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Payments Pros – The Payments Law Podcast

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Nov 9, 2023 • 20min

Senators Urge CFPB to Increase Consumer Protection Against Payment App Scams

This episode of Payments Pros spotlights an episode from The Crypto Exchange, where Kalama Lui-Kwan joins Payments Pros hosts Keith Barnett and Carlin McCrory to discuss consumer protection under Regulation E. They delve into a July 2022 letter from Democratic senators, urging the CFPB to hold banks liable for consumer losses when the consumers provide alleged fraudsters with access to their own accounts through payment apps. Keith and Carlin examine the senators' concerns and the potential significant impact on financial institutions from any changes that the CFPB makes.
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Oct 25, 2023 • 32min

Chronic Payments: Unraveling the Complexities of Cannabis Banking

In the latest episode of Payments Pros, hosts Keith Barnett and Carlin McCrory are joined by Jean Gonnell and Agustin Rodriguez, co-leaders of Troutman Pepper’s Cannabis practice, to discuss the legal complexities that financial institutions face when dealing with the cannabis industry.Jean and Agustin give a high-level overview of the basics of cannabis, including federal and state regulations, and the specific expectations for financial institutions operating in this space. They also explain the rigorous state-level regulatory systems for marijuana, including seed-to-sale tracking, testing requirements, and security measures.Our guests examine the impact of cannabis regulation on financial institutions. They discuss the challenges posed by the Bank Secrecy Act, money transmitter laws, and the Money Laundering Control Act for financial institutions serving marijuana-related businesses.Our Cannabis Practice provides advice on issues related to applicable federal and state law. Marijuana remains an illegal controlled substance under federal law.
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Oct 5, 2023 • 24min

Unraveling the Legal Threads: A Deep Dive Into Earned Wage Access

In the latest episode of Payments Pros, hosts Keith Barnett, Josh McBeain, and Carlin McCrory discuss Earned Wage Access (EWA), a system that allows employees to receive their earned wages before the employer's payroll cycle.Keith, Josh, and Carlin delve into the potentially applicable federal laws related to EWA, starting with the Truth in Lending Act (TILA). They discuss the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's (CFPB) advisory opinion on EWA products and the confusion it caused in the industry. They also discuss other federal laws that may apply to EWA products, such as the Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA), the Military Lending Act (MLA), Regulation E, and the Payday Lending Rule.In addition to the federal laws, Keith, Josh, and Carlin discuss state lending and licensing laws, and highlight recent state EWA laws and regulatory activity related to EWA, including laws passed in Missouri and Nevada, advisory opinions issued in Arizona and Maryland, and EWA activity in California.Finally, the group also discusses enforcement issues related to EWA, including the rescinding of a no-action letter by the CFPB and the potential for enforcement under state laws.
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Sep 21, 2023 • 35min

ACH Risk for Payment Processors and ODFIs

In this discussion, James Rowe and Nanci McKenzie from Affirmative Technologies share their expertise in ACH processing and risk management. They dive into the importance of ACH risk monitoring and the need for predictive models to evaluate originator risks. The duo also introduces their innovative ACH risk scoring tool, akin to a FICO score, to help financial institutions manage unauthorized transaction risks effectively. Key insights revolve around regulatory expectations and the evolution of risk management in the fast-paced payments landscape.
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Sep 5, 2023 • 18min

Evaluating Government Sanctions in the Payments Industry

In this episode of Payments Pros, Keith Barnett welcomes his colleagues Rich Zack and Christy Tuttle to discuss how U.S. government sanction programs impact payment processors, banks, and the payments industry in general.Keith, Rich, and Christy discuss the current atmosphere of sanctions in the payments industry and the recent joint guidance issued to banks by the OCC, the Fed, and FDIC. The guidance instructs banks on the regulators' expectations during bank examinations concerning third-party relationships, including payment processors, card issuers, blockchain, and anyone who has a form of bank partnership. The guidance covers initial due diligence, risk assessment, monitoring, ongoing due diligence, and termination of the relationship. Noncompliance with these requirements has led to sanctions against banks, payment processors, card issuers, and money transmitters.Keith, Rich, and Christy also discuss the role of the Office of Foreign Asset Control (OFAC) in enforcing sanctions, particularly in light of the war in Ukraine, as well as the other agencies that enforce sanctions. Lastly, they also discuss what companies in the payments space can do to avoid violating sanctions, and what they should do if a violation is discovered.
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Aug 17, 2023 • 21min

FedNow Is Here!

In this episode of Payments Pros, Carlin McCrory welcomes Stout’s Disputes, Compliance, and Investigations Managing Director Terri Sands to discuss the evolvement in payments and the launch of FedNow.Carlin and Terri discuss how FedNow will affect financial institutions, as well how they see businesses and consumers utilizing the service. Additionally, with this new evolvement in the payments space, financial institutions using FedNow need to be cautious of fraud. Terri discusses how Stout is working with their financial institution clients to implement FedNow, developing strategic planning documents for approaching next generation fraud, and getting management buy-in on the necessary fraud protections.
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Aug 3, 2023 • 23min

Analyzing the Credit Card Competition Act of 2023

In this episode of Payments Pros, Josh McBeain welcomes Isaac Boltansky, managing director and director of policy research at BTIG to discuss the proposed Credit Card Competition Act led by Senator Durbin from Illinois.Josh and Isaac discuss the intricacies of the proposed legislation and how it would affect issuers, merchants, and consumers. Additionally, they address some of the skepticism that the bill is receiving from those in the industry and challenges that may come with the legislation.
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Jul 27, 2023 • 27min

Payments and the Solar Industry

In this episode of Payments Pros, Josh McBeain welcomes his colleague Andrew Thurmond to discuss residential solar projects as well as the financing and payment options that are available for these types of projects.With renewable energy being a hot topic now, solar providers have multiple payment options to facilitate solar projects, including loans, retail installment contracts, leases, power purchase agreements, and tax credits. Josh and Andrew discuss these options and what to consider before developing solar payment programs for consumers.
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Jul 11, 2023 • 21min

CFPB's Larger Participant Rule for Consumer Payments

In this discussion, experts unpack the CFPB's larger participant rule for consumer payments and its significance for the payments industry. They explore the Bureau's growing supervision, revealing the impact on consumer protections and the rise in payment complaints. The conversation highlights the potential regulatory reach over P2P platforms and how UDAP enforcement could reshape payment processing standards. Finally, they anticipate compliance challenges ahead and stress the need for robust systems to prepare for forthcoming regulatory changes.
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Jun 27, 2023 • 19min

Convenience Fees: Why You Need to Pay Attention?

This edition of Payments Pros spotlights an episode from The Crypto Exchange podcast where Ethan Ostroff sat down with Payments Pros hosts Keith Barnett and Carlin McCrory to discuss recent developments with convenience fees in the payments industry. With both of their practices focusing on payments-related issues, Keith and Carlin take a deep dive into the recent CFPB advisory opinion on convenience fees and how it affects payment processors, money transmitters, and loan servicers. Additionally, they explore how the CFPB's advisory affects card network rules and how the rules mesh with state laws.

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