
Uncommon Core 2.0
Uncommon Core 2.0 is a crypto research podcast. This show goes beyond speculation and investing, looking deeper. We explore the fundamental technology and incentives that make public blockchains work under the hood. This show is co-hosted by Hasu and Jon Charbonneau. They’ll be joined by occasional guests, speaking with some of the incredible builders and researchers who are looking to evolve this infrastructure stack to make the mass adoption of crypto possible.
Latest episodes

Mar 5, 2021 • 1h 2min
The Case for Defi - with Richard Galvin, Su Zhu, and Hasu
We are super hyped to bring you our conversation with Richard Galvin, one of the best performing VCs of the last years and frontrunner to the DeFi opportunity. In this episode, Richard and Su make the most condensed case for Defi that I've heard to date.
In this episode, we covered
Richard’s history on Wall Street
Why crypto is in a megatrend
How he goes from thesis to investment
Why society needs finance
How Defi improves on traditional finance; and
the best investment opportunities inside Defi
Richard Galvin https://twitter.com/richwgalvin
Su Zhu https://twitter.com/zhusu
Hasu https://twitter.com/hasufl
Our homepage and mailing list https://uncommoncore.co/podcast/

Feb 21, 2021 • 1h 1min
Interview with Zee Prime Capital, Part 2 - with Su Zhu and Hasu
This is part two of our conversation with Matti and Fiskantes of Zee Prime Capital. While the first half was more philosophical in nature, this time we talked exclusively about different blockchain projects and how they might connect to each other in the future. I believe that with gas fees in Ethereum being as high as they, the advent of sharding and layer two solutions, and the first credible Ethereum competitors like Polkadot, Cosmos, and Solana coming to mainnet, this topic has never been more relevant.
In this episode, we covered
Why Zee Prime invests in Polkadot and its ecosystem
Different approaches to interoperability
Binance Smart Chain
What role Bitcoin and Ethereum will play in a multi-chain future
Part 1 of 2 https://anchor.fm/uncommoncore/episodes/20-Matti-and-Fiskantes-of-Zee-Prime-Capital---Part-1-eqfb0m
Su Zhu https://twitter.com/zhusu
Hasu https://twitter.com/hasufl
Our homepage and mailing list https://uncommoncore.co/podcast/

Feb 16, 2021 • 1h 8min
Interview with Zee Prime Capital, Part 1 - with Su Zhu and Hasu
Today, Su and I are sitting down with Matti and Fiskantes of Zee Prime Capital. These two have consistently been among my favorite people to follow on Crypto Twitter, so I’m very glad that they agreed to have this conversation with us.
In fact, we ended up talking for so long that we have to release the episode in two parts. In this first half, we covered
The value of Crypto Twitter in finding and spreading ideas
Zee Prime’s unique investment thesis and how it is to be an outsider in the VC space
How mimetics and reflexity shape crypto markets
Whether the current crypto cycle will be the last
Hope you enjoy this conversation, I know I did.
Zee Prime's Investment Thesis https://twitter.com/mattigags/status/1353668468776824840?s=20
Matti's article "On Reflexivity & Imitation" https://insights.deribit.com/market-research/on-reflexivity-and-imitation/
Su Zhu https://twitter.com/zhusu
Hasu https://twitter.com/hasufl
Our homepage and mailing list https://uncommoncore.co/podcast/

Feb 2, 2021 • 49min
Financial Populism - with Su Zhu and Hasu
Today, Su and I discuss the rise of WallStreetBets and financial populism in general. As one of the most experienced market participants I know, Su has a unique perspective on the story behind the GameStop short squeeze. We explore why he thinks it is going to end in tears for small investors, which invisible rules of the traditional financial system have been laid bare for everyone to see, and how all of this massively validates crypto and Defi going forward.
Su Zhu https://twitter.com/zhusu
Hasu https://twitter.com/hasufl
Our homepage and mailing list https://uncommoncore.co/podcast/

Jan 7, 2021 • 1h 6min
Defi Top 20 with Arthur0x, Su Zhu and Hasu - Part 2
This is Part Two of our conversation with Arthur0x on the Top 20 Defi (Decentralized Finance) coins by market cap. Arthur0x went from being one of the earliest users and investors at Synthetix, Aave, and Kyber, to running the largest Defi-focused fund in all of Asia.
Arthur0x https://twitter.com/Arthur_0x
Defiance Capital https://twitter.com/DeFianceCapital
Su Zhu https://twitter.com/zhusu
Hasu https://twitter.com/hasufl
Our homepage and mailing list https://uncommoncore.co/podcast/

Jan 2, 2021 • 1h 24min
Defi Top 20 with Arthur0x, Su Zhu and Hasu - Part 1
After our episode on the top 20 crypto coins by market cap, we got a lot of requests to do one for Defi as well. For that discussion, we brought in one of the foremost experts on Defi. Arthur0x went from being one of the earliest users and investors at Synthetix, Aave, and Kyber, to running the largest Defi-focused fund in all of Asia.
Arthur0x https://twitter.com/Arthur_0x
Defiance Capital https://twitter.com/DeFianceCapital
Su Zhu https://twitter.com/zhusu
Hasu https://twitter.com/hasufl
Our homepage and mailing list https://uncommoncore.co/podcast/

Dec 23, 2020 • 1h 17min
Trading Options 101 - with Josh from Orthogonal, Su Zhu, and Hasu
Today, I’m sitting down with Su Zhu, my friend and co-host, and Josh, of Orthogonal Trading.
Josh is one of the biggest and most experienced options traders in crypto and joined us for a very interesting and wide-ranging conversation. Together, we touched on topics like
how options work
differences between options and futures
Different strategies for using them in crypto
as well as what Josh thinks about options trading platforms in Defi
Resources:
https://www.optiontradingtips.com/options101/payoff-diagrams.html
https://www.payoffcharts.com/
https://www.investopedia.com/trading/getting-to-know-the-greeks/
Orthogonal Trading https://twitter.com/OrthoTrading
Su Zhu https://twitter.com/zhusu
Hasu https://twitter.com/hasufl
Our homepage and mailing list https://uncommoncore.co/podcast/

Dec 11, 2020 • 1h 51min
Discusssing the Coingecko Top 20 - with Su Zhu and Hasu
When our scheduled guest had microphone issues, Su and I decided to record an improvised episode for you guys instead. In this one, we go through all the coins in Coingecko's Top 20 by market cap and discuss our thoughts and predictions for them going forward.
Su Zhu https://twitter.com/zhusu
Hasu https://twitter.com/hasufl
Our homepage and mailing list https://uncommoncore.co/podcast/

Nov 13, 2020 • 38min
Interview with DegenSpartan - with Hasu
Today, I’m not only joined by a very special guest, but the format of this episode is highly unusual as well! I interviewed the man who goes by the name @DegenSpartan on Twitter and who is one of the biggest and most enigmatic Defi investors there is. I have wanted to have him on for a long time, but there was one problem: DegenSpartan, or DS in short, is fully pseudonymous and did not even want to have his voice known.
So we looked for a solution and ended up doing a text interview instead. Then I got Patrick McCorry (@paddypisa on Twitter) to speak the part of DS in the final recording, while I spoke my own part. At this point, I want to give a huge thank you to everyone who reached out to us on Twitter and offered their help to make this episode a reality.
I get that this isn’t your average podcast, and you can go and read the text interview instead if you want, but I think Paddy did a fantastic job and the final product came out great. Please enjoy!
Discussed in this interview:
DS: Degenerate or prudent investor?
How he managed to recognize (and sell) the top in Defi
His approach to investing
Becoming Synthetix' patient zero
Why he dislikes Maker, YFI, and governance tokens in general
and more!
Links:
Subscribe to our mailing list for transcripts and other bonus content: https://uncommoncore.co/
DegenSpartan https://twitter.com/DegenSpartan
Hasu https://twitter.com/hasufl
Patrick McCorry (as DS): https://twitter.com/paddypisa

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Oct 23, 2020 • 1h 25min
Art of Trading - with Light, Su Zhu, and Hasu
Today, I sat down with Su Zhu, who is the CEO and CIO of Three Arrows Capital, as well as LightCrypto.
Light is a real crypto OG and one of the largest and most successful prop traders in this space.
We’ve known each other for two years now and I have tremendous respect for his skill and clarity of thought. He’s usually very secretive, so we are thankful that he has recorded his first-ever interview with us. In this conversation, we go very deep into the process and mindset of trading, as well as Su and Light’s current views on the market and how they are positioned going forward.
My name is Hasu, and I’m a researcher, investor, and writer.
Light https://twitter.com/lightcrypto
Su https://twitter.com/zhusu
Hasu https://twitter.com/hasufl
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