Moms and Mysteries: A True Crime Podcast

This week we’re discussing the murder of a man in the attic of a church and the clues that completely changed the course of the investigation.  Thank you to Haley Gray with haleygrayresearch.wordpress.com for your help researching the episode. ***Live Show Info*** Tickets to our first live show go on sale this Friday, January 17, 2020 at 1PM CST. https://citywinery.com/chicago/moms-murder-3-27-20.html.  For 10% off your standard badge to Crimecon, use our code MANDM2020! Thank you to this week’s sponsors! We LOVE Third Love. For THE best bra of your life, go to Thirdlove.com/MURDER now to find your perfect-fitting bra… and get 15% off your first purchase! Go to HelloFresh.com/momsandmurder10 and use code momsandmurder10 for 10 free meals including free shipping. Get Honey for FREE at Joinhoney.com/MOMS. If you’re ready to get started with Noom, Sign up for your trial today at noom.com/MOMS.  If you have a hero in your life you’d like to nominate, email us at LastThingBeforeWeGo@gmail.com and put “Hero” as the subject. If you’d like to support The Mom’s and get some fun perks, including bonus episodes and early release- ad free episodes, you can check out our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/momsandmurderpodcast. As always, you can find us on Twitter, Instagram, and on our website at https://momsandmurder.com. Make sure you subscribe and rate our show to help others find us! We updated our merch store, you can find that at momsandmurder.threadless.com!  Connect with us on social media at:Facebook.com/MomsAndRedRumInstagram: @MomsAndMurderTwitter.com/MomsAndMurder Sources: https://casetext.com/case/terry-v-state-295 https://law.justia.com/cases/tennessee/supreme-court/1991/813-s-w-2d-420-2.html https://www.newspapers.com/image/393610250/?terms=james%2Bmatheney https://www.newspapers.com/image/112298482/?terms=james%2Bmatheney, https://www.newspapers.com/image/112298767 https://www.newspapers.com/image/112325155/?terms=james%2Bmatheney, https://www.newspapers.com/image/112323186/ https://www.newspapers.com/image/393609768/?terms=james%2Bmatheney https://www.newspapers.com/image/594184928/?terms=james%2Bmatheney https://www.newspapers.com/image/112295721/?terms=james%2Bmatheney https://www.newspapers.com/image/112966686/?terms=john%2Bdavid%2Bterry, https://www.newspapers.com/image/112966692 https://www.newspapers.com/image/112993871/?terms=john%2Bdavid%2Bterry https://www.newspapers.com/image/112980399/?terms=john%2Bdavid%2Bterry, https://www.newspapers.com/image/112980400 https://www.newspapers.com/image/112981034/, https://www.newspapers.com/image/112981042/?terms=john%2Bdavid%2Bterry https://www.newspapers.com/image/594387212/?terms=john%2Bdavid%2Bterry https://www.newspapers.com/image/112980321/?terms=john%2Bdavid%2Bterry, https://www.newspapers.com/image/112980324/ https://www.newspapers.com/image/112980492/?terms=john%2Bdavid%2Bterry https://www.newspapers.com/image/284012000/?terms=john%2Bdavid%2Bterry https://www.newspapers.com/image/284013545/?terms=john%2Bdavid%2Bterry%2Btrial%2Bbegan https://www.newspapers.com/image/284012685/?terms=john%2Bdavid%2Bterry%2Btrial%2Bbegan https://www.newspapers.com/image/112980101 https://www.newspapers.com/image/113422089/?terms=john%2Bdavid%2Bterry https://www.newspapers.com/image/112773785/?terms=john%2Bdavid%2Bterry https://www.newspapers.com/image/112980266 https://www.newspapers.com/image/112039091/?terms=john%2Bdavid%2Bterry https://www.hierarchystructure.com/pentecostal-church-hierarchy/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week we’re discussing the unfortunate “accidents” that happened in the life of Karl Karlsen and what led to his second wife Cindy turning him in to police.  ***Live Show Info*** Tickets to our first live show go on sale this Friday, January 17, 2020 at 1PM CST. https://citywinery.com/chicago/moms-murder-3-27-20.html.  For 10% off your standard badge to Crimecon, use our code MANDM2020! Thank you to this week’s sponsors! We are  happy to bring Better Help to our listeners. Visit Betterhelp.com/Moms and use promo code MOMs for 10% off your first month. Go to GetRemRise.com/momsandmurder, take their sleep quiz, and when you sign up you’ll get 25% off your first month of RemRise.  Go to BioClarity.com and get 15% off EVERYTHING on their website when you use our code MURDER at checkout.  Start your risk-free, 100 day trial and shop the entire Away lineup of travel essentials, including their best-selling suitcases, at awaytravel.com/moms. (This URL is case sensitive!)  If you have a hero in your life you’d like to nominate, email us at LastThingBeforeWeGo@gmail.com and put “Hero” as the subject. If you’d like to support The Mom’s and get some fun perks, including bonus episodes and early release- ad free episodes, you can check out our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/momsandmurderpodcast. As always, you can find us on Twitter, Instagram, and on our website at https://momsandmurder.com. Make sure you subscribe and rate our show to help others find us! We updated our merch store, you can find that at momsandmurder.threadless.com!  Connect with us on social media at:Facebook.com/MomsAndRedRumInstagram: @MomsAndMurderTwitter.com/MomsAndMurder Sources: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/05/us/karl-karlsen-wife-insurance.html https://abcnews.go.com/US/family-suspicion-ny-man-leads-reopening-murder-investigation/story?id=20290502 https://13wham.com/news/special-reports/karl-karlsen-family-friends-share-suspicions https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/local/2013/09/16/wifes-fear-leads-to-new-look-at-husband-in-deaths/2819323/ https://abcnews.go.com/US/daughter-murder-suspect-karl-karlsen-believes-father-killed/story?id=20670228 https://www.fltimes.com/news/local/karlsen-s-brother-speaks-out-says-family-had-suspicions/article_925d5b4e-4889-11e3-babc-0019bb2963f4.html http://www.calaverasenterprise.com/news/article_808000d0-3f1c-11ea-a2ef-e305ee677cd5.html https://www.syracuse.com/news/2013/11/murder_victim_levi_karlsens_daughters_grow_up_without_daddy_levi_murdered_by_his.html https://13wham.com/news/local/ex-wife-of-convicted-seneca-co-killer-karl-karlsen-shares-message https://spectrumlocalnews.com/section/know-your-electeds/public-safety/2019/10/09/man-who-killed-son-in-seneca-county-to-be-tried-in-january-for-murder-of-wife https://law.justia.com/cases/new-york/appellate-division-fourth-department/2017/26-ka-14-00823.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week we’re talking about the contract-killings of Charles Harrelson, the hit that finally sent him to prison, and some really interesting allegations about being an accomplice in the assassination of John F. Kennedy.  ***Live Show Info*** Tickets to our first live show go on sale this Friday, January 17, 2020 at 1PM CST. https://citywinery.com/chicago/moms-murder-3-27-20.html.  For 10% off your standard badge to CrimeCon, use our code MANDM2020! Thank you to this week’s sponsors! Go to Rothys.com.MOMS to get your new favorite flats. Go to hellonoemie.com/MOMS to see their collections and get $50 your first purchase with promo code MOMS. Right now, our listeners get a 14-day FREE trial membership to OPENFIT when you text MOMS to 505050. Standard message and data rates apply. To get started right now, go to Function of Beauty.com/MOMS to take your four-part hair profile quiz and save 20% on your first order.  If you have a hero in your life you’d like to nominate, email us at LastThingBeforeWeGo@gmail.com and put “Hero” as the subject. If you’d like to support The Mom’s and get some fun perks, including bonus episodes and early release- ad free episodes, you can check out our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/momsandmurderpodcast. As always, you can find us on Twitter, Instagram, and on our website at https://momsandmurder.com. Make sure you subscribe and rate our show to help others find us! We updated our merch store, you can find that at momsandmurder.threadless.com!  Connect with us on social media at:Facebook.com/MomsAndRedRumInstagram: @MomsAndMurderTwitter.com/MomsAndMurder Sources: Numerous Newspapers.com archived articles https://www.theguardian.com/film/2012/feb/17/woody-harrelson-my-father-contract-killer-rampart https://rare.us/people/charles-harrelson-hitman/ https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/woody-harrelsons-father-is-arrested-for-murder https://law.jrank.org/pages/3370/Charles-Harrelson-Trial-1982-83.html https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/the-ghost-of-alan-berg/ https://nypost.com/2013/06/23/woody-harrelsons-father-murdered-my-brother/ https://avoiceformen.com/featured/the-murder-of-sam-degelia-jr/ https://www.nytimes.com/1982/12/15/us/3-are-found-guilty-in-assassination-of-federal-judge.html https://www.statesman.com/news/20180209/40-years-on-crime-of-century-still-binds-fbi-director-prison-snitch/1 https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/john-f-kennedy-assassinated https://www.biography.com/actor/woody-harrelson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week we’re talking about a serial killer whose victims covered the United States over a three month period in the 90’s.  Big thanks to Haley Gray with Haley Gray Research with your help in the episode!  ***Live Show Info*** Tickets to our first live show go on sale this Friday, January 17, 2020 at 1PM CST. https://citywinery.com/chicago/moms-murder-3-27-20.html.  For 10% off your standard badge to Crimecon, use our code MANDM2020! Thank you to this week’s sponsors! If you’d like to try magicspoon for your family, Go to magicspoon.com/MURDER to grab a variety pack and try it today! And be sure to use our promo code MURDER at checkout to get free shipping. Right now, our listeners get a special offer that includes a 4-week trial PLUS free postage AND a digital scale without any long-term commitment.  Just go to Stamps.com, click on the Microphone at the TOP of the homepage and type in MOMSANDMURDER.  Go to thirdlove.com/MURDER now to find your perfect-fitting bra…and get 15% off your first purchase!  We are  happy to bring Better Help to our listeners. Visit Betterhelp.com/Moms and use promo code MOMs for 10% off your first month. If you have a hero in your life you’d like to nominate, email us at LastThingBeforeWeGo@gmail.com and put “Hero” as the subject. If you’d like to support The Mom’s and get some fun perks, including bonus episodes and early release- ad free episodes, you can check out our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/momsandmurderpodcast. As always, you can find us on Twitter, Instagram, and on our website at https://momsandmurder.com. Make sure you subscribe and rate our show to help others find us! We updated our merch store, you can find that at momsandmurder.threadless.com!  Connect with us on social media at:Facebook.com/MomsAndRedRumInstagram: @MomsAndMurderTwitter.com/MomsAndMurder Sources: https://web.archive.org/web/20160702022814/https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/march/serial-killers-part-6-andrew-cunanan-murders-a-fashion-icon https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1997-05-16-9705160213-story.html https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/a14442138/who-is-andrew-cunanan-gianni-versace-murderer/ https://www.townandcountrymag.com/style/fashion-trends/a15045343/gianni-versace-murder-death-true-story/ https://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/1997/09/cunanan199709 https://abcnews.go.com/US/inside-mind-serial-killer-murdered-fashion-icon-gianni/story?id=48459029 http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,138062,00.html https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/01/versace-american-crime-story-andrew-cunanan https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/1997/may/29/friends-remember-cunanan-victim/ https://vault.fbi.gov/andrew-phillip-cunanan/andrew-phillip-cunanan-part-01-of-01 https://vault.fbi.gov/andrew-phillip-cunanan/andrew-phillip-cunanan-part-02-of-03/view https://vault.fbi.gov/andrew-phillip-cunanan/andrew-phillip-cunanan-part-03-of-03/view Ancestry https://www.newspapers.com/image/129341482/?article=9a37ce95-73a1-45b0-90cf-13f3cc484146&focus=0.17948557,0.4121888,0.33538777,0.6474095&xid=2378 https://www.newspapers.com/image/273775707/?article=6ecb8094-2f4c-4b76-ad05-d83f6d42bc08&focus=0.6486703,0.2540795,0.96568185,0.40872422&xid=2378&_ga=2.205421264.1152183279.1579160598-1444157894.1576362222 https://www.newspapers.com/image/281346537/?article=8e5782db-a29c-46cc-a590-e14fa8b1bebc&focus=0.020284114,0.54542565,0.33123365,0.72250617&xid=2378&_ga=2.212344660.1152183279.1579160598-1444157894.1576362222 https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/gianni-versace-obituary?pid=179113447 https://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl?cost1=10000&year1=199706&year2=201912 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week we are discussing a South Texas mom who took her role as protector to the next level and the end result was the death of an innocent teenage boy.  ***Live Show Info*** Tickets to our first live show in Chicago are on sale now! https://citywinery.com/chicago/moms-murder-3-27-20.html.  For 10% off your standard badge to Crimecon, use our code MANDM2020! Thank you to this week’s sponsors! Go to BioClarity.com and get 15% off EVERYTHING on their website when you use our code MURDER at checkout! For a limited time, when our listeners go to Grove.co/MM you will get a FREE FIVE PIECE Cleaning Set from Mrs. Meyer and Grove - a THIRTY DOLLAR value! Start saving money and get Honey for FREE at JoinHoney.com/MOMS. If you’d like to give hellofresh a try, there’s never been a better time. Go to HelloFresh.com/momsandmurder10 and use code momsandmurder10 during HelloFresh’s New Year’s sale for 10 free meals including free shipping.  Check out the end of this week’s episode for a promo for the new show, Deadly Misadventures! If you have a hero in your life you’d like to nominate, email us at LastThingBeforeWeGo@gmail.com and put “Hero” as the subject. If you’d like to support The Mom’s and get some fun perks, including bonus episodes and early release- ad free episodes, you can check out our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/momsandmurderpodcast. As always, you can find us on Twitter, Instagram, and on our website at https://momsandmurder.com. Make sure you subscribe and rate our show to help others find us! We updated our merch store, you can find that at momsandmurder.threadless.com!  Connect with us on social media at:Facebook.com/MomsAndRedRumInstagram: @MomsAndMurderTwitter.com/MomsAndMurder Sources: https://murderpedia.org/female.C/c/cisneros-dora.htm https://murderpedia.org/female.C/images/cisneros_dora/98-40955.pdf https://malefactorsregister.com/wp/a-cure-for-the-lovelorn/ https://apnews.com/403f35db31eeff4257190e64908ca429 https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-5th-circuit/1293342.html https://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/local/good-fortune-helped-solve-fischer-slaying/article_ec2ba9e3-d306-52bc-8382-6b47491a6b77.html https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1993/09/13/murder-on-the-border https://www.nytimes.com/1996/03/03/us/after-prosecutor-s-error-woman-convicted-of-murder-is-freed.html https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2008/11/10/south-texas-woman-who-had-daughter-s-ex-boyfriend-slain-loses-appeal/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Joey_Fischer https://blog.chron.com/narcoconfidential/2013/09/twenty-years-later-recollections-of-wilder-than-fiction-south-texas-murder/ https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/id-kill-for-you/full-episodes/texas-black-magic? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curandero https://www.brownsvilleherald.com/news/local/feb-da-obsessed-mom-plotted-slaying/article_5acb2074-ed4c-5210-871e-92ca20d95571.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week we’re telling the story of a murder case that went cold, until a chance meeting with the victim’s daughter triggered the memory of a key informant. ***Live Show Info*** Tickets to our first live show go on sale this Friday, January 17, 2020 at 1PM CST. https://citywinery.com/chicago/moms-murder-3-27-20.html.  For 10% off your standard badge to Crimecon, use our code MANDM2020! Make sure you check out the promo at the end of the episode to hear the trailer for the latest episode of Pretend http://pretendradio.org/s510-the-joe-schmo-show/ Thank you to this week’s sponsors! If you’d like to try magicspoon for your family, Go to magicspoon.com/MURDER to grab a variety pack and try it today! And be sure to use our promo code MURDER at checkout to get free shipping. Check out all the amazing styles available right now at Rothys.com/MOMS. Go to Rothys.com/MOMS to get your new favorite flats. We are happy to bring Better Help to our listeners. Visit Betterhelp.com/Moms and use promo code MOMs for 10% off your first month. Need new glasses or contacts? Head to Warby Parker.com/MOMS to take the quiz and order your free home try on or to learn more about Scout daily contact lenses. That’s warbyparker.com/Moms.  If you have a hero in your life you’d like to nominate, email us at LastThingBeforeWeGo@gmail.com and put “Hero” as the subject. If you’d like to support The Mom’s and get some fun perks, including bonus episodes and early release- ad free episodes, you can check out our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/momsandmurderpodcast. As always, you can find us on Twitter, Instagram, and on our website at https://momsandmurder.com. Make sure you subscribe and rate our show to help others find us! We updated our merch store, you can find that at momsandmurder.threadless.com!  Connect with us on social media at:Facebook.com/MomsAndRedRumInstagram: @MomsAndMurderTwitter.com/MomsAndMurder Sources: https://www.newspapers.com/image/195637210/?terms=dana%2Bsatterfield https://www.newspapers.com/image/194126801/?terms=dana%2Bsatterfield https://www.newspapers.com/image/196728303/?terms=dana%2Bsatterfield Unsolved Mysteries S09E18  https://www.goupstate.com/news/20161225/victim-advocate-turns-tragedy-into-career-helping-others https://www.wspa.com/news/murder-victims-daughter-heals-through-helping-others/ http://charleyproject.org/case/heather-rena-sellars Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week we’re telling another tale of internet-based murder, but instead of luring victims with the internet, this week’s mastermind used the internet to manipulate a former law enforcement officer to commit murder.  For 10% off your standard badge to Crimecon, use our code MANDM2020! Check out the promo at the end of the episode for the Scene of the Crime Podcast! Thank you to this week’s sponsors! Go to hellonoemie.com/MOMS to see their collections and get $50 your first purchase with promo code MOMS. Go to ThirdLove.com/MURDER now to find your perfect-fitting bra, and get 15% off your first purchase!  Get your first week of Rem Rise FOR FREE when you sign up at GetRemRise.com/momsandmurder. Don’t spend another minute in hair misery. Go to FunctionofBeauty.com/moms for 20% off your first order! If you have a hero in your life you’d like to nominate, email us at LastThingBeforeWeGo@gmail.com and put “Hero” as the subject. If you’d like to support The Mom’s and get some fun perks, including bonus episodes and early release- ad free episodes, you can check out our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/momsandmurderpodcast. As always, you can find us on Twitter, Instagram, and on our website at https://momsandmurder.com. Make sure you subscribe and rate our show to help others find us! We updated our merch store, you can find that at momsandmurder.threadless.com!  Connect with us on social media at:Facebook.com/MomsAndRedRumInstagram: @MomsAndMurderTwitter.com/MomsAndMurder Sources: https://www.scribd.com/doc/310761091/Sharee-Miller-murder-confession https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCOURTS-mied-2_05-cv-73447/pdf/USCOURTS-mied-2_05-cv-73447-1.pdf https://www.abc12.com/home/headlines/Sharee-Miller-writes-confession-letter-admitting-her-role-in-a-17-year-old-murder-377531551.html https://www.mied.uscourts.gov/PDFFIles/05-73447%20Order%20denying%20writ%20of%20habeas%20and%20granting%20COA.pdf https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca6/08-2267/10a0179p-06-2011-02-25.html http://vots.altervista.org/MI/Miller.html http://legalnews.com/flintgenesee/613172 https://enacademic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/10384882 http://www.lasvegasworldnews.com/sharee-miller-jerry-cassiday-bruce-miller-michael-denoyer-and-latest-updates/14823/ http://www.nbcnews.com/id/35988098/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/t/instant-message-murder/#.XgTDP0dKi70 https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5t0a54 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

***Reminder, we will be off the next two weeks, but will return (better than ever?) January 7, 2020. Have a great holiday!*** This week we are discussing the suspicious disappearance of a thriving Michigan woman and the terrible fate that befell her that winter. Thank you to this week’s sponsors! Stamps.com, enter MOMSANDMURDER. Never go to the Post Office again.  We are happy to bring Better Help to our listeners. Visit Betterhelp.com/Moms and use promo code MOMs for 10% off your first month. Try instacart and get $10 off and free delivery on your first order! to get this limited time offer, download the mobile app or go to instacart.com and enter our promo code moms10 at checkout.  If you are looking to make changes in your habits, Noom is designed for results- it’s out with the old habits, in with the new- sign up for your trial today at Noom.com/moms.  If you have a hero in your life you’d like to nominate, email us at LastThingBeforeWeGo@gmail.com and put “Hero” as the subject. If you’d like to support The Mom’s and get some fun perks, including bonus episodes and early release- ad free episodes, you can check out our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/momsandmurderpodcast. As always, you can find us on Twitter, Instagram, and on our website at https://momsandmurder.com. Make sure you subscribe and rate our show to help others find us! We updated our merch store, you can find that at momsandmurder.threadless.com!  Connect with us on social media at:Facebook.com/MomsAndRedRumInstagram: @MomsAndMurderTwitter.com/MomsAndMurder Sources: A Slaying in the Suburbs by Steve Miller and Andrea Billups ISBN: 978-1-440-66007-8 https://law.justia.com/cases/michigan/court-of-appeals-unpublished/2009/20091006-c284100-70-284100-opn.html https://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=3039832&page=1 https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/a-look-back-at-the-steven-grant-murder-case-of-wife-tara-after-10-years https://www.sootoday.com/local-news/autopsy-confirms-tara-grants-cause-of-death-108267 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cops-husband-admits-to-horrific-murder/ https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/macomb/2016/05/05/court-nothing-odd-confession-wife-murderer-stephen-grant/83959906/ https://www.theoaklandpress.com/news/stephen-grant-au-pair-told-police-of-minimal-affair/article_ae0ce647-a321-5c47-b21d-4ff3e0795b3b.html https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2f8kvs https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/macomb-county/2017/09/30/tara-grant-legacy-murder-ten-years-later/106164920/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week we are discussing the multiple murders at the hands of a mad scientist. Thank you to this week’s sponsors! We are happy to bring Better Help to our listeners. Visit Betterhelp.com/Moms and use promo code MOMs for 10% off your first month. Become a gift giving legend and head to Framebridge.com and use promo code MOMS and you’ll save an additional 15% off your first order.  To find your perfect fitting bra, go to THIRDLOVE.com/MURDER and get 15% off your first purchase!  If you are looking to make changes in your habits, Noom is designed for results- it’s out with the old habits, in with the new- sign up for your trial today at Noom.com/moms.  Make sure you check out our friends with Re-Solved Mysteries Podcast! If you have a hero in your life you’d like to nominate, email us at LastThingBeforeWeGo@gmail.com and put “Hero” as the subject. If you’d like to support The Mom’s and get some fun perks, including bonus episodes and early release- ad free episodes, you can check out our Patreon page at https://www.patreon.com/momsandmurderpodcast. As always, you can find us on Twitter, Instagram, and on our website at https://momsandmurder.com. Make sure you subscribe and rate our show to help others find us! We updated our merch store, you can find that at momsandmurder.threadless.com!  Connect with us on social media at:Facebook.com/MomsAndRedRumInstagram: @MomsAndMurderTwitter.com/MomsAndMurder Sources: https://www.patriotledger.com/news/20170925/braintrees-amy-bishop-to-be-featured-on-cable-channel-show https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/after-5-years-alabama-university-killer-apologizes-first-time-n447481 https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/amy-bishop-gets-life-in-prison-for-ala-univ-shooting/ https://www.al.com/news/huntsville/2017/10/joseph_leahy_survivor_of_amy_b.html https://www.wired.com/2011/02/ff-bishop/ https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/amy-bishop-husband-alleged-university-alabama-shooter-loving-mother-wife/story?id=9883895 https://www.newspapers.com/image/444019758/?terms=amy%2Bbishop https://www.newspapers.com/image/262432878/?terms=amy%2Bbishop https://www.newspapers.com/image/536037084/?terms=amy%2Bbishop https://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/21/us/21bishop.html?mtrref=www.google.com&gwh=5628946C66F19D324C75FEE4F36C9723&gwt=pay&assetType=REGIWALL https://www.al.com/breaking/2013/02/new_yorker_magazine_delves_int.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Here's the thing, we released an episode earlier today, and if you have Apple podcasts/Apple watches/Apple flying cars you may not have seen it. We've done a refresh and things should be good, but just in case, if you use Apple for podcasts, could you do us a favor? Please unsubscribe and re-subscribe to the podcast. We want to really drive home that part about re-subscribing, because we would know you were gone... and we would find you. We're using this "hello" to alert those that don't know we still exist from this mishap, or to simply bump the show back into your feeds if it's gone missing. And if neither applies to you, we just want to take the time to say, "Hey! Don't you look nice today! Did you do something different with your hair?" Thanks for listening and we'll be back next week! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices