

Fork Around And Find Out
Justin Garrison & Autumn Nash
Fork Around and Find Out is your downtime from uptime. Your break from the pager, and a chance to learn from expert’s successes and failures. We cover state-of-the-art, legacy practices for building, running, and maintaining software and systems.
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Nov 3, 2026 • 1h 7min
Educating the Normies with Shannon Morse
FAFOFM StoreJustin is speaking at KubeAuto day. Free co-located event at Kubecon NAVictoria Metrics on Bluesky and YouTubePersonal security is a balance of usability and convenience. This is a hard battle when your audience isn't people who consider themselves technical. Shannon Morse has been educating the general public about security, hacking, and consumer technology for years. In this episode we cover how to reach the masses about AI, passkeys, and practical security for everyone.Shannon's YouTubeShannon's Instagram

Oct 6, 2026 • 1h 5min
Weighing the Chickens with JT Perry
JT Perry, a former Navy submariner and technology executive, now runs Barn Analytics, building practical tools for small farms. He joins a lively conversation about enterprise transformation, corporate politics, knowing when not to modernize, and why business outcomes matter more than shiny technology. They also explore chicken health monitoring, freezer compliance, hardware prototyping, and lessons from submarine life.

Sep 4, 2026 • 1h 30min
Integrating with Kubernetes with Matthew Sanabria
Come find Justin in-person and get FAFOFM stickers!Devopsdays - Portland, OR - September 8-10. Get 20% off tickets with FAFOFMEdgecase - Gooiland Hilversum, NL - September 24Taloscon - Amsterdam, NL - October 15-16KCD UK - Edinburgh - October 19Kubecon NA - Salt Lake City, UT - November 9-12Have an opening? HIRE AUTUMN!!! She's looking for open source, forward deployed engineer, and developer relation roles. They need to be remote or flexible in-office schedules in Seattle.Matthew took a fresh look at ways customers can manage Kubernetes on Oxide racks. He helped build a Rancher node driver, Talos Omni infrastructure provider, and Cluster API Provider (CAPOx). We dive deep into what he thought about each one and couldn't help but spend some time chatting about how he's using AI for work and play.Matthew's websiteOxide computerFallthrough.fm podcast

Aug 22, 2026 • 1h 7min
Flying through The Atmosphere with Dan Abermov
Come find Justin in-person and get FAFOFM stickers!Tailscale Up - San Francisco, CA - August 26Devopsdays - Portland, OR - September 8-10. Get 20% off tickets with FAFOFMEdgecase - Gooiland Hilversum, NL - September 24Taloscon - Amsterdam, NL - October 15-16KCD UK - Edinburgh - October 19Kubecon NA - Salt Lake City, UT - November 9-12Have an opening? HIRE AUTUMN!!!The AT protocol has a fundamental different design than other social networks. There are no siloed instances and every user is associated with their own domain. As Dan likes to put it, a Personal Data Server (PDS) is more like a filesystem for your personal activity. Apps that read those files can read one type of file or many types. User identity lives outside of any one app and we go deep into it on this episode.Show notes:Anisota - A different approach to browsing social mediaFAFOFM Guests starter pack Dan’s blog(00:00) - Introduction and guest setup
(01:15) - Dan’s background with Blue Sky
(06:14) - What at protocol is built on
(12:52) - Why at protocol matters
(17:26) - At protocol vs. ActivityPub
(22:31) - Identity, portability, and lock-in
(30:37) - Public data, scraping, and AI
(41:41) - Moderation, forks, and the future of AT protocol

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Jul 13, 2026 • 1h 14min
Laughing Through The Pain with David Crawshaw
David Crawshaw, engineer and co-founder of Tailscale now building exe.dev, an SSH-first cloud for developers. He discusses why current cloud UX is broken and how simple SSH interfaces, bare-metal economics, and agent-friendly tooling can reset developer workflows. The conversation covers agent design, sandboxing and secrets, storage tradeoffs, and making VMs cheap and instant for experimentation.

Jun 10, 2026 • 56min
Suing The Government with Cindy Cohn
Cindy Cohn, Executive Director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation and author of Privacy's Defender, is a digital rights lawyer who has defended encryption, privacy, and online free expression. She tells stories from landmark cases like Bernstein, explains code as speech, discusses recruiting technical and noncoding contributors, warns about corporate influence in open source, and urges legal fixes to protect privacy.

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May 14, 2026 • 59min
Taking Down Prod with Eve
A platform engineer shares wild stories about Kubernetes, CI/CD and GitOps. They unpack why documentation and psychological safety matter when things go wrong. There is a funny take on developer experience, rollbacks, and when tooling becomes overkill. The conversation also explores how AI changes workflows and practical ways to use it for prototyping and incident work.

Apr 24, 2026 • 1h 11min
Laying the Foundation with Joe Beda
Fork Around and Get EmailSponsor FAFOFM"Everyone is a beginner at one point." Even one of the creators of Kubernetes. If you're listening to this podcast then Joe has had an impact on what you do. He's worked on everything from Internet Explorer 6, Google Cloud Platform, and Kubernetes. You can partially blame him for ActiveX and YAML. He's also one of the kindest people who understand the difference between going fast and going far.
Don't forgot to check out the FAFOFM store.

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Mar 20, 2026 • 1h 2min
Training The Future with Mark Russinovich
Mark Russinovich, CTO of Microsoft Azure and systems internals expert, discusses training the next generation of engineers and the risks of growing system complexity. He explores AI as an added abstraction, apprenticeship-style preceptorships, open source security pressures, and why human judgment and robust training remain essential in an AI-powered world.

Feb 25, 2026 • 1h 16min
Developing Measurements with Cat Hicks
Dr. Cat Hicks, psychological scientist and founder of Catharsis Consulting, studies developer experience, team psychology, and software metrics. She challenges simple productivity numbers and discusses why cycle time and velocity can mislead. Short takes cover code review bias, measuring psychological factors like belonging, and how to design better, evidence-based metrics for teams.


