The Human Side of Money

What if retirement planning wasn’t just about saving but about learning how to spend? In Part 2 of The Human Side of Retirement,  Brendan Frazier continues his conversation with Dan Haylett to explore the emotional and psychological aspects of decumulation. They dig into the behavioral side of this transition, why a “save, save, save” mindset can hold clients back, and how to reframe retirement as a time to pursue fulfillment. And they offer practical strategies advisors can use to guide clients through this transition so retirement becomes not just a financial milestone, but a fulfilling new chapter. You’ll Learn:  Mastering the skill of spending money in retirement  Creating intentional spending habits to smooth the transition  Reframing the success rates of financial plans  The significance of the 50 to 70 “sweet spot” years for optimal life experiences  *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Connect with Brendan Frazier:  RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Dan Haylett:  Humans vs Retirement LinkedIn: Dan Haylett TFP Financial Planning About Our Guest:  Dan Haylett is the director, Head of Growth, and financial Planner at TFP Financial Planning. As a co-director of TFP, Dan’s “pull back the duvet every morning” purpose is helping our clients spend their time and money on what’s truly important. His passion for understanding and learning about the emotional, behavioural and financial challenges of life after work makes him a true specialist in helping clients have the freedom and confidence to take advantage of their ‘window of spending opportunity’ and live their best life. – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.

Retirement isn’t just about reaching a number – it’s a deeply personal transition that requires more than financial planning. By understanding what truly matters beyond the numbers, you can better support clients in creating meaningful and fulfilling retirements. In Part One of this episode, Dan Haylett emphasizes the importance of shifting the focus from financial figures to human connection, purpose, and lasting memories. And he walks through the Retirement Planning Workbook he uses with clients to help them live with purpose, joy and meaning in retirement You’ll Learn:  The importance of understanding the emotional aspects of retirement and his own experiences helping clients navigate this transition The revolutionary “Retirement Planning Workbook” he developed to address the human side of retirement How to help clients spend their savings meaningfully to create lasting memories *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Connect with Brendan Frazier:  RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Dan Haylett:  Humans vs Retirement LinkedIn: Dan Haylett TFP Financial Planning About Our Guest:  Dan Haylett is the director, Head of Growth, and financial Planner at TFP Financial Planning. As a co-director of TFP, Dan’s “pull back the duvet every morning” purpose is helping our clients spend their time and money on what’s truly important. His passion for understanding and learning about the emotional, behavioural and financial challenges of life after work makes him a true specialist in helping clients have the freedom and confidence to take advantage of their ‘window of spending opportunity’ and live their best life. – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.

Michael Lecours, a financial advisor and co-founder of fpPathfinder, shares his expertise on making the invisible value of financial planning more tangible. He discusses innovative strategies like using client journey maps and insights from marketing that highlight the emotional connections clients seek. Drawing parallels with a dental practice designed for anxious patients, he emphasizes understanding deeper motivations. Lecours also explores how effective communication can enhance client engagement and trust in the crowded finance sector.

The conversations you have with clients during uncertain markets are the most important you’ll ever have. Helping them safely and confidently navigate times like these is likely the single most important thing you’ll ever do… If you know how to do it! In this episode, Brendan walks through a 4-step framework to equip you with everything you need to confidently guide your clients through uncertain markets You’ll Learn: The critical mindset shift you must make before these conversations What goes on inside the mind of your clients when they call Why your charts and graphs are a waste of time (unless used correctly) *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Connect with Brendan Frazier:  RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.

Most advisors know they need to integrate the human element into their practice. But, it’s hard to decide WHAT to do and HOW to do it. Fortunately, Danielle Howard has successfully studied, tested and integrated the human element into her practice for over 30 years. And, through those years of learning and testing, she built the “Journey of Financial Health” process. In this conversation, Danielle reveals the steps of this process and how it helps her uncover client’s mindsets, beliefs, and identities around money. You’ll Learn: The role of identity in financial decisions The “Journey of Financial Health” Client Process The surveys she uses to facilitate deeper conversations A question to help clients focus on their financial “wins” How to run group workshops and hands-on client experiences *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Resources: “The Soul of Money” by Lynne Twist “Atomic Habits” by James Clear “The Body of Money” by Gayle Colman Connect with Brendan Frazier:  RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Danielle Howard:  Website: Danielle Howard CFP® LinkedIn: Danielle Howard, CFP® CKA® danielle@wbd4u.com 970-927-3909 About Our Guest:  As a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™ author, speaker and founder of Wealth By Design, LLC and Danielle Howard, CFP®, she is a catalyst for change around the financial tools, techniques and temperaments that construct a person’s financial life. She is a blogger, podcaster and outspoken advocate for people heading into their fall season of life. Bridging the gap between Wall Street and Main Street, she brings complex financial topics and concepts down to earth. She opens the door to new conversations around money. Her engaging workshop – “Financial Fingerprints to Footprints™” provides an opportunity for people to look at their mindsets around money and learn how to build on the wins or rewrite the scripts. With on-line tutorial opportunities and in person educational events, she brings a fresh perspective to the pecuniary world. – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.

Kathleen Burns Kingsbury, a wealth psychology expert and author of "Breaking Money Silence," shares her insights on the challenges of discussing finances. She highlights the generational silence around money and offers practical strategies to foster open conversations, especially for women. Personal anecdotes illustrate the empowerment gained from breaking these taboos. The discussion also covers family finances and the emotional complexities tied to wealth, emphasizing the importance of listening and understanding in financial dialogues.

Financial advice is no longer just about offering services—it’s about creating real, meaningful experiences for clients.  Because an experience unlike any other is the difference between a one-time sale and a lifelong client. You want to create experiences so exceptional that your clients aren’t even interested in hearing about an alternative.  And, they can’t wait to tell their friends and family about it. Fortunately, Dennis Moseley-Williams is a client experience guru and explains how to elevate your client experience to create raving fans and grow your business. You’ll Learn: Why efficiency is the executioner of experience Why all advisors need a secret belief to share with clients The important distinction between service and experience Lessons about the client experience from The Ritz-Carlton A social media experiment to enhance the client experience *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Connect with Brendan Frazier:  RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Dennis Moseley-Williams: Serious Shift | Inner Circle by DMW Strategic Consulting Dennis Moseley-Williams Strategic Consulting LinkedIn: Dennis Moseley-Williams About Our Guest:  Dennis is the founder of Dennis Moseley-Williams Strategic Consulting, a practice management company that helps organizations secure and build sustainable relationships by creating experience-driven solutions that deliver results, increase revenues, and build enthusiastic referral-generating communities. A certified expert in the Experience Economy, Dennis helps organizations understand that customer experience is the predominant economic offering in the world today and demonstrates ways in which experiences can be crafted and staged so that they entice, educate, satisfy and transform – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.

David Armstrong, President of Monument Wealth Management, shares insights from his experience at one of America's top RIA firms. He discusses the importance of aligning marketing, messaging, and meeting strategies to elevate client acquisition. Armstrong highlights the 'Monument Blueprint Process' for client engagement and how visual aids enhance discovery meetings. He also critiques traditional SEO approaches and emphasizes the shift to dynamic content strategies in a rapidly evolving advisory landscape.

Tom Pendergast, a writer and editor, shares his enlightening journey through the challenges of retirement. He discusses the stark contrast between his expectations and the reality of boredom after leaving a structured career. Tom reveals the identity shifts and struggles of finding a new purpose, recounting experiments he undertook to create a more fulfilling life. He also discusses the crucial role financial advisors can play in easing the transition, emphasizing the deep emotional complexities behind the numbers.

Dr. Daniel Crosby, a behavioral finance expert and author of "Soul of Wealth," discusses the deeper meanings behind money. He argues that money should be a tool for enhancing happiness, not just an end goal. Learn how to prioritize time over money and use gratitude to boost well-being. Crosby shares personal stories linking health and wealth and offers insights on how to cope with market uncertainty. He emphasizes that true wealth encompasses fulfillment and aligning spending with personal values.