

Legacy
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From Wondery and Goalhanger Podcasts, Afua Hirsch and Peter Frankopan tell the wild stories of some of the most extraordinary men and women ever to have lived – and ask whether they have the rep they deserve. Should Nina Simone’s role in the civil rights movement be more celebrated than it is? When you find out what Picasso got up to in his studio, can you still admire his art? Was Napoleon a hero or a tyrant - or both? (And, while we’re at it, was he even short?) Legacy is the show that looks at big lives from the perspective of now – and doesn’t always like what it sees.
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Oct 2, 2024 • 47min
Marilyn Monroe | Drama, Drink and Drugs | 3
Marilyn Monroe, the iconic actress and model, candidly shares her journey of fame marred by insecurities and addiction. She discusses her struggles in Hollywood, including navigating the male-dominated film industry and her quest for artistic recognition. The podcast explores her complex relationships, notably with Arthur Miller, and her harrowing experiences on set. Marilyn also reflects on the tangled web of glamour, personal crises, and the weight of societal expectations, revealing the poignant struggles behind her renowned public persona.

Sep 25, 2024 • 47min
Marilyn Monroe | Becoming Marilyn | 2
In a captivating discussion, the iconic Marilyn Monroe delves into her tumultuous journey from struggling starlet to Hollywood legend. She reveals the exploitation she faced and her strategic reinvention into the iconic blonde bombshell. Monroe shares intimate confessions about the scandalous choices she made amidst intense scrutiny. The complexities of her relationships, her battle against the 'dumb blonde' stereotype, and her fierce independence are highlighted, showcasing her determination to establish her own path in a male-dominated industry.

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Sep 18, 2024 • 40min
Marilyn Monroe | The Foster Kid Who Loved The Movies | 1
In this touching discussion, young Marilyn Monroe shares her tumultuous journey from a troubled childhood filled with foster homes to finding solace in the magical world of movies. She reveals how her love for cinema became a refuge from the harsh realities of life, including her mother's struggles and her father's absence. Marilyn opens up about the trauma that shaped her, the misunderstood complexities of her identity, and her bold leap into the limelight as she transitioned from model to movie star, striving to embrace her true self amidst the Hollywood chaos.

Sep 11, 2024 • 35min
Encore: Cecil Rhodes | Must Rhodes Fall? | 4
The podcast dives into the contentious legacy of Cecil Rhodes, exploring student protests over his statue and its significance at the University of Cape Town. Voices from Zimbabwe reflect on the lasting impact of colonialism and land reforms, highlighting social inequalities. The discussion also tackles the ethical dilemmas surrounding initiatives like the Rhodes Scholarship. Personal stories of survival during Zimbabwe's hyperinflation reveal the ongoing struggle against historical injustices, challenging listeners to reconsider how we address our colonial past.

Sep 4, 2024 • 33min
Encore: Cecil Rhodes | A Brooding Spirit | 3
Cecil Rhodes grapples with the fallout from a tumultuous raid on the Boer Republic, stirring debate in British politics. As his health declines, his ambition clashes with the consequences of his actions. The narrative reveals his transformation from an oppressive figure to a conflicted peacemaker. The legacy of Rhodes evokes mixed emotions, from a grand funeral turnout to protests highlighting colonial oppression. The struggle for independence in Southern Rhodesia adds layers to his controversial impact on history.

Aug 28, 2024 • 41min
Encore: Cecil Rhodes | The Rise of Rhodesia | 2
Cecil Rhodes, a controversial colonial figure, reflects on his turbulent legacy and ruthless ambition in Southern Africa. He shares his emotional journey as he rushes to be with his dying friend, confronting grief alongside colonial aspirations. Rhodes discusses his manipulative dealings with local leaders like King Lobengula and the brutal realities of his imperial tactics. He also touches on the oppressive policies he supported, such as the Strop Bill, highlighting the profound impact of his actions on racial dynamics and the development of apartheid.

Aug 21, 2024 • 45min
Encore: Cecil Rhodes | Eureka! | 1
Cecil Rhodes, a controversial figure in British imperialism, shares his complex journey from a sickly vicar’s son to a powerful figure in the diamond rush of Southern Africa. He discusses the tensions between indigenous populations and colonial forces, and the socio-economic upheaval that diamonds brought. Listeners learn about the harsh realities of early diamond mining, the establishment of De Beers, and the intricate balance of personal ambition and loyalty, particularly in his relationship with N.E. Pickering during challenging times.

Aug 14, 2024 • 44min
Bob Marley | One Love | 4
Bob Marley, a legendary musician known for his impactful political messages and contributions to reggae music, reflects on his tumultuous journey. Despite facing an assassination attempt, he perseveres to promote peace in Jamaica and unity across the globe. The podcast delves into the creation of his iconic album 'Exodus' and his unforgettable concert that bridged divided audiences. Marley's music resonates with marginalized communities, and his final work 'Redemption Song' encapsulates his profound legacy of empowerment and resilience.

Aug 7, 2024 • 43min
Bob Marley | Catching Fire | 3
Bob Marley, a legendary musician known for his influential reggae beats and revolutionary lyrics, dives into the rich tapestry of his life and music. He discusses the cultural impact of his groundbreaking album 'Catch a Fire' and the intricate balance between fame and personal struggles. Marley reveals how political turmoil in Jamaica escalated threats to his safety, including a shocking assassination attempt. Through his journey, he illustrates the deep connections between his music, Rastafarian faith, and the fight for social justice.

Jul 31, 2024 • 46min
Bob Marley | The Rise of the Rasta | 2
Bob Marley, the iconic musician who championed peace through his reggae music, shares insights into his transformative journey with the Wailers in Jamaica. Joining him is Rita, his steadfast partner, who plays a crucial role in his introduction to Rastafarianism. They discuss Marley's unwavering dedication to music and the challenges they faced amid Jamaica's fight for independence. Rita also recounts her encounter with Haile Selassie, shedding light on the spiritual roots of Rastafarian beliefs and their impact on their identity and artistic expression.