

Legacy
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From Wondery and Goalhanger Podcasts, Afua Hirsch and Peter Frankopan tell the wild stories of some of the most extraordinary men and women ever to have lived – and ask whether they have the rep they deserve. Should Nina Simone’s role in the civil rights movement be more celebrated than it is? When you find out what Picasso got up to in his studio, can you still admire his art? Was Napoleon a hero or a tyrant - or both? (And, while we’re at it, was he even short?) Legacy is the show that looks at big lives from the perspective of now – and doesn’t always like what it sees.
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Feb 12, 2025 • 46min
Genghis Khan | The Unstoppable Khan | 2
Discover the rise of Genghis Khan as he unites the Mongolian tribes under his powerful rule. Explore his innovative military strategies that led to decisive victories over former allies. The podcast dives into significant battles, the establishment of a legal code, and the unique governance that fostered loyalty among his warriors. Learn about the Mongols' exceptional cavalry tactics and their ability to adapt, setting the stage for transformative conquests and global trade expansion. Unravel the complexities of Khan's leadership in shaping history.

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Feb 5, 2025 • 48min
Genghis Khan | Survival of the Fittest | 1
The podcast dives into the early life of Temujin, showcasing his exceptional hunting and riding skills. As he faces the harsh aftermath of his father's death, he begins to attract followers, hinting at his future as Genghis Khan. It explores the complex legacy of Genghis Khan, emphasizing his contributions to peace and education rather than just his conquest. Alongside tales of survival and destiny, the discussion critiques biased historical narratives around his reign, unveiling the intricate social hierarchies and strategies that propelled him to power.

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Jan 29, 2025 • 39min
Marie Antoinette | The Grim Finale | 4
The trial of Marie Antoinette unfolds as her son is manipulated into making shocking accusations. With the execution of Louis XVI behind her, her fate seems sealed amid the chaos of revolution. Her emotional struggles are revealed through her daughter's eyes, portraying a poignant sense of loss and isolation. The grim reality of her last days in prison is explored, highlighting themes of gender and justice. As she faces her execution, the narrative captures her dignity and the continuing conversation about her complex legacy in today’s world.

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Jan 22, 2025 • 46min
Marie Antoinette | At The Mercy of The Mob | 3
The tension escalates as revolutionaries approach Versailles, and Marie Antoinette cleverly uses a secret passage to escape danger. Amid chaos, the royal family grapples with their declining power and public resentment. Struggles mount for a desperate escape from Paris, marked by failed plans and rising hostility. The podcast vividly captures the emotional turmoil and tragic fate of the monarchy, culminating in heart-wrenching familial moments as Louis XVI faces execution. It's a gripping tale of survival amidst revolution.

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Jan 15, 2025 • 44min
Marie Antoinette | Queen of Scandal | 2
At 18, Marie Antoinette finds herself burdened with the expectation to produce an heir. Her extravagant lifestyle clashes with the suffering of starving citizens. Amidst political unrest, rumors of infidelity swirl around her chaotic marriage. The dramatic fall from grace escalates with the infamous diamond necklace scandal, further tarnishing her reputation. As France's economy crumbles, personal and political turmoil deepens, setting the stage for a revolution that looms ominously over her reign.

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Jan 8, 2025 • 44min
Marie Antoinette | A Princess and a Pawn | 1
At just 14, Marie Antoinette is married off in a high-stakes royal game, but her husband seems more interested in locks than love. The podcast delves into her life, revealing the extensive myths and propaganda surrounding her, often skewed by her gender. As political tensions mount and history shifts, she finds herself caught between personal sacrifice and public scrutiny. The complexities of her royal marriage and the high expectations from her lineage highlight her emotional struggles and the challenges of ruling as the last Queen of France.

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Jan 1, 2025 • 44min
Charles Dickens | The Final Curtain | 4
Explore the tumultuous life of Charles Dickens at the peak of his fame. Discover his whirlwind romance with Nelly Ternan and his deep admiration for Paris. Relive the harrowing train crash that turned his public persona upside down while he grappled with personal turmoil. Dive into the emotional weight of his final performance and the themes of sacrifice in his beloved works. Ultimately, reflect on Dickens' complex legacy and enduring impact on literature and society.

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Dec 27, 2024 • 48min
Legacy and British Scandal Special: The Scandalous Life of Charles Dickens | 5
In this engaging discussion, host Matt Forde welcomes Afua Hirsch, a renowned writer and advocate, and Peter Frankopan, a historian and author. They dive into the scandalous life of Charles Dickens, exploring his tumultuous home life rife with extravagance, infidelity, and personal turmoil. The trio examines the contradictions of Dickens as both a literary genius and a flawed man, while also unpacking his profound influence on modern Christmas traditions. Listeners are sure to be captivated by the unexpected layers of this iconic figure's legacy.

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Dec 25, 2024 • 52min
Charles Dickens | A Very Dickens Christmas | 3
Explore the rise of Charles Dickens as an international celebrity inspired by his hit, 'A Christmas Carol.' Discover how he tackled social issues through his writing while managing a lavish lifestyle and family responsibilities. Delve into Dickens' influence on modern Christmas traditions and his complex portrayals of women. Touch on his heart-wrenching personal losses, including the tragic death of his daughter, and the emotional turmoil surrounding his marriage. This journey highlights the contrast between his public success and private struggles.

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Dec 18, 2024 • 49min
Charles Dickens | Dickensmania | 2
Charles Dickens experiences a meteoric rise with hits like 'The Pickwick Papers' and 'Oliver Twist', sparking 'Dickensmania' in both Britain and America. Amidst his success, he faces personal tragedies and needs fresh inspiration. Exploring innovative storytelling and deep emotional connections, he reflects on love and loss. His tumultuous American tour reveals the complexities of fame and social justice themes in his work. Ultimately, a pivotal Christmas tale emerges, redefining modern holiday spirit and kindness.