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Apr 8, 2025 ⢠1h 18min
SPA Girls Podcast â EP495 â Book Advertising Secrets with Nicholas Erik (Classic Replay)
This is a classic replay of one of our most popular advertising episodes, with guest Nicholas Erik, science fiction author and marketing expert. Whilst the facebook ad dashboard will have changed since we recorded this a few years ago, the strategy, tips and best practices discussed are just as relevant today. Well worth a relisten /rewatch!
You can find Nick at https://nicholaserik.com/
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Apr 1, 2025 ⢠55min
SPA Girls Podcast- EP494 â How To Strengthen Your Story Structure
đ Welcome back to the SPA Girls Podcast! Today, weâre diving into one of the most powerful tools in your writerâs toolkitâstory structure!
Whether youâre a plotter, pantser, or somewhere in between, a strong story structure is the secret sauce that keeps readers turning the pages. In this episode, weâll dive into chapter ârulesâ, beats, scenes and sequences, how to craft a compelling beginning, keep the momentum going in the middle, and deliver a satisfying, page-turning endingâwhile making sure your readers get exactly what they crave.
So grab a cup of coffee (or something stronger!), and letâs strengthen that story structure!
Resources mentioned:
Four Act Structure
https://www.masterclass.com/articles/four-act-structure
Helen Scheuerer on the SPA Girls Podcast EP #282
https://www.selfpublishingauthorspodcast.com/spa-girls-podcast-ep282-interview-with-helen-scheuerer/
Rachel Bailey â The Black Moment â SPA Girls Podcast EP80
https://www.selfpublishingauthorspodcast.com/spa-girls-podcast-ep82-the-black-moment-featuring-author-rachel-bailey/
Sara Rosett â SPA Girls Podcast EP133
https://www.selfpublishingauthorspodcast.com/spa-girls-episode-133-interview-with-sara-rosett-writing-cozy-mysteries/
Book mentioned: The Hating Game by Sally Thorne
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â Join us at the $10 tier, and youâll be invited to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group for authors, where we discuss all things self-publishing, marketing and writing PLUS answer all your burning questions.
All the info is at http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
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Mar 26, 2025 ⢠1h 19min
SPA Girls Podcast â EP493 â How To Edit Like A Pro (Classic Replay)
What ten editing tips should all authors know? We share in this classic replay of our interview with Editorial Consultant, Mary-Theresa Hussey.
Prior to becoming a freelance editorial consultant, Mary-Theresa (known as Matrice) worked at Harlequin for more than 25 years, editing nearly a thousand titles. As editor, senior and executive editor, she read, acquired, revised, rejected and critiqued triple that. Many of the books she has edited went on to find places on both the NYT and USA Today bestseller lists.
About Mary-Theresa Hussey
How do you recognize an editor? Aside from a love of finding typos in menus, guessing plots while halfway through movies, and an insatiable curiosity about the how and why, an editor will often be adaptable, flexible, know the rulesâand know when to ignore them because it makes a better story.
Mary-Theresa Husseyâalso known as Matriceâknew from the start she loved the stories found in booksâand that she didnât want to be a writer. Some courses in Villanova University where classmates critiqued each otherâs papers made her intrigued by the role of the person behind the author.
A native New Yorker, she worked with Harlequin for over 25 years, editing nearly a thousand titles. As editor, senior and executive editor she read, acquired, revised, rejected and critiqued triple that. Now sheâs bringing her experience to the freelance world.
Aside from her love of genre fiction, she likes tv and movies, traveling, taking pictures and browsing on the internet.
Sheâs always eager for the next good storyâand hoping itâs well-told.
Contact her at Matrice@GoodStoriesWellTold.com
Links Mentioned:
Resources mentioned:
Tiktok â follow @iamthatenglishteacher for grammar and punctuation tips
KM Weilandâs Structuring Your Novel (https://www.amazon.com/K-M-Weiland/e/B002RCXQ00/)
Enneagram : https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/type-descriptions
Myers Briggs: https://www.truity.com/test/type-finder-personality-test-new
Purdue Writing resources: https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/general_writing/grammar/index.html
đ The SPA Girls podcast is sponsored by everyone who supports us on Patreon. Thank you so much, we love our listeners and our patrons!
â Join us at the $10 tier, and youâll be invited to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group for authors, where we discuss all things self-publishing, marketing and writing PLUS answer all your burning questions.
All the info is at http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
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Mar 18, 2025 ⢠55min
SPA Girls Podcast â EP492 â Writer Roundtable
The SPA Girls get down and personal with a Q1 2025 catchup! From surprising successes, unexpected writing tips, hybrid publishing adventures to mindset resets, we Keep It Real in this wild author life.
Links mentioned:
Wendy Vella website , CA Phipps website, Trudi Jaye website
www.theauthorhelper.com
Vinci Books https://www.vinci-books.com/
Dragonblade Publishing https://www.dragonbladepublishing.com/
Maggie Marr (SPA Girls Podcast Episode #451 (https://www.selfpublishingauthorspodcast.com/spa-girls-podcast-ep451-interview-with-maggie-marr/ )
Heather Hildenbrand (SPAGirls Podcast Episode #434 (https://www.selfpublishingauthorspodcast.com/spa-girls-podcast-ep434-top-3-mindset-tips-for-authors-with-heather-hildenbrand/ )
Erin Wright (SPA Girls Podcast EP391 (https://www.selfpublishingauthorspodcast.com/spa-girls-podcast-ep391-how-to-successfully-publish-wide-with-erin-wright/ )
Maggie Stiefvater (https://maggiestiefvater.com/ )
Waitomo Caves https://www.waitomo.com/

Mar 11, 2025 ⢠1h 1min
SPA Girls Podcast â EP491 â Maximizing Your Backlist Sales with Laurelin Paige (Classic Replay)
A Classic Replay of an episode we recorded with the fabulous NYT Bestseller, Laurelin Page, a few years ago. Her advice is just as relevant today to invigorate sales on your backlist books.
Laurelin defines a backlist as a book thatâs more than 12 months old. Top tips she discussed in this podcast CRAMMED with amazing advice:
1. Keep a calendar for the upcoming year and write in your new releases, then pad around it with backlist titles for âworkingâ once a month
2. The easiest thing to recharge a book is designing a new cover â even if the old cover is good, people want to look at something new. Donât be precious with your covers.
3. Change your mindset from traditional book marketers: lean into the strengths that indie gives us â and thatâs likely changing covers annually
When considering her backlist, Laurelin first looks at making cover changes (for entire series ideally â if you canât afford to do them all at once, then save up rather than doing one at a time). She tries to pair a cover change with a bookbub / freebooksy / blog tour etc â treat the book like itâs a new thing
4. Experiment with lowering the price. A sale can attract new readers (once every six months). Always put your best book as your freebie.
Timeframe â itâs never too early to have a sale. Laurelin likes to wait to get the full price audience to see the book first, then reaches a new audience with a sale. For books in KU, she also prefers using five free days rather than a countdown deal.
5. Free Prequels â experiment with these (cliffhangery endings leading into the first book of the series) Need to be wide (can be just Nook for price matching) if youâre in KU. Can do these before AND after release. Laurelin plans prequels ahead of time.
6. REPACKAGE â especially if getting rights back from trad pubbed books, re-edit, retitle (with a note for readers), recover, always tell readers where to go to the next book.
7. Front and back matter: Laurelin has her full backlist listed in the front matter with a newsletter signup (free book monthly given away thanks to newsletter swaps with similar authors); backmatter focuses on the next step you want readers to take â ie next book.
8. Work your newsletter â send 2 / 3 times per month. Mention your other books frequently. Donât release then forget them â people need reminding. In every newsletter feature one of your backlist.
9. Marketing is cumulative. You have to keep pushing your backlist.
10. Consider moving in and out of KU if you have more than one book. Treat the move as a new release â do a blog tour etc.
11. Connect books in series, even if thereâs no connection for better read through (eg âSummer Reading Seriesâ.
12. Change Titles â is there a catchier way of reaching new readers? Ask what your title tells you about the book.
13. Make your book look new in a different way. Put it in a boxed set? If wide, look at what is ranking well in the Apple charts for your genre and examine cover trends; if KU, look at Amazon.
14. Bundle with other authors â eg âHot for the holidaysâ multi-author bundle
15. Donât shy away from reworking (editing / rewriting / repackaging) existing backlist if theyâre not selling
Donât take these tips in isolation. Itâs important to ask yourself the overarching question âWhat can I do to make people find this particular book?â
Stop focussing on release week and measuring your success (or failure!) with that. Get out of that mindset!
About Laurelin Paige
With millions of books sold worldwide, Laurelin Paige is a New York Times, Wall Street Journal and USA Today Bestselling Author. She is a sucker for a good romance and gets giddy anytime thereâs kissing, much to the embarrassment of her three daughters. Her husband doesnât seem to complain, however. When she isnât reading or writing sexy stories, sheâs probably singing, watching Killing Eve, or dreaming of Michael Fassbender. Sheâs also a proud member of Mensa International though she doesnât do anything with the organization except use it as material for her bio. Sheâs represented by Rebecca Friedman for literary and Jon Brown at Ensemble Entertainment for film.
Find Laurelin at: https://www.laurelinpaige.com/

Mar 4, 2025 ⢠53min
SPA Girls Podcast â EP490 â Successful Publishing On Kobo â With Tara Cremin of KWL
Today we welcome back Tara Cremin, Director of Kobo Writing Life (KWL) to chat about exciting new opportunities for authors on Kobo and her very best tips and tricks for selling more books and finding your readers!
Bio: Tara is the Director of Kobo Writing Life (KWL), Koboâs premier self-publishing platform, where she combines her passion for books with over a decade of expertise in indie publishing. As a dedicated advocate for independent authors, Tara works tirelessly to ensure KWL remains the most intuitive and author-friendly platform in the industry. She leads a team of enthusiastic book lovers who are deeply engaged in the indie publishing community, always striving to help authors expand their reach and connect with new readers worldwide.
In addition to her work behind the scenes, Tara regularly hosts live events featuring authors and industry experts, fostering conversations that inspire and inform the writing community. Sheâs also a familiar voice on the Kobo Writing Life Podcast, where she shares insights and interviews with leaders in the publishing world.
Links:
Kobo Writing Life : https://www.kobo.com/us/en/p/writinglife
KWL Podcast : https://www.kobo.com/us/en/p/kwlpodcast
đ The SPA Girls podcast is sponsored by everyone who supports us on Patreon. Thank you so much, we love our listeners and our patrons!
â Join us at the $10 tier, and youâll be invited to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group for authors, where we discuss all things self-publishing, marketing and writing PLUS answer all your burning questions.
All the info is at http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
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Feb 25, 2025 ⢠1h 2min
SPA Girls Podcast â EP489 â Interview with Lucy Score (Classic Replay)
Lucy Score is an instant #1 New York Times bestselling author and one of our all time favorite podcast guests (weâve interviewed her twice now). She is a fantastic example of great branding, great writing, great team work and immense talent for connecting with her readers. In this Classic Replay episode (2021), Lucy talked about her wonderful facebook group, connecting with readers and why relationships are SO important in your publishing business.
About Lucy
Lucy Score is an instant #1 New York Times bestselling author. She grew up in a literary family who insisted that the dinner table was for reading and earned a degree in journalism.
She writes full-time from the Pennsylvania home she and Mr. Lucy share with their obnoxious cat, Cleo. When not spending hours crafting heartbreaker heroes and kick-ass heroines, Lucy can be found on the couch, in the kitchen, or at the gym.
She hopes to someday write from a sailboat, oceanfront condo, or tropical island with reliable Wi-Fi.
Sign up for her never annoying newsletter at https://www.lucyscore.net/
đ The SPA Girls podcast is sponsored by everyone who supports us on Patreon. Thank you so much, we love our listeners and our patrons!
â Join us at the $10 tier, and youâll be invited to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group for authors, where we discuss all things self-publishing, marketing and writing PLUS answer all your burning questions.
All the info is at http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
âď¸ Visit http://www.SelfPublishingAuthorsPodcast.com for our FREE self-publishing resources, podcast episodes and info
đWatch our weekly show on YouTube @âspagirlspodcast
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Feb 18, 2025 ⢠47min
SPA Girls Podcast â EP488 â Kickstarter for Authors with Oriana Leckert
If youâve ever wondered about Kickstarter â where to start, if itâs right for you, and tips for running successful Kickstarter campaigns, this episode is for you!
Weâre delighted to have Oriana Leckert from Kickstarter here today to explain All Things Kickstarter for authors! What is it, and why should authors be using it? Oriana answers best practices for running a successful campaign, the challenges of Kickstarter and common mistakes authors make â and how to avoid them!
Explore Kickstarter at: https://www.kickstarter.com/
About Oriana Leckert
Oriana Leckert is deeply passionate about the written word, in all its wild and wonderful forms. She is currently the Director of Publishing & Comics Outreach at Kickstarter, and has long been a writer, editor, publishing and crowdfunding consultant, and cultural hipstorian [sic] in Brooklyn, NY.
Having worked in and around the media for more than a decade, Oriana was Kickstarterâs Senior Journalism Outreach Lead, Creative Content Director for Per La Mente, Director of Matchmaking at Gotham Ghostwriters, Editor-at-Large for Hyperallergic, Copyeditor at MTV News, Associate Editor at Random House, and a store manager at New Yorkâs famed Strand Bookstore. She has also served as a freelance editor for more than 100 publishers and websites, as well as offering a broad array of editorial services to individuals.
Find out more about Oriana at http://www.oriana-leckert.com/

Feb 12, 2025 ⢠52min
SPA Girls Podcast â EP487 â Strengths For Writers with Becca Syme (Classic Replay)
This is a SPA Girls Classic Replay of an amazing interview we did a few years ago with Becca Syme.
Becca Syme holds a masterâs degree in transformational leadership and has been a success coach (primarily utilizing the Gallup StrengthsfinderÂŽ) for over fifteen years. Sheâs coached over 5,000 individual authors and creatives through her Write Better-Faster and Strengths for Writers classes & coaching cohorts: six- and seven-figure authors, major award winners, midlisters, and new authors alike.
Becca talks to us about how we can all write better-faster in our writing careers, using our own unique skills to improve your chances of success. Itâs not about tips and techniques for getting more words per hour â itâs about understanding who you are as a writer, your strengths within that, and using those talents in the best way to ensure you are successful.
Note that some of the links and courses mentioned in the recording may have been updated.
For up to date information go to : https://betterfasteracademy.com/
đ The SPA Girls podcast is sponsored by everyone who supports us on Patreon. Thank you so much, we love our listeners and our patrons!
â Join us at the $10 tier, and youâll be invited to our private Self-Publishing Mastermind group for authors, where we discuss all things self-publishing, marketing and writing PLUS answer all your burning questions.
All the info is at http://www.patreon.com/spagirlspodcast
âď¸ Visit http://www.SelfPublishingAuthorsPodcast.com for our FREE self-publishing resources, podcast episodes and info
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Feb 5, 2025 ⢠1h 3min
SPA Girls Podcast â EP486 â Interview with Holly Roberds
Holly Roberds, spicy romance author and Booktok fav is here to tell us all about Building Fandoms and reaching Critical Mass with her publishing strategy. From facebook ads, pinterest boards, to her readers group, Holly gives actionable tips you can apply to your own author career, today!
âPeople crave identity, specialness and a place to belong.â ~ Holly Roberds
Resources mentioned:
Ana Huang interview with the SPA Girls https://www.selfpublishingauthorspodcast.com/spa-girls-podcast-ep404-interview-with-ana-huang/
RAM https://romanceauthormastermind.com/
BIO:
Holly Roberds started her writing journey with Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Terminator fanfiction before creating her own fantastical worlds brimming with fierce, if not slightly unhinged, heroines and spicy encounters.
As an Amazon Top 100 Bestseller and Booktok favorite, her paranormal romances have captivated a global audience. Proudly a Colorado girl, Holly jokes about her outdoorsy nature, which is limited to enjoying drinks on patios in Denver.
She subsists on the tears of her readers and feeds on their lack of sleep like a vampire, savoring every late-night page-turner she inspires.
Find Holly at: https://hollyroberds.com/
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