
Boardroom Talks
Boardroom Talks brings fans inside the careers and conversations of some of the world's most fascinating thought leaders, including entrepreneurs, athletes, and entertainers. The show is dedicated to bringing impactful conversations from trailblazers across the sports and entertainment landscape. Never-before-heard stories, entrepreneurial advice, and unparalleled access bring you inside the Boardroom universe.
Latest episodes

May 25, 2022 • 1h 5min
Episode 67: Gary Vee Joins Rich Kleiman In The First Ever Boardroom Cover Story
The inaugural Veecon conference took over Minnesota last weekend and in this episode of Out Of Office, Rich and Gianni discuss Rich's trip to Minnesota where he took the Veecon stage as a speaker before traveling to landmarks spaces in Minneapolis including a trip to Paisley Park with Spike Lee. Then, the podcast dives into a conversation with none other than Gary Vaynerchuk himself. Gary Vee has lived many lives as an entrepreneur, marketer, and social media dynamo -- physical lives, that is. Meanwhile, in the reality of the virtual, it may be that the 45-year-old is just beginning to hit his futurist stride as the world of Web3 grows in both relevance and resonance. This episode of the inaugural Boardroom cover story includes a wide-ranging conversation in which Vaynerchuk goes deep on how he's managed to be years ahead on technological trends, the popularity and promise of NFT platforms and his broader vision for the future.

May 11, 2022 • 39min
Episode 66: Rich and Gianni Take Miami
On this week's episode of Out Of Office, Rich and Gianni are fresh off their return from the Miami Grand Prix. The duo covers several topics including the atmosphere and starpower around Miami's first-ever F1 event, Kendrick Lamar's breathtaking new music video, HBO's finale of Winning Time, and the current climate of our stock market and NFTs. The duo also discusses which city deserves a new WNBA team, Dave Chapelle being attacked on stage, the NBA playoffs, and what Rich's got planned for an exciting summer.

Apr 27, 2022 • 1h 11min
Wes Moore Joins The Boardroom
Wes Moore is a United States Army veteran, author, entrepreneur, and producer who is now running for Governor of Maryland. He joins Rich Kleiman and Gianni Harrell in this week's Out Of Office podcast to talk about his upbringing, including dealing with the loss of his father as well as going off to military school and the trials, learning curves and ultimate accountability he faced. Moore reflects on his time at Oxford and how, later, his career in finance left him with a sense of obligation to serve his country. Moore draws from his combat experience to analyze what is currently happening in Ukraine. Lastly, Moore touches on how his life's work led him to become CEO of the Robin Hood Foundation and, ultimately, to his new path in politics.

Apr 13, 2022 • 1h 21min
Episode 64: Wrapping Up The NBA Season With Kevin Durant And The ETCs
Kevin Durant and his ETCs co-host Eddie Gonzalez join Rich this week in a new episode of Out Of Office heading into the Play-In Tournament. The trio discusses how both athletes and fans recover from tough losses and social media's impact on it all. Kevin speaks on discovering his interest in the NBA in the late '90s and how his player-driven interest still defines how he watches today's game, which causes the guys to each call out their favorite Jason Williams highlight. Also discussed in the pod are NBA fixtures whose legacies are bigger than their stats might suggest. Lastly, Durant reflects on his approach to the postseason, speaks on why it's pointless to hate on the play-in concept and Rich shares why he thinks the pressure in the playoffs doesn't change KD's game day routines.

Mar 30, 2022 • 1h 28min
Episode 63: CEO and founder of Spartan and the Death Race Joe De Sena
Joe De Sena grew up in New York City in a neighborhood and a life reminiscent of the movie "Goodfellas." In the pod, the two native New Yorkers discuss how in the early 70s De Sena's mother's transition into a more zen lifestyle turned his world upside down and how an opportunity to clean a pool made way for one of his first-ever business ventures. His hustle led to an unlikely admittance to Cornell and a career on Wall Street. There he encountered greed that drove a change in his priorities, leading him to create Spartan Race. Finally, De Sena shares the long road to launching a global brand, how he's handled adversity, and what's next, including his new CNBC show “No Retreat: Business Bootcamp.”

Mar 16, 2022 • 39min
Episode 62: Animal Style with Rich and Gianni
On this week's Out Of Office podcast, Rich and Gianni discuss a whirlwind trip to SXSW that included a terrifying plane ride, the influx of NBA superstars putting up huge performances this week, and how KD's statements are sometimes misinterpreted across media outlets. The guys also dive into the news of Tom Brady's un-retirement, how Russell Wilson's resurgence will be huge for the Broncos, and what the Giants still need to succeed. With so much buzzing around the documentary space, Rich and Gianni dig into their favorite docs of the past, present, and future.

Mar 2, 2022 • 37min
Episode 61: Checking In With Rich and Gianni
On the newest episode of the Out Of Office podcast, co-hosts Rich Kleiman and Gianni Harrell chop it up on all things Jeen-Yuhs, the newest Netflix documentary highlighting the life and rise of Kanye West. The two also dive into other things they're watching from Euphoria and The Gilded Age on HBO Max to debating who the 'real' Batman is ahead of the next feature film's impending release. Also highlighted in the pod is Rich's takes on current events as well as Ja Morant the NBA's next generation of stars, and how there's nothing better than Sundays at Madison Square Garden.

Feb 16, 2022 • 1h 10min
Episode 60: Venture Capital Pioneer Alan Patricof
Alan Patricof is a businessman, entrepreneur and one of the American pioneers of venture capital. In the latest episode of Out Of Office, he discusses growing up on the Upper West Side in Manhattan and dipping his toes in entrepreneurship for the first time as a young child selling magazines in the neighborhood. He speaks to Rich Kleiman about starting his early career on Wall Street before the term "venture capital" was even coined and pivoting to investing professionally in the 70s. The two discuss Patricof's new book "No Red Lights," exploring why he decided to write this book now and how writing it in his 80s sends a message that regardless of age, you can still continue to live life to the fullest.

Feb 2, 2022 • 50min
Episode 59: NASCAR Cup Series Driver, Bubba Wallace
Bubba Wallace is not only the first Black driver to win a Cup Series race since Wendell Scott in 1963, he’s also the first driver for Michael Jordan’s 23XI Racing team. In this episode of Out Of Office, Bubba discusses the roots that led him to the racetrack, how he developed the commitment to the sport, how the sponsorship landscape opened up for him in recent years and how and where NASCAR’s diversity initiatives still have room to grow.

Jan 19, 2022 • 1h 23min
Episode 58: Founder and CEO of LionTree, Aryeh B. Bourkoff
Aryeh Bourkoff is a highly sought-after investor and advisor to CEOs and founders, supporting them with advice, relationships and capital as they seek to build and transform their businesses to succeed in a rapidly evolving, increasingly digital market landscape. In this episode of Out Of Office, Aryeh discusses his approach to entrepreneurship, the future of cryptocurrency, NFTs and the metaverse, and future goals for his life and career on Wall Street. Aryeh is also the host of the podcast Kindredcast, which fans can check out at Kindredmedia.com.
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