challenges inherent with goals-based planning and why most advisors aren’t equipped for it
The dimensions of behavioral coaching beyond keeping your client invested in the market
And more!
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Mar 17, 2021 • 1h 43min
18: Sarah Newcomb | Understanding a Client’s Money Mindset In Order to Maximize Their Well-Being
The greatest barrier for every client isn’t lack of information. It’s their own mindset and behavior.
Whether it’s someone who overspends, someone who under-spends, someone who wants to sell out at the worst possible time, or even the person who never sends in the data you need, the key to changing their behavior starts with understanding their money mindset.
Sarah Newcomb, Director of Behavioral Science at Morningstar, joined the show to discuss how to better understand a client’s money mindset.
We discuss:
The framework she and her team developed to assess a client’s money mindset
The important distinction between financial and emotional well-being
The #1 predictor of savings behavior and how to help clients with it
Using a “What-If Journey” to help clients overcome their fears
How role models can play a powerful role in changing behavior and overall well-being
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Mar 3, 2021 • 1h 57min
17: Adrian Murphy | Delivering Human-First Financial Planning With A Chief Behavioral Officer
Adrian Murphy is the CEO of Murphy Wealth, a multi-award winning financial planning firm in the UK. Most recently, his firm made waves throughout the industry with the announcement that they were hiring a Chief Behavioral Officer as a part of their transition to a “human-first” strategy.
We discuss:
The decision to transition to a “human-first” strategy and what the vision looks like for the firm and for clients
The importance of getting clients from a “thinking” place to a “feeling” place and how to do it
The reason he intentionally avoids starting a question with the word “Why”
The listening workshops his firm goes through to hone their listening skills
How he came to the decision to hire a chief behavioral officer
What he envisions for the role of a Chief Behavioral Officer and the ways he expects it to benefit client outcomes and the growth of the firm
And more!
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