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Oct 18, 2018 • 35min
Nervous States, with Will Davies
Have feelings taken over the world? Have we lost our collective grip on rationality? And what can a panic about nothing at Oxford Circus last year tell us about our relationship with the truth?
With author of 'Nervous States', William Davies.
Plus a recommendation for another podcast (because we're generous like that) about social network theory.
Links
Nervous States - Penguin Books
How feelings took over the world | Culture | The Guardian
Dastardly Cleverness episode featuring Mirta Galesic
Produced by James Shield.
Brought to you by the RSA (Royal Society for the encouragement of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce).
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Aug 24, 2018 • 30min
Anger, with Claire Fox
Anger is all the rage, but is anger itself the problem? Some people say we need to push back against anger in our politics, and respond with tranquil civility. But what if anger is the only rational response to a crisis in our democracy, and crumbling political norms?
Claire Fox, director of the Academy of Ideas and author of 'I Find That Offensive!', joins Matthew Taylor and Ian Leslie to discuss anger, snowflakes, and inevitably, Brexit.
Links
Martha Nussbaum's piece, 'Powerlessness and the Politics of Blame'
David Adler in the New York Times: 'Centrists Are the Most Hostile to Democracy, Not Extremists'
Claire Fox on Twitter
Ian Leslie on Twitter
Matthew Taylor on Twitter
Produced by James Shield.
Brought to you by the RSA (Royal Society for the encouragement of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce).
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Jul 25, 2018 • 27min
The Media and Echo Chambers
Is it really true that we all live in our own echo chambers? Fake news and the filter bubble, post-truth and alternative facts… Are we all, as President Obama put it, ‘absorbing an entirely different reality’?
In this episode we’re asking: Is our sense of a shared reality becoming even more fragile? And is fragmentation of the media the cause – or just the symptom – of our polarised politics? With guest Sílvia Majó-Vázquez, Research Fellow at the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism at Oxford.
Links
The Leave case for a second referendum - Matthew Taylor
Getting a second referendum right - Matthew Taylor
Guardian: Justine Greening endorses second Brexit referendum
Dr Sílvia Majó-Vázquez, Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism
Quillette: Political Moderates Are Lying
Abilene paradox - Wikipedia
Twitter:
Sílvia Majó-Vázquez on Twitter
Ian Leslie on Twitter
Matthew Taylor on Twitter
Produced by James Shield.
Brought to you by the RSA (Royal Society for the encouragement of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce).
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Jun 27, 2018 • 36min
Inequality and Generation Wealth, with Faiza Shaheen & Lauren Greenfield
Are economic divides to blame for everything else that’s broken in our politics? Does 'economic anxiety' explain the Trump and Brexit votes? And what deeper cultural undercurrents are at play in unequal societies?
Ian and Matthew speak to Faiza Shaheen, director of the Centre for Labour and Social Studies (CLASS) about inequalities in the UK and the US. And Matthew interviews the Emmy-winning director and photographer Lauren Greenfield, whose new documentary 'Generation Wealth' (out in the UK on 20th July) looks back at her career, and tells the story of how the American Dream came to be corrupted.
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Full Disclosure:
The Atlantic: People Voted for Trump Because They Were Anxious, Not Poor
Understanding the Social and Cultural Bases of Brexit
New York Times: Trump Voters Driven by Fear of Losing Status, Not Economic Anxiety, Study Finds
RSA report: Addressing economic insecurity
Faiza Shaheen interview:
Centre for Labour and Social Studies (CLASS)
Gini coefficient
CLASS factsheet: How unequal is the UK?
CLASS report: 'Minority Report: Race and Class in post-Brexit Britain', edited by Omar Khan and Faiza Shaheen
Podcast: CLASS on Class miniseries hosted by Faiza Shaheen
Lauren Greenfield interview:
Generation Wealth trailer
Wikipedia: Lauren Greenfield
RSA Event: How inequality gets inside our heads, with Richard Wilkinson and Kate Pickett, authors of 'The Spirit Level' and 'The Inner Level'
The Provocation:
Centre for Social Investigation: People’s Stated Reasons for Voting Leave or Remain
A Tale of Two Houses: The House of Commons, the Big Brother House and the People at Home
Twitter:
Faiza Shaheen on Twitter
Lauren Greenfield on Twitter
Ian Leslie on Twitter
Matthew Taylor on Twitter
Produced by James Shield, with production help from Jade Vowles.
Brought to you by the RSA (Royal Society for the encouragement of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce).
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Jun 20, 2018 • 29min
How Internet Culture Poisoned Politics, with Whitney Phillips
Is it inevitable that the internet and social media drive us to the extremes? Or do they just hold up a mirror to an already divided culture? And we explore the dark side of the internet – trolls, racist memes, hate-filled comment sections and increasingly virulent culture wars – and ask whether it hijacked the White House.
Guest
Whitney Phillips, Assistant Professor of Communication, Culture, and Digital Technologies at Syracuse University, and author of ‘This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things: Mapping the Relationship between Online Trolling and Mainstream Culture’
Links
Whitney Phillips on Twitter
Whitney's May 2018 report for Data & Society: The Oxygen of Amplification: Better Practices for Reporting on Extremists, Antagonists, and Manipulators Online
Whitney's 2016 article for Slate: 'Donald Trump Is Not a Troll'
Ian Leslie on Twitter
Matthew Taylor on Twitter
Produced by James Shield.
Brought to you by the RSA (Royal Society for the encouragement of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce).
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Jun 12, 2018 • 34min
Silicon Valley's Persuasion Machine
By now, lots of us have heard at least part of the story of the Facebook election scandal. Cambridge Analytica, the company in the eye of the storm, has closed its doors and is under investigation. But how effective were its methods? Can ‘psychographic microtargeting’ really swing elections and referendums? And is it already driving a wedge in our politics?
Guests
Chris Sumner, research director of the Online Privacy Foundation
Martin Moore, director of the Centre for the Study of Media, Communication and Power at King's College London
Links
'Who's zoomin' who?' – Ian's short piece on Cambridge Analytica, March 2018
Wikipedia: Big Five personality traits and OCEAN
Amazon: The Hidden Persuaders by Vance Packard
Vox: A massive new study reviews the evidence on whether campaigning works. The answer's bleak.
YouTube: Rage Against the Weaponized AI Propaganda Machine - Chris Sumner's talk on the Online Privacy Foundation's psychographic microtargeting research, at the DEF CON hacker conference, October 2017
Wikipedia: Social proof
Martin Moore's blog
Martin's forthcoming book: Democracy Hacked: Political Turmoil and Information Warfare in the Digital Age
Fisher, M., & Keil, F. (2014). The Illusion of Argument Justification. Journal of Experimental Psychology.
Ian's newsletter, The Ruffian
Ian Leslie on Twitter
Matthew Taylor on Twitter
Produced by James Shield. Artwork design by Emily Power.
Brought to you by the RSA (Royal Society for the encouragement of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce).
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May 17, 2018 • 30min
Liberals and Authoritarians
Commentators have written at great length about left vs right, the young vs the old, ‘somewheres’ vs ‘anywheres’. But what if there’s one big divide they’re missing? Are we now a nation of liberals vs authoritarians?
Divides in politics are nothing new – but are they deepening? And does the old left/right split still apply, or are there newer, different splits in British politics?
The political sociologist Paula Surridge from the University of Bristol joins the RSA’s Matthew Taylor and the author of 'Born Liars' and 'Curious', Ian Leslie, to discuss.
Links
Paula's Medium post on the liberal-authoritarian divide
The Authoritarian Dynamic by Karen Stenner
'The thing about the “gap in British politics” is it exists, but it ain’t where most commentators think it is.' - Stephen Bush from the New Statesman on Twitter, using Paula's analysis
Why are there fewer election posters in people's windows? - Benedict Pringle in Political Advertising
Matthew Taylor on Twitter
Ian Leslie on Twitter
Paula Surridge on Twitter
Produced by James Shield, with production help from Alex Atack in Bristol. Artwork design by Emily Power.
Brought to you by the RSA (Royal Society for the encouragement of Arts, Manufactures and Commerce).
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