
China Tech Investor
The China Tech Investor podcast is a weekly show featuring Elliott Zaagman, writer and contributor to TechNode, and James Hull, a professional investor.
Each week, the two look at their watchlist and talk about what's happening with listed Chinese tech companies
Latest episodes

Sep 2, 2019 • 53min
34: Alibaba, JD, and the new retail revolution with Michael Zakkour
In this episode of the China Tech Investor Podcast powered by TechNode, the guys go deep into new retail. In addition to discussing the latest quarterly earnings from Alibaba and JD, James and Elliott chat with Michael Zakkour, VP of Asia Strategy for Thompkins International. Michael fills us in on the phenomenon of “new retail,” why it is so much more than just a buzz word, and how it is changing business and life in China and around the world.
Please note, the hosts may have interest in some of the stocks discussed. The discussion should not be construed as investment advice or a solicitation of services.
Get the PDF of the China Consumer Index.
UPDATE: Alibaba’s USD 2 billion acquisition of NetEase’s cross-border e-commerce site is off, reports say
Watchlist:
Tencent
Alibaba
Baidu
iQiyi
Xiaomi
JD.com
Pinduoduo
Meituan-Dianping
Guest
Michael Zakkour
Hosts:
Elliott Zaagman– @elliottzaagman
James Hull– @jameshullx
Editor
Peter Isachenko
Podcast information:
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Music: “Hey Ho” by Steve Jackson, Royalty Free Music

Sep 2, 2019 • 54min
33: 2019 year-to-date for China’s tech stocks: Meituan surges, Baidu slumps, and more
In this episode of the China Tech Investor Podcast powered by TechNode, James and Elliott take a step back and look at the broader trends of 2019 thus far. They also take a look at how each of the stocks on their watch list have performed thus far this year, and attempt to determine where credit or blame should be given for each stock’s performance.
Please note, the hosts may have interest in some of the stocks discussed. The discussion should not be construed as investment advice or a solicitation of services.
Get the China Consumer Index slides here.
Watchlist:
· Tencent
· Alibaba
· Baidu
· iQiyi
· Xiaomi
· JD.com
· Pinduoduo
· Meituan-Dianping
Hosts:
· Elliott Zaagman – @elliottzaagman
· James Hull – @jameshullx
Editor
· Peter Isachenko
Podcast information:
· iTunes
· Spotify
· RSS Feed
· Music: “Hey Ho” by Steve Jackson, Royalty Free Music

Aug 9, 2019 • 52min
32: What's special about Bilibili?
In this episode, recorded August 2nd, 2019 hosts Elliott Zaagman and James Hull look at Bilibili (Nasdaq: BILI). They discuss what Bilibili does, who runs it and are joined by a Bilibili user, Erica Shen, who shares her views as a user of the platform. After the interview with Erica, James and Elliott look at Bilibili’s financials.
Bilibili's gamified user ladder
The China Tech Investor podcast is powered by Technode.
Please note, the hosts may have interest in some of the stocks discussed. The discussion should not be construed as investment advice or a solicitation of services.
CTI watchlist
Tencent
Alibaba
Baidu
iQiyi
Xiaomi
JD.com
Pinduoduo
Meituan-Dianping
Guest
Erica Shen (Linkedin)
Hosts:
Elliott Zaagman (@elliottzaagman)
James Hull (@jameshullx, Hullx.com)
Editor
Peter Isachenko
Podcast links
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Music
“Hey Ho” by Steve Jackson, Royalty Free Music

Jul 30, 2019 • 1h 17min
31: AI competitiveness: How Chinese and US firms stack up
In this episode of the China Tech Investor Podcast powered by TechNode, James and Elliott chat with Matt Sheehan, Fellow at Macro Polo, the in-house think tank of the Paulson Institute. Matt discusses some of his recent research, in which he analyses how US and Chinese firms stack up in various dimensions of data. He also shares his findings on the battle for AI engineers, and how each country’s AI future may rely on Chinese talent, on both sides of the Pacific.
Also, be sure to check out Matt’s upcoming book: The Transpacific Experiment: How China and California Collaborate and Compete for Our Future, out August 13th.
Please note, the hosts may have interest in some of the stocks discussed. The discussion should not be construed as investment advice or a solicitation of services.
Watchlist:
Tencent
Alibaba
Baidu
iQiyi
Xiaomi
JD.com
Pinduoduo
Meituan-Dianping
Guests:
Matt Sheehan - @mattsheehan88
Hosts:
Elliott Zaagman – @elliottzaagman
James Hull – @jameshullx
Editor
Peter Isachenko
Podcast information:
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Music: “Hey Ho” by Steve Jackson, Royalty Free Music

Jul 5, 2019 • 1h 18min
30: A peek inside China’s banking industry with Trivium China’s Andrew Polk
In this episode, recorded June 27th, 2019 hosts Elliott Zaagman and James Hull are joined by Andrew Polk, Trivium China Partner and Head of Econ. They discuss developments and events in China’s banking system and how they may impact investors. The discussion also covers the recent Baoshang bank takeover, the rise in interbank yield spreads, and more.
The China Tech Investor podcast is powered by Technode.
Please note, the hosts may have interest in some of the stocks discussed. The discussion should not be construed as investment advice or a solicitation of services.
Watchlist:
Tencent
Alibaba
Baidu
iQiyi
Xiaomi
JD.com
Pinduoduo
Meituan-Dianping
Guests:
Andrew Polk — Trivium China
Hosts:
Elliott Zaagman – @elliottzaagman
James Hull – @jameshullx
Editor
Peter Isachenko
Podcast information:
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Music: “Hey Ho” by Steve Jackson, Royalty Free Music

Jun 24, 2019 • 1h 8min
29: India’s tech landscape, with Dev Lewis
In this episode of the China Tech Investor Podcast powered by TechNode, James and Elliott chat with Dev Lewis, Research Associate at Digital Asia Hub and Yanqing Scholar at Peking University. Dev has written and focused extensively on the intersection of US and Chinese tech firms as they compete in India’s rapidly developing digital ecosystem. In this podcast, the guys talk about what makes India unique as a market, and the homegrown businesses, trends, and government policies that are impacting the way that foreign firms, including Chinese tech firms on our watchlist, approach doing business in what will soon be the world’s most populous nation.
Please note, the hosts may have interest in some of the stocks discussed. The discussion should not be construed as investment advice or a solicitation of services.
Watchlist:
Tencent
Alibaba
Baidu
iQiyi
Xiaomi
JD.com
Pinduoduo
Meituan-Dianping
Guests:
Dev Lewis - @Devlewis18
Hosts:
Elliott Zaagman – @elliottzaagman
James Hull – @jameshullx
Editor
Peter Isachenko
Podcast information:
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Music: “Hey Ho” by Steve Jackson, Royalty Free Music

Jun 21, 2019 • 1h 10min
28: Earnings dive — 1Q 2019 iQiyi and Tencent
In this episode, recorded June 14th, 2019 hosts Elliott Zaagman and James Hull discuss recent events in Hong Kong, proposed US legislation upping pressure on Hong Kong, and get into iQiyi and Tencent’s 1Q 2019 earnings (see James’ blog for corresponding charts).
The China Tech Investor podcast is powered by Technode.
Please note, the hosts may have interest in some of the stocks discussed. The discussion should not be construed as investment advice or a solicitation of services.
Watchlist:
Tencent
Alibaba
Baidu
iQiyi
Xiaomi
JD.com
Pinduoduo
Meituan-Dianping
Hosts:
· Elliott Zaagman – @elliottzaagman
· James Hull – @jameshullx, longhedge blog
Editor
Peter Isachenko
Podcast information:
· iTunes
· Spotify
· RSS Feed
· Music: “Hey Ho” by Steve Jackson, Royalty Free Music

Jun 11, 2019 • 51min
27: Alibaba’s earnings and is this the end of the “China Hustle?”
In this episode of the China Tech Investor Podcast powered by TechNode, James and Elliott dig into the quarterly earnings of Alibaba. They also discuss the trade war’s latest impact on markets, and the proposed legislation which would require Chinese firms listing in the US to undergo American auditing standards.
Please note, the hosts may have interest in some of the stocks discussed. The discussion should not be construed as investment advice or a solicitation of services.
Watchlist:
Tencent
Alibaba
Baidu
iQiyi
Xiaomi
JD.com
Pinduoduo
Meituan-Dianping
Hosts:
Elliott Zaagman – @elliottzaagman
James Hull – @jameshullx
Editor
Peter Isachenko
Podcast information:
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Music: “Hey Ho” by Steve Jackson, Royalty Free Music

Jun 6, 2019 • 1h 2min
26: Baidu’s unprofitable quarter and Pinduoduo keeps burning money
In this episode of the China Tech Investor Podcast powered by TechNode, James and Elliott discuss the quarterly earnings reports of Baidu and Pinduoduo. For the quarter since their IPO in 2005, Baidu failed to report a profit, in the latest in what has been a disappointing string of events for the company known best for its popular search engine. For Pinduoduo, marketing expenses keep increasing, but are those investments paying off for the company?
Please. note, the hosts may have interest in some of the stocks discussed. The discussion should not be construed as investment advice or a solicitation of services.
Watchlist:
Tencent
Alibaba
Baidu
iQiyi
Xiaomi
JD.com
Pinduoduo
Meituan-Dianping
Hosts:
Elliott Zaagman – @elliottzaagman
James Hull – @jameshullx
Podcast information:
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Music: “Hey Ho” by Steve Jackson, Royalty Free Music

May 30, 2019 • 42min
25: Live from Emerge—Huawei on the US Entities list with Paul Mozur
In this special *live* episode, recorded May 23rd, 2019 at Technode’s inaugural Emerge event, hosts Elliott Zaagman and James Hull are joined by Paul Mozur, a technology reporter with the New York Times who covers tech companies, cybersecurity, censorship and the intersection of geopolitics and technology in Asia. What better to discuss with him than the “elephant in the room:” US Commerce Department adding Huawei to the Entities List?
The discussion around Huawei covers whether Huawei can survive being on the Entities List, Huawei’s consumer devices versus networking equipment, CFIUS, which companies are impacted, which companies could benefit the most, Google & Android OS, and features live Q&A from the audience.
The China Tech Investor podcast is powered by Technode.
Note: the hosts and guest do not claim ownership of the truth in the matters discussed. This was recorded before the President Trump tweet that suggested Huawei is on the table in the trade deal negotiations.
Please note, the hosts may have interest in some of the stocks discussed. The discussion should not be construed as investment advice or a solicitation of services.
Watchlist:
Tencent
Alibaba
Baidu
iQiyi
Xiaomi
JD.com
Pinduoduo
Meituan-Dianping
Guests:
Paul Mozur – The New York Times
Hosts:
Elliott Zaagman – @elliottzaagman
James Hull – @jameshullx
Editor
Peter Isachenko
Podcast information:
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Music: “Hey Ho” by Steve Jackson, Royalty Free Music