About Art

Christopher Bedford is the Director of the Baltimore Museum of Art, appointed in May 2016. Prior to joining the BMA, Bedford led the Rose Art Museum at Brandeis University in Massachusetts for four years. In November 2019, it was announced that the Baltimore Museum of Art would only purchase works made by female-identifying artists in 2020 as part of an effort to work towards “re-correcting the canon.” He and I discuss what putting art in the basement means, the decency and care of John Waters, reliance on attendance as revenue, living our principles in museums, philosophies of deaccessioning, the Sotheby’s auction on October 28, 2020, the urgency of caring for museum staff, having too much art while being undercapitalized, how museums can be relevant today, the importance of close listening, what a civic museum could look like, and  art that gives you an otherwise impossible idea! References: Lisa Yuskavage x Aspen Art Museum - https://www.aspenartmuseum.org/exhibitions/233-lisa-yuskavage-wilderness Baltimore Museum of Art - https://artbma.org Mickalene Thomas - https://www.mickalenethomas.com/about John Waters - could not find appropriate link Cindy Sherman - https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/1154 Starns - http://www.dmstarn.com Wolfgang Tillmans - https://tillmans.co.uk (referenced portrait of John Waters) Mark Bradford - https://www.hauserwirth.com/artists/2838-mark-bradford Venice Biennale - https://www.labiennale.org/en Rose Museum - https://www.brandeis.edu/rose/ Brice Marden - https://gagosian.com/artists/brice-marden/ *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

Noah Horowitz is Director Americas for Art Basel since 2015. He is based in New York and is in charge of Art Basel’s show in Miami Beach. Horowitz holds a PhD in art history from the  Courtauld Institute of Art, London. His doctoral thesis, Art of the Deal: Contemporary Art in a Global Financial Market, was published by the Princeton University Press in 2011. Previously he was managing director of The Armory Show in New York from 2011 until 2015. And prior to this, in 2009 he became Director of VIP Art Fair, a first-ever virtual international art fair. We discuss the intimacies of zoom, living with a blanket of uncertainty, positive intelligence, the first online art fair, the rhythm and consistency of the art world calendar, details of the art market report, what is good and great in the contemporary art, being cultural explorers and speaking the global language of art, and with gratitude for it—the continuous ability to be moved by art. References: Cory Muscara - https://corymuscara.com Positive Intelligence - https://www.positiveintelligence.com Art Basel - https://www.artbasel.com The Armory - https://www.thearmoryshow.com Marc Spiegler - Art Basel global director OVR 2020 - https://www.artbasel.com/ovr Peter Doig - https://www.moma.org/artists/8087 Michael Werner - https://www.michaelwerner.com Francois Ghebaly - http://ghebaly.com Peter Saul x New Museum - https://www.newmuseum.org/exhibitions/view/peter-saul-crime-and-punishment Meriem Bennani’s 2 Lizzards works on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/CCRSrRWDOW3/?igshid=1y1wnj1ywq601 *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

Pete McBride is a Native Coloradan who has spent two decades studying the world with a camera. A self-taught photographer, filmmaker, writer, and public speaker, he has traveled on assignment to over 75 countries for the National Geographic Society, Smithsonian, Google, The Nature Conservancy, and others. After a decade documenting remote expeditions from Everest to Antarctica, McBride decided to focus his cameras closer to home on a subject closer to his heart—his backyard river, the Colorado. His latest project replaced rafting with walking—a lot of it. Over the course of a year, McBride hiked the entire length of Grand Canyon National Park — over 750 miles without a trail — to highlight development challenges facing this iconic landscape. After completing the journey, National Geographic named him and his hiking companion “Adventurers of the Year.” He and Zuckerman discuss solitude, silence as the think tank of the soul, his decibel reading hobby, meditation as a way to control fear, a recent heart surgery, using photography to teach about health — our own and that of nature, achieving seemingly impossible things, the hooks of stories, the lessons in imperfection, and only doing things that make you nervous! References: Lao Tzu - “As long as you care what other people think you will always be their prisoner” Smithsonian Mag article - https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/photographs-last-quiet-places-180975765/ Gordon Hempton - https://www.soundtracker.com/about-gordon-hempton/ Oura Ring - https://ouraring.com National Geographic - https://www.nationalgeographic.com/contributors/m/photographer-pete-mcbride/ *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

Sean Green is the CEO and Founder of Arternal. Arternal helps art dealers better monetize their relationships. Born in Jamaica and raised in Toronto, Green has cultivated his entrepreneurialism since watching his mom run the family maid service. With a background in computer science, his previous start up connected homeowners to quality contractors. He and Zuckerman discuss the business of art from the collector’s perspective, the Wayfair ruling, caring about art surviving and thriving, entrepreneurial passion, his mom as a mentor, being a black founder in the artworld, focusing on data, David Leggett and Ebecho Muslimova, Clubhouse, their shared love of warm water, and how is art like medicine for your mind! References: Arternal - https://www.arternal.com The Social Dilemma - film Steve Miller - co founder David Leggett - https://davidleggettart.com/home.html Various Small Fires - http://www.vsf.la Shane Campbell Gallery - https://www.shanecampbellgallery.com Ebecho Muslimova - http://magentaplains.com/artists/ebecho-muslimova Incubator Program at The New Museum - https://www.newmuseum.org/pages/view/new-inc-1 Clubhouse - https://clubhouse.io *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

Patrick Steel is the CEO of POLITICO, which strives to be the dominant source for politics and policy in power centers across every continent where access to reliable information, non-partisan journalism and real-time tools creates, informs, and engages a global citizenry. Previously Steel spent 16 years as an investment banker and before that served in the Clinton White House. He and Zuckerman discuss seeing America through a political campaign, the importance of relationships in building careers, Hilary Clinton’s emails as art, being an extrovert, what transformational leadership looks like, go to questions, the profound impact of the technological revolution, taking strategic bets, compromise, and his predictions for the US Presidential election on November 3, 2020! This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. References: Kyle Richards - referenced IG live Kenny Goldsmith “Hillary: The Hillary Clinton Emails”  - https://www.neroeditions.com/product/hillary/ Venice Biennale - https://www.labiennale.org/en Politico - https://www.politico.com/ Jerome Powell - https://www.federalreservehistory.org/people/jerome-h-powell Playbook newsletter - https://www.politico.com/playbook *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

The Guerrilla Girls is an anonymous group of feminist, female artists devoted to fighting sexism and racism within the art world. The group formed in New York City in 1985 with the mission of bringing gender and racial inequality into focus within the greater arts community. The group employs cultural jamming in the form of posters, books, billboards, and public appearances to expose discrimination and corruption. To remain anonymous, members don gorilla masks and use pseudonyms that refer to deceased female artists. Their identities are concealed because issues matter more than individual identities, they want the focus to be on the issues, not on their personalities or their own work. Guerrilla Girls member Käthe Kollwitz and Zuckerman discuss facts, writing museum wall labels, the power of killer statistics, how Guerrilla Girls get added, changing people’s minds, being intersectional feminists, broadening museum collections, and how the further you get from New York the representation of women and artists of color in museums improves! References: Guerilla Girls: The Art of Behaving Badly - https://www.guerrillagirls.com/books Kynaston McShine - https://ccs.bard.edu/people/2318-kynaston-mc-shine Alma Thomas - https://americanart.si.edu/artist/alma-thomas-4778 Mary Cassat - https://www.marycassatt.org Georgia O’keeffe - https://www.okeeffemuseum.org/about-georgia-okeeffe/ Meret Oppenheim - https://m.theartstory.org/artist/oppenheim-meret/ Helen Frankenthaler - https://www.frankenthalerfoundation.org/artworks/paintings The Met - https://www.metmuseum.org/ Poster - https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artworks/guerrilla-girls-do-women-have-to-be-naked-to-get-into-the-met-museum-p78793 *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

Paul Becker is the Founder and CEO of Art Money. He is an art entrepreneur passionate about empowering people to engage with art through building a sustainable creative economy. Art Money is a global fin-tech helping buy and sell art through a win-win business model, partnering with over 1,000 galleries globally, in the US, Australia, and New Zealand. He and Zuckerman talked about his business model, the current state of the art world, where there are opportunities, collecting art as an addiction, and how an experience with a work of art can change your life! This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

Michelle Maccarone is the founder of eponymous gallery Maccarone. Shortly after 9/11 Maccarone opened in an unorthodox space in a remote neighborhood with no other galleries around. From the beginning, the gallery was an outlier in every way. It was artist-driven and grew out of conversations. It was more of a concept, or a laboratory for experimentation, that didn’t quite fit the traditional model of an art gallery. Recently the gallery's focus is beyond IRL exhibitions as a creative brand that not only manages artists and produces special projects, but also collaborates with venues and corporate partners to create experiences outside of the physical gallery space. She and Zuckerman talked about art collecting as hoarding, the unlimited possibilities of working digitally, art as a world practice instead of a studio practice,  the grand idea, the conceptual gesture of putting art on Ebay and Pornhub, upending artworld protocols, art in transition, fear of art, and freedom! References: Maccarone Gallery - http://maccarone.net/ Malcolm Gladwell podcast “Revisionist History” - http://revisionisthistory.com Richard Tuttle - https://www.pacegallery.com/artists/richard-tuttle/ “Dislocations” MOMA - https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/350 David Hammons - https://www.moma.org/artists/2486 Ilya Kabakov - http://www.kabakov.net/ Louise Bourgeois - https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/louise-bourgeois-2351 Chris Burden - https://gagosian.com/artists/chris-burden/ Sophie Calle - https://www.guggenheim.org/artwork/artist/sophie-calle *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

Jennifer Guidi is an artist known for her radiant, mandala-like paintings that incorporate sand, oil, and acrylic paint. Her work is an exploration of color, light, and texture, finding symmetry in opposition. The result of Guidi's compositions is both contemporary and timeless. She and Zuckerman talked about the attitude needed to make art, finding the perfect place, TikTok and home ec, meditation as a creative resource, how to empty everything out, the input and output of energy, mark making, and the courage and patience of finding your voice. References: Massimo de Carlo “Virtual Space” -  https://www.massimodecarlo.com/gallery/10/vspace The Jewish Museum - https://thejewishmuseum.org Peter Doig - https://www.moma.org/artists/8087 Magdalena Frimkess - https://hammer.ucla.edu/made-in-la-2014/magdalena-suarez-frimkess-michael-frimkess Dan McCarthy - https://www.antonkerngallery.com/artists/dan_mccarthy Shio Kusaka - https://gagosian.com/artists/shio-kusaka/ David Hockney - https://www.hockney.com/home Georgia O’keeffe - https://www.okeeffemuseum.org/about-georgia-okeeffe/ Alexander Tovborg - https://www.blumandpoe.com/artists/alexander_tovborg Sayre Gomez - https://www.sayregomez.com Yogic Path Oracle Cards - https://selenestone.com/products/a-yogic-path-oracle-deck Gagosian Hong Kong - https://gagosian.com/locations/hong-kong/ *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/

Rickey Gates has been described as a “conceptual runner” combining the practice of endurance running with the artistic mediums of photography and writing. After nearly a decade competing on a national and international mountain, trail and ultra running circuit, he took his love for ultra-endurance, storytelling and photography to his project-based runs that have included a run across America, every single street in San Francisco and currently the 50 classic trails of North America. His debut book Cross Country and feature-length film TransAmericana chronicle his 3,700 mile journey across the United States. He and Zuckerman discuss forced meditation, the poetry of the untaken URL, running to find a clean and safe mental state, why there is never too much, and how it is a luxury to suffer! References: Tom Simpson - https://www.rapha.cc/us/en_US/stories/discovering-the-real-tom-simpson Hunter Thompson - https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/rolling-stone-at-50-how-hunter-s-thompson-became-a-legend-115371/ Gretchen Bleiler - https://www.gretchenbleiler.com Transamericana - http://www.rickeygates.com Rich Roll - https://www.richroll.com Every Single Street - https://www.everysinglestreet.com Hamish Fulton - https://www.tate.org.uk/art/artists/hamish-fulton-1133 Helen Mirra - http://hmirra.net *** This episode is brought to you by Kelly Klee private insurance . Please check out their website: Kellyklee.com/Heidi and they will make a $50 donation to Artadia, an art charity I’ve recommended, per each qualified referral. This episode is brought to you by Best & Co. Please visit www.BestandCoAspen.com and use discount code Heidi2020 to receive 5% off of any item on the Best & Co. website.  If you are interested in creating a custom piece please email custom@bestandcoaspen.com and mention that you heard about Best & Co. on my podcast to receive the special discount. *** Interested in sponsoring the podcast? Please email press@hiz.art *** If you enjoy the podcast, would you please consider leaving a short review on Apple Podcasts/iTunes? It takes less than 60 seconds, and it really makes a difference in helping to convince hard-to-get guests.Follow Heidi: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heidizuckerman/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heidizuckerman LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidi-zuckerman-a236b55/