
The AAAi Podcast
AAA CEO & President Bridget McCormack and Killer Whale Strategies founder and startup investor Zach Abramowitz explore the impact of AI on the legal ecosystem and peel back the curtain on the AAA’s AI journey in a series of conversations with industry influencers.
Latest episodes

Jun 5, 2025 • 34min
Professor Richard Susskind
Bridget and Zach talk with Richard Susskind about his new book, How to Think About AI, and what AI means for the future of courts, lawyers, and justice. Richard challenges the legal profession’s deep resistance to change and asks: what if access to justice mattered more than preserving legal work as we know it? LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/richardsusskind/ X: @richardsusskind Amazon: How To Think About AI: A Guide For The Perplexed by Richard Susskind Website: susskind.com

May 22, 2025 • 28min
Hebbia.ai Head of Legal Vertical Ryan Samii
What if lawyers didn’t have to settle for chatbots? Bridget and Zach talk with Ryan Samii, Head of Legal at Hebbia.ai, about building the AI infrastructure legal teams actually want. He explains why Hebbia ditched chat for a grid—and how acting fast beats waiting for perfect. This episode is a playbook for smart risk, bold design, and legal teams who don’t wait to get started.

May 8, 2025 • 30min
From Podcast Guest to Strategic Partner: Clearbrief Founder and CEO Jacqueline Schafer
Bridget and Zach talk with Clearbrief Founder and CEO Jaqueline Schafer. In this episode of The AAAi Podcast, we trace how a podcast conversation turned into a strategic partnership. It’s a case study in building trust, piloting with purpose, and quietly rewriting what it means to be the global authority in dispute resolution.

Apr 24, 2025 • 34min
Helton Law Group Founder and CEO Carrie McLain and Newcode.ai Founder and CEO Maged Helmy
Bridget and Zach talk with Maged and Carrie about building legal AI that actually works. Maged shares how Newcode was designed to meet the realities of practice - modular, secure, and deployed where the data lives. Carrie explains how her firm is built to empower clients to solve problems themselves, even if that means working herself out of a job.

Dec 5, 2024 • 34min
David Lat, Founder Original Jurisdiction
Bridget and Zach talk with David Lat, founder of Original Jurisdiction and Above the Law. David shares what lawyers’ lawyers are saying about AI, regulatory challenges, client demands, and their impact on the future of law and dispute resolution.

Oct 31, 2024 • 53min
Ford Motor Company’s AGC Darth Vaughn & Sr. Counsel Whitney Stefko Dover
Darth Vaughn, Associate General Counsel at Ford, and Whitney Stefko Dover, Lawyer at Ford specializing in legal innovation, dive into the transformative role of AI in legal operations. They discuss how AI enhances judicial efficiency and can streamline decision-making processes. The duo emphasizes the rising necessity of AI in handling increasing business disputes, alongside their unique journeys from traditional law to tech-influenced roles. They also critique current legal training methods, advocating for a more practical, adaptive approach to meet modern challenges.

Aug 1, 2024 • 47min
Jenner & Block Partner Adam Unikowsky
Bridget and Zach talk with Adam Unikowsky, about his article “In AI We Trust, Part II,” where AI adjudicates every Supreme Court case. They explore how AI tools are rapidly advancing and their impact on the law. "In AI We Trust, Part II" https://adamunikowsky.substack.com/p/in-ai-we-trust-part-ii

May 31, 2024 • 36min
ODR.com CEO Colin Rule
At Future Lawyer USA in Boston, Zach and Bridget talk with Colin Rule on stage in Boston at Future Lawyer USA about the AAA’s acquisition of his company ODR.com, the AAA’s first acquisition of a tech company in its nearly 100 year history.

Apr 25, 2024 • 37min
LegalMation CEO James Lee
At Legalweek in New York, Bridget and Zach talk about the power and limitations of large language models with LegalMation founder James Lee.

Mar 28, 2024 • 34min
Clearbrief CEO Jacqueline Schafer
At Legalweek in New York, Bridget and Zach talk with ex-litigator and Clearbrief founder Jacqueline Schafer about how large language models are changing the game for legal tech.