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MOPs & MOEs
Changing the fitness culture of the force. Your one stop shop for all things fitness for tactical professionals.
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Feb 25, 2024 • 1h 33min
Lessons Learned: Two Years of MOPs & MOEs
Former MLB player turned Army H2F program member Brendon Huttmann hosts a revealing interview with the podcast hosts, exploring their origin story, goals of the platform, and lessons learned. Topics include podcast evolution, engaging with audience feedback, and evolving perspectives in the training and fitness industry.

Feb 18, 2024 • 1h 16min
Attack Aircraft: Human vs Machine with Maj Ridge Flick
On this week's episode we're diving into some unique human performance considerations for close air support pilots. Everything from cognitive performance to neck strength to how pilots go to the bathroom in single seat aircraft...
Major Ridge "KELSO" Flick is a military pilot with over 2000 cumulative flight hours in the T-6, T-38, and A-10C. He flew A-10 combat missions in support of Operation Inherent Resolve and Operation Freedom Sentinel in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan. He is currently the A-10C Program Element Monitor (PEM) at Air Combat Command. In that role, Maj Flick monitors all A-10C modernization and sustainment programs by working with the A-10 squadrons, the System Program Office, the A-10 test team, Headquarters Air Force and other Major Command staffs to ensure the A-10 remains the greatest Close Air Support aircraft in the world.
He received a Bachelors of Science in Aeronautical Engineering from the United States Air Force Academy where he was near the top of his class academically and the captain of the lacrosse team.

Feb 11, 2024 • 1h 9min
Predicting Success at Ranger School with LTC Tim Benedict
LTC Timothy Benedict, an infantry officer and physical therapist, discusses the predictors of success at Ranger School, including resilience, mindset, fitness, and accountability. They also explore the correlation between rucking, running, and success, and the importance of pre-Ranger training programs. The study findings align with common beliefs but reveal some surprises. The research will stimulate further studies and generate interesting discussions. Future research directions include exploring the impact of mindset on rehabilitation in injured individuals.

Feb 4, 2024 • 1h 9min
MOPs & MOEs Book Club
On this episode we each brought five books that have shaped the way we think about human performance and discussed why they had such an impact. And in classic form, we each also brought a few honorable mentions as well.
Drew's books are a little more focused on strength and conditioning, while Alex's books (somewhat unexpectedly) are largely focused on mental health and how exercise affects our brains.
If you're looking for reading suggestions in the human performance space, you have come to the right place. This list spans a lot of different topics, so there's something for everyone.
If you want to get any of them, here is the full list:
Drew's Top 5
Practical Programming for Strength Training (Andy Baker/Mark Rippetoe)
The Science of Running (Steve Magness)
The Structure of Scientific Revolutions (Thomas Kuhn)
Training Talk (Martin Bingisser)
Endure (Alex Hutchinson)
Alex's Top 5
Spark: The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain (John Ratey)
Man's Search for Meaning (Viktor Frankl)
How Minds Change (David Mcraney)
Saving Normal (Allen Frances)
Tribe (Sebastian Junger)
Honorable Mentions
Training for the New Alpinism (Scott Johnston/Steve House)
Starting Strength (Mark Rippetoe)
Strongest Shall Survive (Bill Starr)
80/20 Running (Matt Fitzgerald)
Winning (Clive Woodward)
Reactive Training Systems Manual (Mike Tuscherer)
John Kiely Papers: A New Understanding of Stress, Periodization Paradigms in the 21st Century, and Periodization Theory: Confronting an Inconvenient Truth
Michael Pollan books: This is Your Mind on Plants, In Defense of Food, and Omnivore’s Dilemma
Go Wild (John Ratey)
The Nature Fix (Florence Williams)
Why Zebra’s Don’t Get Ulcers (Robert Sapolsky)

Jan 28, 2024 • 1h 29min
Royal Army Physical Training Corps with WO2 Steve Turner
On this week's episode we're headed across the pond. WO2 Steve Turner is a Quartermaster Sergeant Instructor in the British Royal Army Physical Training Corps, and he's here to help us understand how the British Army approaches physical fitness.
If you're in the US military, it's worth noting up front that Warrant Officers in the British Army are not quite the same as ours. He's much more like what we would call a Sergeant Major.
The topics we covered include everything from how NCOs can take on full time roles as physical training instructors to how they've recently updated their testing to (as listeners have come to expect from us) a discussion of how their soldiers are fed.
Their new Role Fitness Test Soldier is quite similar to our ACFT, they have just started implementing something called EDGE, which parallels our H2F, and although we discuss plenty of differences between our approaches there are clearly some similar challenges and valuable lessons we can learn from their model.
This document provides descriptions of the various fitness tests British soldiers take at different points in their career, depending on their occupation.
You can find an excellent hype reel that will have you ready to go try out for the RAPTC here.
If you're ready to try out, here's an overview of the selection process for RAPTCIs.

Jan 21, 2024 • 1h 19min
State of Strength and Conditioning with Scott Caulfield
Scott Caulfield, a well-known collegiate strength and conditioning coach, discusses topics including coaching education, training program origins, balancing coaching experience with research, and the importance of staying involved in organizations like the NSCA. They also explore the impact of strength and conditioning programs on soldier performance readiness and ROTC program collaborations.

Jan 14, 2024 • 1h 13min
The Ozempic Episode with Dr. Karl Nadolsky
This is our heavily anticipated episode on the weight loss drugs that have been receiving a ton of media attention recently, including Ozempic and Wegovy (semaglutide), Mounjaro and Zepbound (tirzepatide), and others.
Since these drugs are intimately involved with our bodies' hormone regulation, we had to bring in an hormone expert to break it down for us. Dr. Karl Nadolsky is one of the best in this space, and is both a nationally recognize expert in obesity medicine, and a Navy veteran who worked extensively on these issues with active duty service members at Walter Reed.
Karl is a clinical endocrinologist and chief of the endocrinology, obesity & diabetes department for Holland Hospital in Holland, MI. He is an assistant clinical professor of medicine for Michigan State University College of Human Medicine. He holds board certification in Internal Medicine, Diabetes Endocrinology & Metabolism, and Obesity Medicine.
You may know him from the Docs Who Lift podcast which he co-hosts with his brother Spencer, who is also a doctor specializing in obesity medicine. Both of the brothers are accomplished athletes in addition to their medical credentials, giving them a unique perspective on the appropriate combinations of medical and lifestyle interventions.
You can listen to the Docs Who Lift podcast on Spotify here (or on your preferred listening app).
You can find Karl's article on obesity pharmacotherapy in active duty military populations here.
You can follow Karl on his Instagram for some excellent health and fitness content, and if you want to follow both of the Docs Who Lift, you can follow Spencer on his page as well.

Jan 7, 2024 • 1h 19min
Food is Medicine with Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian
This episode is all about nutrition in America: How did we get here? (Hint: there are actually some very good reasons for all the processed food) What problems is our diet creating? (Hint: it's more than just obesity) And what can we do to start fixing it?
That's a huge topic, but our guest is one of the most qualified person to tackle it. Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian is a cardiologist, Jean Mayer Professor of Nutrition at the Friedman School of Nutrition Science and Policy at Tufts University, Professor of Medicine at Tufts School of Medicine, and an attending physician at Tufts Medical Center. Recently he also became the founding Director of the Tufts Food is Medicine Institute. His work aims to create the science and translation for a food system that is nutritious, equitable, and sustainable.
Dr. Mozaffarian has authored more than 500 scientific publications on dietary priorities for obesity, diabetes, and cardiovascular diseases, and on evidence-based policy approaches and innovations to reduce diet-related diseases and improve health equity in the US and globally. Areas of focus include defining healthy diets, nutritional biomarkers, Food is Medicine interventions in healthcare, business innovation and entrepreneurship, and food policy.
He is one of the top cited researchers in medicine globally, he has served in numerous advisory roles including for the US and Canadian governments, American Heart Association, World Health Organization, and United Nations. His work has been featured in an array of media outlets. Thomson Reuters has named him as one of the World's Most Influential Scientific Minds In 2023, Dr. Mozaffarian was nominated by President Biden to serve on the President’s Council on Sports, Fitness, and Nutrition (PCSFN).
Dr. Mozaffarian received his B.S. in biological sciences from Stanford University, M.D. from Columbia University. He took his residency at Stanford, and was a fellow in cardiovascular medicine at the University of Washington, where he also received his MPH. He earned a Doctorate in Public Health from Harvard. Before being appointed as Dean at Tufts in 2014, Dr. Mozaffarian was at Harvard Medical School and Harvard School of Public Health for a decade and clinically active in cardiology at Brigham and Women’s Hospital. He is married, has three children, and actively trains as a Fourth Degree Black Belt in Taekwondo.
For an overview of the initiatives that the Tufts Food is Medicine Institute is tackling see their fact sheet.
If you want to learn more about the Food Compass drama that we briefly discuss in the episode, check out this blog post summarizing the situation.
You can find the text of the SWEET Act here, which is a proposal to tax sugar sweetened beverages and use the revenue from that tax to fund research on diet-related health conditions.

Dec 31, 2023 • 1h 27min
Theory vs Practice: A Survey on Periodization with Kechi Anyadike-Danes
We have Kechi Anyadike-Danes back for round two to discuss the second installment of his planned three part research series looking into the divide between human performance research and education and the reality of actual coaching practice.
This episode is specifically focused on periodization. We chart the history of how periodization theory developed, and then we look at how coaches responded to a variety of questions about core concepts within periodization.
Kechi is a doctoral student at the German Sport University Cologne where he has been looking at various aspects of athlete preparation and how coaches perceive various theories, concepts and strongly held beliefs that exist in the training literature. His doctoral research is being supervised and helped by friend of the pod John Kiely from the University of Limerick and Lars Donath from the German Sport University Cologne. Kechi doesn't just focus on the theoretical, he is also passionate about training and coaching (especially weightlifting).
You can find the full text of Kechi's paper here.
We also discussed Yuri Verkhoshansky's paper "The End of 'Periodization' in the Training of High Performance Sport" an abbreviated translation of which can be found here.
The paper by Matt Clark that we mentioned is available on Modern War Institute here.
Some recommended further reading:
Foundations of Training Periodization Part I: Historical Outline by Jimmy Pedemonte
Foundation of Training Periodization Part II: The Objective of Periodization by Jimmy Pedemonte
From Russia with Love? Sixty years of proliferation of L.P. Matveyev’s concept of Periodisation? by Arnd Kruger
Kechi asked us to include on correction to the section when was discussing a system used in ancient Rome/Greece. The system was called the Tetrad. It is not known whether this was the only approach but it is one that has been popularly discussed due to it appearing in a book called 'On Gymnastics' by Philostratus. Below is the description:
By the tetrad system we mean a cycle of four days, each one of which is devoted to a different activity. The first day prepares the athlete; the second is an all-out trial; the third is relaxation; and the fourth a medium-hard workout. The exercise of the first day, the one that prepares him, is made up of short, intense movements which stir up the athlete and prepare him for the hard workout to follow on the next day. The strenuous day (the second) is an all-out test of his potential. The third, the day of relaxation, so to speak, employs his energy in a moderate way, while on the day of the medium workout (the last day), the athlete practices breaking holds himself and preventing his opponent from breaking away.

Dec 24, 2023 • 1h 14min
Three Things We've Changed Our Minds About with John Mackersie
On this episode we have John Mackersie joining us for a little end of year reflection.
John is a strength and conditioning coach with over 15 years of professional experience in collegiate athletics and military special operations. He began coaching in Division I athletics and has been working with special operations since 2013. He has spoken and lectured on numerous occasions at national and regional levels, including preparing aspiring coaches for certification exams. He is a strong believer in all things old school (he and Drew share an affinity for stone lifting) but also in integrating newer technologies. He has both his bachelors and masters in psychology, bringing a unique perspective to the strength and conditioning profession.
We each prepared for this conversation by thinking of three big things we’ve changed our minds on when it comes to human performance. A common theme was the difference between the “textbook” version of strength and conditioning and the reality of working with actual people who have complicated lives, specific preferences, and plenty of other priorities beyond fitness.
As you listen, think about what you’ve changed your mind on
when it comes to your own health and fitness. If you’re listening on Spotify we’ll have a Q&A button on this episode, or you can join us over on the Instagram page to share the lessons you’ve learned.


