

Celebrity Estates: Wills of the Rich and Famous
WealthManagement.Com
Welcome to the Celebrity Estates podcast. In this podcast we break down high profile celebrity estate planning cases for advisors and their clients. Most celebrity estate catastrophes are based on the same issues that everyday people face, just with the volume turned up. Our goal is to identify and extract the individual estate planning issues that lie at the heart of each story. We then discuss what advisors should expect and how to avoid common pitfalls.
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Nov 8, 2021 • 29min
Ep 56 – Elon Musk’s Charitable Limits With John Pantekidis
Between his six children and his illiquid assets in Tesla and SpaceX, Elon Musk’s claim to give half of his fortune to charity falls short. Yet only a few small steps would be required to increase his charitable giving and arrange support for his family.
In this episode, David Lenok is joined by John Pantekidis of Twin Focus Capital. John shares his insight into the financial situation of Elon Musk, who was recently named the richest man in the world.
John discusses Elon’s struggle to uphold his claims of philanthropic giving between his illiquid assets and support for a large family. John also discusses how others can avoid the pitfalls of keeping your wealth in illiquid assets and familial drama through premarital agreements and including the children in charity foundations.
John discusses:
Why a premarital agreement should have been included when Elon Musk first married
How his assets restrict his donation amount
What he should be doing to increase his charitable giving and passing money on to the next generation
The role of philanthropy in charitable giving
Connect With John Pantekidis:
Twin Focus
John Pantekidis
Connect With David Lenok:
david.lenok@informa.com
WealthManagement.com
About Our Guest:
John is a partner at TwinFocus Capital and serves as the Chief Investment Officer (CIO) and General Counsel. In this role, John maintains a close working relationship with TwinFocus clients to help them design and expedite their investment strategies. He also leads the firm’s research efforts to develop new and creative asset allocation policies, oversee due diligence for manager search and selection, as well as write thought leadership commentary on global macroeconomic topics. Additionally, he has a keen interest in alternative investment fund formation and structuring, as well as analyzing complex tax aspects of alternative investments, pioneering studies on how to make hedge fund investing more tax efficient from an income and wealth transfer tax perspective. He is especially active on behalf of offshore clients, developing strategies to overcome cross-border impediments, tax, legal, and regulatory challenges, as well as cultural sensitivities to maximize inter-generational wealth transfer and succession planning.

Oct 25, 2021 • 31min
Ep 55 – Britney Spears: How The Jump Conservatorship Skips Estate Planning With Megan Gorman
In 2008, following a very public breakdown, Britney Spears and her estate were placed under a conservatorship managed by her father, Jamie Spears.
Now 13 years later, Britney is contesting the conservatorship.
In this episode, David Lenok is joined once again by Megan Gorman from Chequers Financial Management. They dive into the legal wrangling of Birtney Spears’ estate and the conservatorship she is under.
Megan discusses:
The difference between a guardianship and a conservatorship
Available options before taking the conservatorship route
How the conservatorship impacted Britney’s net worth
The power that powers of attorney hold
And more
Connect With Megan Gorman:
LinkedIn: Megan Gorman
LinkedIn: Chequers Financial Management
Chequers Financial Management
Connect With David Lenok:
david.lenok@informa.com
WealthManagement.com
About Our Guest:
Megan is the founding partner of Chequers Financial Management, a fee-only planning firm that specializes in high net worth and ultra-high net worth families in San Francisco, California. Megan heads the firm’s family office services practice.
As well, Megan is a Senior Contributor for Forbes in personal finance and tax. She is also quoted regularly in the press as a tax and financial planning expert including such publications as The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post. She blogs at TheWealthIntersection.com, has appeared on numerous podcasts, and is a regular weekly commentator on The Money Tree Podcast.

Oct 11, 2021 • 30min
Ep 54 – James Brown: Philanthropy After Death With Robert Strauss
In this episode, David Lenok, senior editor at WealthManagement.com, is joined by Robert Strauss, shareholder and director of Weinstock Manion, specializing in guiding high net worth families, business owners, and real estate developers through the complex process of estate and wealth transfer planning.
Today’s celebrity example is the estate of legendary musician and American icon James Brown, including the fifteen years it took to settle his relatively simple estate. David and Robert discuss how charitable giving can help you avoid drawn out settlements after your death.
David and Robert discuss:
The importance of defining the clients’ wishes for their estate after they pass
Charitable giving before vs. after death
How family and legal dynamics can change after you are gone
How charitable gains are taxed
And more
Connect With Robert Strauss:
Robert Strauss
Weinstock Manion
Connect With David Lenok:
david.lenok@informa.com
WealthManagement.com
About Our Guest:
As a Partner at Weinstock Manion, I specialize in guiding high-networth families, business owners and real estate developers through the complex process of estate and wealth transfer planning. With an extensive background as a transactional attorney, I am able to effectively advise owners of businesses and real estate regarding business succession plans and pre-liquidity event wealth transfer plans. Further, I bring a creative and customized approach to all estate matters in order to reduce estate taxes, achieve liability and creditor protection and, if desired, incorporate charitable giving and life insurance planning.

Aug 30, 2021 • 23min
Ep 53 – The Information About Special Needs Trusts Everyone Needs To Hear With Gina Nelson
Gina Nelson, Senior Vice President at Chilton Trust Company and an estate planning attorney, dives into the intricacies of special needs trusts. She emphasizes how these trusts can preserve government benefits while providing additional support for individuals with disabilities. Discussion points include the importance of tailored trust planning, the risks of boilerplate solutions, and the need for flexibility in trust documents. Gina also highlights when to initiate special needs planning and the critical role of knowledgeable trustees in managing these trusts.

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Aug 9, 2021 • 27min
Ep 52 – Peter Bing: How Incorrect Terminology in an Estate Plan Can Cause Total Chaos With Megan Gorman
This week features Megan Gorman, a financial planning expert and Forbes contributor. She dives into the chaotic aftermath of a millionaire's decision to exclude two grandchildren from a trust. Megan highlights how family dynamics can complicate estate planning, emphasizing the importance of precise legal language. She also discusses the role of trust protectors in minimizing disputes and balancing control with flexibility in trust management. The conversation sheds light on how ambiguous terms can lead to prolonged legal battles and public scrutiny.

Jun 28, 2021 • 26min
Ep 51 – Preserving Your Inherited Collectibles with Barbara Archer
In this episode, David Lenok, senior editor at WealthManagement.com, speaks with Barbara Archer, managing director and partner at Hightower. David and Barbara speak about Barbra’s story of researching, purchasing and preserving art that can be shared with the world.
Today’s celebrity example begins with Lilly Pulitzer. Lilly quickly grew to fame through her fashion and bright coloured designs. But, an individual so often forgotten in Lilly’s story is Suzie Zuzek. Suzie, the artist behind the designs was once never recognized, but that has recently changed. Our guest shares the story of finding Suzie’s designs and the work it took to have them displayed in the Cooper Hewitt Smithsonian Design Museum. We use this example to understand the steps it takes to preserve collectibles.
Barbara discusses:
Her role in getting Suzie Zuzek’s designs into the Cooper Hewitt Smithsonian Design Museum
How advisors should handle the situation of clients wishing to invest in collectibles
The hidden costs associated with investing in collectibles
And more
Connect With Barbara Archer:
(314) 598-4060
Hightower Wealth Advisors
LinkedIn: Barbara Archer
Connect With David Lenok:
david.lenok@informa.com
WealthManagement.com
About Our Guest:
Barbara C. Archer is a consummate entrepreneur who sees her clients’ world through a creative financial lens. As a Managing Director and Partner of Hightower Wealth Advisors | St. Louis, she and the team are resourceful problem solvers who deliver valuable advice and investment guidance.

Jun 7, 2021 • 29min
Ep 50 – Warren Buffett – What Is Your Subconscious Relationship With Money? With Rick Kahler
Rick Kahler, president of Kahler Financial Group and expert in financial therapy, joins the discussion on the complex relationship with money, spotlighting Warren Buffett. They explore how childhood beliefs shape our financial decisions through 'money scripts.' Kahler explains how these scripts can become rigid and the challenges clients face in adapting during retirement. He also highlights the role of frugality in wealth accumulation and offers insights on transforming deep-seated money beliefs through awareness and financial therapy.

May 24, 2021 • 37min
Ep 49 – Clare Bronfman: Building Generational Wealth that Matters With Dan Griffith
In this episode, David Lenok, senior editor at WealthManagement.com, is joined by Dan Griffith, senior vice president and director of wealth strategy at Huntington Private Bank.
Today’s celebrity example is brought to you by Clare Bronfman. We discuss Clare’s journey into using generational wealth to fund a company with negative ties. We use this infamous case to dissect how financial advisors can assist clients in building generational wealth that matters.
Dan discusses:
Why educating the next generation about money is imperative
Strategies that can be used to put money into the hands of the next generation
How advisors can educate clients about the risks involved with generational wealth
The importance of having financial conversations with your family
And more
Connect With Dan Griffith:
Huntington Private Bank
LinkedIn: Dan Griffith
Connect With David Lenok:
david.lenok@informa.com
WealthManagement.com
About Our Guest:
Dan is an experienced attorney with a passion for helping families and business owners find solutions to their planning challenges. Dan develops insights for clients and writes and speaks about asset protection, estate tax issues and business succession planning.

Apr 26, 2021 • 26min
Ep 48 – Hugh Hefner: Plan it and Communicate it –– With Robert Wermuth and Kevin Donohue
In this episode, David Lenok, senior editor at WealthManagement.com, speaks with Rob Wermuth, senior partner and Kevin Donohue, partner at the Pennsylvania-based firm Legacy Planning about the intricacies of estate planning.
Today’s celebrity estate example is brought to us by Playboy Magazine founder and figurehead Hugh Hefner. Through the use of trusts, prenups and taking care of business deals during his life, Hefner left his family and his legacy in a very good place to move on from following his death.
You will learn:
How advisors can help clients take advantage of estate planning-focused transactions during their lifetime
How planning around a family business in your estate helps avoid the most common conflicts that often arise
The benefits of allowing your assets to grow outside of your estate
And more!
Hugh Hefner knew what he wanted, and made sure everyone on his team knew it too! Tune in for more details!
Resources: WealthManagement.com | Legacy Planning

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Apr 12, 2021 • 33min
Ep 47 – Aretha Franklin: Loose Ends Can Unravel Your Estate –– With Alex Weingarten
In this engaging discussion, Alex Weingarten, a commercial trial lawyer at Venable LLP, dives into the complexities of Aretha Franklin's estate saga. He highlights how the discovery of her handwritten wills led to significant disputes. Alex shares critical lessons on the necessity of a clear estate plan and the importance of communication among family members to prevent postmortem surprises. He also emphasizes addressing sentimental items proactively and the emotional toll of estate litigation, urging families to approach these discussions as opportunities for bonding.


