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Sustain brings together practitioners, sustainers, funders, researchers and maintainers of the open source ecosystem. We have conversations about the health and sustainability of the open source community. We learn about the ins and outs of what ‘open source’ entails in the real world. Open source means so much more than a license; we're interested in talking about how to make sure that the culture of open source continues, grows, and ultimately, sustains itself.
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Aug 12, 2019 • 50min
Episode 6: Open Source Software Maintenance Lessons Learned with Bastien Guerry
Sponsors
React Native Radio
iPhreaks Show
Ruby Rogues
Cachefly
Panel
Eric Berry
Richard Littauer
Joined By Special Guest: Bastien Guerry
Episode Summary
Bastien Guerry is employed by the French Administration in a program named Entrepreneurs d'intérêt général inspired by Presidential Innovation Fellows. He is also the Release Manager of Org Mode, an information management and outlining tool for Emacs.
Bastien wrote his first software for his girlfriend to help her with her thesis. He then went onto maintain Org Mode between years 2011 and 2015. Bastien likens open source software maintainers' job to that of stay-at-home mothers' job description, as both are a lot of work and involve a lot of responsibility and stress and both are not compensated financially.
The panel then ask about the evolution of Fund The Code Project which supports the free software movement by donations from sponsors. Bastien invites free software maintainers to contact Fund The Code Project for help in finding sponsors.
Links
Bastien Guerry - EmacsWiki
Org mode
_DINSIC
Etalab
Entrepreneurs d'intérêt général
Presidential Innovation Fellows
https://bzg.fr/en/donating-to-free-software-and-free-culture.html/
https://libraries.io/
https://backyourstack.com/
http://themaintainers.org/
Bastien Guerry (@bzg2) | Twitter
Maintainers III: Practice, Policy and Care
https://publiccode.net/
https://www.fundthecode.org/
http://openmodels.fr/en/
SOS 005: Trademark Versus Copyright to Sustain OSS with Mehdi Medjaoui
Open Source & Software Development | O'Reilly OSCON
Picks
Eric Berry:
Software Freedom Conservancy
Richard Littauer:
The Internet is a City
https://www.amazon.com/Chomsky-Anarchism-Noam/dp/1904859208
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare_and_Company_(bookstore)
Bastien Guerry:
https://www.writethedocs.org
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_History_of_Cardenio
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Aug 10, 2019 • 58min
Episode 5: Trademark Versus Copyright to Sustain OSS with Mehdi Medjaoui
Sponsors
Cachefly
Panel
Richard Littauer
Jon Schlinkert
Eric Berry
Joined By Special Guest: Mehdi Medjaoui
Episode Summary
Mehdi Medjaoui is the Steering Committee Member of The Maintainers and the founder of OAuth.io and APIdays Conferences. He is also the EU commission 2020 expert on open data and open APIs. He has co-authored O’Reilly Book “Continuous API management” and created the Maintainers Contract and ALIAS protocol. Mehdi and the panel shine a light on the lack of compensation for developers that maintain open source projects. A majority of these projects are used by many profitable end products but these profits do not make its way back to the developers that contribute with their open source code. The panel explores the best methods to write open source code and still be recognized for the development effort via trademark, licensing and copyright.
Links
Mehdi's LinkedIn
Mehdi's Twitter
Mehdi Medjaoui – Medium
Sustain 2018
Tidelift
Open Source Initiative
The Market for Lemons
FOSSmarks
Contributor License Agreement
Why I Do Not Support a Node Foundation by Eran Hammer
https://www.fundthecode.org/
A Trademark-based contract for OSS maintainers
https://github.com/micromatch/micromatch
IBM closes $34 billion Red Hat acquisition: Now it's time to deliver
Walmart's investment in open source isn't cheap
Picks
Eric Berry:
Making Uncommon Knowledge Common
SuperHuman marketing efforts
Jon Schlinkert:
Crossing the Chasm
The Profit Zone
Richard Littauer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cherry_Orchard
The Great Book of Amber
https://www.davidwhyte.com/
Mehdi Medjaoui:
https://github.com/Droogans/unmaintainable-code
https://increment.com/
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Aug 9, 2019 • 54min
Episode 4: Open Source Community Activities Around the World with Samson Goddy and Vipul Gupta
Sponsors
Cachefly
Panel
Pia Mancini
Richard Littauer
Joined By Special Guest: Samson Goddy and Vipul Gupta
Episode Summary
Samson Goddy and Vipul Gupta join the panelists Pia Mancini and Richard Littauer to talk about open source activities in Nigeria and India. Samson is the Member of the Oversight Board at Sugar Labs and co-founder of Open Source Community Africa and Vipul is a Global Outreach Team Lead at Sugar Labs. Sugar Labs is an activity-focused open-source software learning platform for children. Both Samson and Vipul agree that a lot of developers they talk to are not very familiar with open source and the most common question they receive in meet-up groups is how one can start to contribute to open source. They then discuss what can be done to have more open source contributors and conference attendance from the rest of the world. One of the main issues that make travel difficult is obtaining visa for non-USA and non-UK citizens. A practice that France has been doing for conference specific visas is brought up as a beneficial example.
Links:
https://www.oscafrica.org/
https://sustainoss.org/
https://www.sugarlabs.org/
Vipul Gupta's LinkedIn
Vipul Gupta's Twitter
Samson Goddy's Twitter
Samson Goddy's LinkedIn
https://pydelhi.org
ALiAS
https://opencollective.com/osca
https://twitter.com/unicodeveloper
https://www.yegor256.com/about-me.html
Bounties - Open Collective Docs
Sustain Summit 2018 | Sustain Open Source
Picks
Pia Mancini:
Suggestion for certifications for open source contributions
Suggestions to move opencollective forward
Vipul Gupta:
https://swipetounlock.com/
Richard Littauer:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tyranny_of_Structurelessness
Redshirts by John Scalzi
Samson Goddy:
Nigerian Jollof rice
Black Panther (2018)
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Aug 8, 2019 • 1h 8min
Episode 3: Greg Bloom discusses the Principles of Commons Governance
Sponsors
Cachefly
Panel
Pia Mancini
Eric Berry
Joined By Special Guest: Greg Bloom
Episode Summary
Greg Bloom, the Chief Organizing Officer of Open Referral Initiative, a community of practice that develops data standards and open source tools that make it easier to share, find and use information about health, human, and social services.Greg talks about the evolution of Open Referral Initiative and defines what "commons" is. He mentions how some of the dilemmas developers are facing in open source software maintenance resembles some of the dilemmas dealt with in common resources management. The panel then talks about what principles or rules should be defined for using open source software resources by taking cues from the common resources management guidelines.
Links:
https://OpenReferral.org
https://openreferral.org/our-video-open-referral-in-three-minutes/
Greg's LinkedIn
Greg's Twitter
Governing the Commons by Elinor Ostrom
Tragedy of the Commons by Garrett Hardin
Elinor Ostrom
https://commons.blog/2012/08/18/how-commons-can-flourish/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_analysis_and_development_framework
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_analysis_and_development_framework
The Institutional Analysis and Development Framework
Principles of Open Source Institutional Design
https://aspirationtech.org
Governing Knowledge Commons by Brett M. Frischmann, Michael J. Madison, Katherine J. Strandburg
Picks
Eric Berry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preacher_(comics)
iPadOS Preview
Pia Mancini:
The Age of Surveillance Capitalism by Shoshana Zuboff
The Value of Everything by Mariana Mazzucato
Greg Bloom:
https://responsibledata.io/
https://digitalpublic.io/
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Aug 7, 2019 • 47min
Episode 2: Is GitHub Sponsors Good for OSS?
Sponsors:
CacheFly
Panel
Richard Littauer
Jon Schlinkert
Eric Berry
Episode Summary
The panel discusses the announcement of the beta GitHub Sponsors, a new way to financially support the developers who build the open source software. They list the features they like that GitHub Sponsors offers but think the beta roll-out could have been handled differently. A lot of critical software is dependent on open source software and many of these open source software libraries are maintained by unsupported developers. The panel uses border patrolling drones that are used to identify threats as an example to demonstrate how everyday life can suffer if open source sponsorship is geared only towards finished products rather than libraries like these.
Links
GitHub Sponsors
Picks
Jon Schlinkert:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man's_Search_for_Meaning
Eric Berry
Eric Berry:
https://metabase.com/
https://tryshift.com/
Richard Littauer:
https://www.hbo.com/documentaries/momentum-generation
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Aug 6, 2019 • 49min
Episode 1: Funding Open-Source Projects
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Sponsors
Cachefly
Panel
Pia Mancini
Richard Littauer
Eric Berry
Jon Schlinkert
Episode Summary
This new addition to the Devchat.tv podcast family is about software sustainability, open source projects funding and software maintenance. The panelists introduce themselves and their roles and backgrounds in software sustainability. The panelists also mention that 57% of all software built is open-source and the economic value of open source is over 360 billion dollars so it is crucial to keep developers who maintain open-source projects from burning out. That being said open-source projects have difficulty accessing funding. The panelists talk about efforts that have been made to combat that such as opencollective.com. They then talk about some of the other topics the panelists plan to cover are and invite the audience to recommend topics they would like to hear more about on open-source sustainability.
Links
https://www.zdnet.com/article/its-an-open-source-world-78-percent-of-companies-run-open-source-software/
https://www.blackducksoftware.com/download/2018-open-source-security-and-risk-analysis-infographic
https://www.developer-tech.com/news/2015/oct/14/measuring-value-open-source/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTiyh47zFps
tidelift.com
opencollective.com
maintainer.io
codefund.io
https://discourse.sustainoss.org/
Picks
Jon Schlinkert:
https://tidelift.com
Eric Berry:
https://adventure.land
Richard Littauer:
https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/palaces-for-the-people/
Pia Mancini:
https://www.brainpickings.org/figuring/
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/03/21/702209976/can-inuit-moms-help-me-tame-my-3-year-olds-anger
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