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Mar 13, 2025 • 1h 49min

134: Turn Clients Into Raving Fans By Creating Memorable Experiences with Dennis Moseley-Williams

Financial advice is no longer just about offering services—it’s about creating real, meaningful experiences for clients.  Because an experience unlike any other is the difference between a one-time sale and a lifelong client. You want to create experiences so exceptional that your clients aren’t even interested in hearing about an alternative.  And, they can’t wait to tell their friends and family about it. Fortunately, Dennis Moseley-Williams is a client experience guru and explains how to elevate your client experience to create raving fans and grow your business. You’ll Learn: Why efficiency is the executioner of experience Why all advisors need a secret belief to share with clients The important distinction between service and experience Lessons about the client experience from The Ritz-Carlton A social media experiment to enhance the client experience *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Connect with Brendan Frazier:  RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Dennis Moseley-Williams: Serious Shift | Inner Circle by DMW Strategic Consulting Dennis Moseley-Williams Strategic Consulting LinkedIn: Dennis Moseley-Williams About Our Guest:  Dennis is the founder of Dennis Moseley-Williams Strategic Consulting, a practice management company that helps organizations secure and build sustainable relationships by creating experience-driven solutions that deliver results, increase revenues, and build enthusiastic referral-generating communities. A certified expert in the Experience Economy, Dennis helps organizations understand that customer experience is the predominant economic offering in the world today and demonstrates ways in which experiences can be crafted and staged so that they entice, educate, satisfy and transform – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.
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Feb 26, 2025 • 1h 42min

133: Creating A Visual Discovery Meeting Experience with David Armstrong

David Armstrong, President of Monument Wealth Management, shares insights from his experience at one of America's top RIA firms. He discusses the importance of aligning marketing, messaging, and meeting strategies to elevate client acquisition. Armstrong highlights the 'Monument Blueprint Process' for client engagement and how visual aids enhance discovery meetings. He also critiques traditional SEO approaches and emphasizes the shift to dynamic content strategies in a rapidly evolving advisory landscape.
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Feb 12, 2025 • 1h 36min

132: The Search For Purpose and Meaning In Retirement with Tom Pendergast

Tom Pendergast, a writer and editor, shares his enlightening journey through the challenges of retirement. He discusses the stark contrast between his expectations and the reality of boredom after leaving a structured career. Tom reveals the identity shifts and struggles of finding a new purpose, recounting experiments he undertook to create a more fulfilling life. He also discusses the crucial role financial advisors can play in easing the transition, emphasizing the deep emotional complexities behind the numbers.
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Jan 29, 2025 • 1h 20min

131: The Soul of Wealth: Connecting Money and Meaning with Dr. Daniel Crosby

Dr. Daniel Crosby, a behavioral finance expert and author of "Soul of Wealth," discusses the deeper meanings behind money. He argues that money should be a tool for enhancing happiness, not just an end goal. Learn how to prioritize time over money and use gratitude to boost well-being. Crosby shares personal stories linking health and wealth and offers insights on how to cope with market uncertainty. He emphasizes that true wealth encompasses fulfillment and aligning spending with personal values.
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Jan 15, 2025 • 1h 24min

130: Behavioral Finance Ideas Proven To Enhance Client Outcomes with Dan Egan

As Betterment’s Director of Behavioral Science, Dan Egan knows that understanding human behavior is key to your client’s financial success. But knowing that’s true and knowing what to do about it are two different things. There are a lot of opinions thrown around in the behavioral finance space on what works and what doesn’t. And you probably don’t want to “test” some of these ideas on clients you hope to work with for 10-30 years. For years, Dan has been testing behavioral finance interventions to figure out what actually works (and what is a waste of time). In this episode, he reveals proven ideas you can implement to enhance your client’s outcomes without having to go through your own trial-and-error process. What You’ll Learn: How to frame taxes to prevent impulsive decisions How visualizing goals makes saving more consistent Why you should NOT engage clients during a market downturn How robo-advisors actually enhance the value of human advisors The two types of clients most likely to panic during market volatility *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Resources: “Siddhartha” by Hermann Hesse “Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance” by Robert M. Pirsig “Atomic Habits” by James Clear 30 Lessons for Living by Karl Pillemer, Ph. D. Research by Dilip Soman Research by Eric Johnson Research by Abby Sussman Michael Kitces Connect with Brendan Frazier:  RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Daniel P. Egan: LinkedIn: Daniel P. Egan Betterment Advisor Solutions About Our Guest:  Dan Egan is a behavioral finance professional and the Director of Behavioral Science at Betterment. With years of experience applying behavioral principles to financial technology, Dan focuses on improving client outcomes by helping people make better decisions, especially during stressful times. His work highlights the powerful intersection of psychology and technology in shaping the future of financial advice. – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.
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Dec 31, 2024 • 1h 16min

129: The Best Ideas and Insights from 2024

Reflecting on 2024's transformative conversations, the focus is on enhancing client relationships through trust and effective communication. Discover the power of vulnerability and emotional intelligence in financial discussions. Techniques for engaging clients include inviting information and observing behavioral cues. Rediscovery meetings play a crucial role in forging deeper connections, while sharing personal 'why stories' fosters meaningful bonds. The aim is to connect clients' motivations with financial advice for a brighter future.
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Dec 11, 2024 • 1h 25min

128: The 3 R’s of Relationship Marketing with Bill Cates

“If you’re not relevant, you’re ignored. If you’re not compelling, you’re forgotten.” Bill Cates, the “OG” of relationship marketing, knows that genuine connections are the heart of a thriving and growing practice. But with technology constantly reshaping how we connect, how do you still leverage a human connection? For decades, Bill has mastered the art of building trust, creating relevance, and fostering relationships that lead to referrals. And, in this episode, he shares the 3 R’s of relationship marketing and how they remove friction from the prospecting process and pave the way to exponential growth for your practice. What You’ll Learn: The #1 barrier to getting more referrals Brain-based tips for crafting messages that stick Why focusing on a niche can fuel massive growth Why “introductions” beat referrals—and how to ask for them How storytelling creates emotional connections that inspire action *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Resources: Books by Bill Cates “The Language of Referrals” by Bill Cates, CSP, CPAE “Radical Relevance” by Bill Cates, CSP, CPAE “Atomic Habits” by James Clear “Same as Ever: A Guide to What Never Changes” by Morgan Housel Connect with Brendan Frazier:  RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Bill Cates: LinkedIn: Bill Cates, The Original Referral Coach Referral Coach Top Advisor Podcast with Bill Cates, CSP, CPAE About Our Guest:  Bill Cates is a renowned author, speaker, and coach specializing in relationship marketing and client acquisition strategies. With decades of experience, he has helped thousands of advisors and businesses refine their approach to building relevance, creating emotional connections, and generating referrals. Bill’s work combines timeless marketing principles with modern tools to help advisors grow their practices and make meaningful connections with clients. – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice. Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.
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Nov 27, 2024 • 1h 38min

127: Preparing Your Clients and Practice for Behavioral Finance 3.0 with Meir Statman

Meir Statman, a trailblazer in behavioral finance, says: “Financial well-being underlies life well-being.” Advisors know their clients want to feel happy and fulfilled and make decisions aligned with their values.  But weaving that into financial advice? That’s the challenge. And, that’s the next frontier for behavioral finance. Meir has witnessed every generation of behavioral finance up to this point. And, in this episode, he shares how advisors can prepare their clients and their practice for the shift to Behavioral Finance 3.0. What You’ll Learn: Why every client needs a diversified “life” portfolio The 3 benefits people derive from spending money Why your neighbor’s finances impact your own well-being The journey from “standard” finance to Behavioral Finance 3.0 The #1 way to improve well-being (That has nothing to do with money) *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Resources: “Thinking, Fast and Slow” by Daniel Kahneman Connect with Brendan Frazier:  RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Meir Statman:  LinkedIn: Meir Statman “A Wealth of Well-Being: A Holistic Approach to Behavioral Finance” by Meir Statman SSRN About Our Guest:  Meir Statman is a leading behavioral finance authority and a finance professor at Santa Clara University. His groundbreaking research bridges traditional finance with psychology, offering insights into how emotions and biases impact financial decision-making. Meir’s work encourages advisors to focus on client well-being and life satisfaction, making him a pioneer in helping people use their finances to support meaningful and fulfilling lives. He’s also the author of A Wealth of Well-Being, where he explores the role of behavioral finance in guiding financial choices that promote happiness. – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy.  Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice.  Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place.  RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.
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Nov 13, 2024 • 1h 31min

126: Love & Money: The Keys To Financial Success As A Couple with Doug and Heather Boneparth

Does money talk strengthen your relationship—or strain it? Doug and Heather Boneparth, a dynamic husband-wife team and experienced financial advisors, share the inside scoop on what makes relationships tick—financially and emotionally. Drawing from personal experience, they reveal practical ways for couples to redefine financial responsibilities, appreciate non-monetary contributions, and set shared goals for the future. For advisors, Doug and Heather break down how to create balanced, inclusive conversations that engage both partners, tackling emotional undercurrents to strengthen relationships along the way. What You’ll Learn: Tools to create inclusive, balanced financial discussions Guidance for couples on shared financial decision-making Techniques to spot and resolve financial resentments before they escalate Ideas for planning meaningful “money dates” that foster future-focused conversations Strategies to redefine financial contributions, helping couples align on long-term goals *To sign up for Brendan’s newsletter packed with resources to master the human side of advice → Click Here Resources: 116: The Financial Advisor’s Guide To Love And Money with Sonya Lutter The Psychology of Money by Morgan Housel Fair Play by Eve Rodsky The Millennial Money Fix by Douglas Boneparth Connect with Brendan Frazier:  RFG Advisory LinkedIn: Brendan Frazier Connect with Douglas A. Boneparth:  LinkedIn: Douglas A. Boneparth, CFP® Bone Fide Wealth Connect with Heather Boneparth:  LinkedIn: Heather Boneparth Bone Fide Wealth Joelle Boneparth About Our Guests:  Doug and Heather Boneparth are the co-founders of Bone Fide Wealth, a firm specializing in helping millennials and young couples manage their finances. Doug is a Certified Financial Planner and author with a deep commitment to making personal finance approachable. Heather, having taken a step back from her active role in finances during the pandemic, brings valuable insights into balancing household contributions and facilitating effective financial conversations between partners. Together, they bridge personal and professional experience to bring empathy and practicality into financial advising. – Content here is for illustrative purposes and general information only. It is not legal, tax, or individualized financial advice; nor is it a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold any specific security, or engage in any specific trading strategy. Information here may be provided, in part, by third-party sources. These sources are generally deemed to be reliable; however, neither our guest nor RFG Advisory guarantee the accuracy of third-party sources. The views expressed here are those of our guest. They do not necessarily represent those of RFG Advisory, its employees, or its clients. This commentary should not be regarded as a description of advisory services provided by RFG Advisory, or performance returns of any client. The views reflected in the commentary are subject to change at any time without notice.  Securities offered by Registered Representatives of Private Client Services. Member FINRA / SIPC. Advisory services offered by Investment Advisory Representatives of RFG Advisory, LLC (“RFG Advisory” or “RFG”), a registered investment advisor. Private Client Services and RFG Advisory are unaffiliated entities. Advisory services are only offered to clients or prospective clients where RFG Advisory and its representatives are properly licensed or exempt from licensure. No advisory services may be rendered by RFG Advisory unless a client agreement is in place. RFG Advisory is an SEC-registered investment adviser. SEC registration does not constitute an endorsement of RFG by the Commission, nor does it indicate that RFG or any associated investment advisory representative has attained a particular level of skill or ability.
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Nov 1, 2024 • 1h 17min

125: Building A Screening Process To Identify Perfect-Fit Prospects Ready To Act with Dr. Meghaan Lurtz

Dr. Meghaan Lurtz, a leading expert on the psychology of financial planning and partner at Shaping Wealth, discusses the art of identifying perfect-fit prospects. She reveals how most prospects aren’t ready for advice and shares the best questions to ask during screening. Understanding the client’s mindset before meetings is crucial, as is fostering trust and meaningful conversations. Meghaan emphasizes the balance of personal connection and technology in improving client engagement and offers strategies for creating an effective screening process.

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