

The Unconventional Path: Entrepreneurship and Innovation Stories and Ideas.
Bela Musits
Explore how to build and grow your business in today’s global marketplace. In each episode, we try to capture and share the essence of how interesting people often take unconventional paths to build their business, some of whom succeed, some who do not.
The hosts for this podcast series are Bela Musits, former business school professor, venture capitalist, and entrepreneur based in upstate New York, and Mike Wasserman, professor of international management at the University of Applied Sciences in Münster, Germany.
The hosts for this podcast series are Bela Musits, former business school professor, venture capitalist, and entrepreneur based in upstate New York, and Mike Wasserman, professor of international management at the University of Applied Sciences in Münster, Germany.
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Feb 3, 2020 • 1h 8min
EP-70 Adam Robinson - Founder GetEmails
Hello listeners, today's guest is Adam Robinson, founder of GetEmails. Adam is a serial entrepreneur who started his career working on Wall Street and then the 2008 crash happened. This is when Adam decided to start his entrepreneurial adventure. He has launched several companies including Robly Email Marketing, which was rated number 1 in customer satisfaction across the entire email marketing space. His current company, GetEmails, is pioneering the next generation of email marketing organizations.
You can find more information about GetEmails here:
https://getemails.com/
Check out Adam's blog here:
https://blog.getemails.com/
We love to hear from our listeners, send us your questions, comments, and suggestions at bela.and.mike@gmail.com - we will answer your questions in a future episode.
Mike and I would like to thank the law firm of Phillips Lytle LLP for sponsoring this podcast episode. We are proud to partner with Phillips Lytle because of the entrepreneurial approach they take to legal matters and their long history of success with startup businesses. Please reach out to Phillips Lytle Partner Rich Honen at 518-618-1225 or visit PhillipsLytle.com.
Thanks for listening,
Bela and Mike

Jan 27, 2020 • 1h 1min
EP-69 Tom Rosecrans - RockSport Indoor Climbing Gym
Hello listeners, today's guest is Tom Rosecrans. A high school teacher during the day and an entrepreneur rock climber on nights and weekends, Tom and a partner started RockSport, an indoor climbing facility back when most of the world did not know what that was. Over the last 30 years, he has successfully grown the business organically. Ten years ago Tom retired from teaching and recently open a purpose-built facility for his thriving business. We had a wonderful conversation about organic growth, building a community, and several very important things Tom learned about hiring staff.
You can find more information about RockSport here:
https://rocksportny.com/
We love to hear from our listeners, send us your questions, comments, and suggestions at bela.and.mike@gmail.com - we will answer your questions in a future episode.
Mike and I would like to thank the law firm of Phillips Lytle LLP for sponsoring this podcast episode. We are proud to partner with Phillips Lytle because of the entrepreneurial approach they take to legal matters and their long history of success with startup businesses. Please reach out to Phillips Lytle Partner Rich Honen at 518-618-1225 or visit PhillipsLytle.com.
Thanks for listening,
Bela and Mike

Jan 20, 2020 • 1h 2min
EP-68 Abe Kamarck - founder of True Made Foods
Hello listeners, today's guest is Abe Kamarck, the founder of True Made Foods. We had a wonderful discussion about how his concern for his children's sugar intake spawned True Make Foods and their product line of low sugar/no sugar condiments that are naturally sweetened with vegetables. Abe shared the many challenges of starting a food product business and competing with the "big" boys.
You can find more information about True Made Foods here:
https://www.truemadefoods.com/
We love to hear from our listeners, send us your questions, comments, and suggestions at bela.and.mike@gmail.com - we will answer your questions in a future episode.
Mike and I would like to thank the law firm of Phillips Lytle LLP for sponsoring this podcast episode. We are proud to partner with Phillips Lytle because of the entrepreneurial approach they take to legal matters and their long history of success with startup businesses. Please reach out to Phillips Lytle Partner Rich Honen at 518-618-1225 or visit PhillipsLytle.com.
Thanks for listening,
Bela and Mike

Jan 13, 2020 • 56min
EP-67 Jackie Ducci: Author and founder of Ducci and Associates.
Hello listeners, Today's guest is Jackie Ducci. She is the founder of Ducci and Associates, a recruiting firm that connects companies with prospective employees. We have a great conversation about the important factors in hiring and in looking for a position. Jackie shared some great tips that are important to both companies looking to hire and individuals looking for opportunities. Jacki is also an author of the book, "Almost Hired: What's Really Standing between You and the Job You Want" The title says it all.
You can find more information about Ducci and Associates here:
https://ducciassociates.com/
Jackie's book can be found here:
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=jackie+Ducci&ref=nb_sb_noss
We love to hear from our listeners, send us your questions, comments, and suggestions at bela.and.mike@gmail.com - we will answer your questions in a future episode.
Mike and I would like to thank the law firm of Phillips Lytle LLP for sponsoring this podcast episode. We are proud to partner with Phillips Lytle because of the entrepreneurial approach they take to legal matters and their long history of success with startup businesses. Please reach out to Phillips Lytle Partner Rich Honen at 518-618-1225 or visit PhillipsLytle.com.
Thanks for listening,
Bela and Mike

Jan 6, 2020 • 1h 5min
EP-66 Janet Tanguay - Founder The Hammock Way of Life and The Biz Idea Shower
Hello listeners, Today's guest is Janet Tanguay. She had founded several companies and written two childrens books, She is also an accomplished artist. Janet tells a great story about how a failed art class project was a pivotal moment in her life. She shared some great tips about networking and finding happiness in life.
You can find more information about The Hammock Way of Life here:
https://www.hammockwayoflife.com/
You can find more information about The Biz Idea Shower here:
https://bizideashower.com/
Janet's books can be found here:
Be Bee, By Janet Tanguay
We love to hear from our listeners, send us your questions, comments, and suggestions at bela.and.mike@gmail.com - we will answer your questions in a future episode.
Mike and I would like to thank the law firm of Phillips Lytle LLP for sponsoring this podcast episode. We are proud to partner with Phillips Lytle because of the entrepreneurial approach they take to legal matters and their long history of success with startup businesses. Please reach out to Phillips Lytle Partner Rich Honen at 518-618-1225 or visit PhillipsLytle.com.
Thanks for listening,
Bela and Mike

Dec 30, 2019 • 1h 5min
EP-65 George McGehrin - Founder and President of McGehrin Group
Hello listeners, Today's guest is Geroge McGehrin. George is the founder and President of McGehrin Group. We had a wonderful conversation about recruiting and executive coaching. In addition to helping corporations find and recruit talent, he works with individuals to help them identify and communicate their talents beyond the typical resume. He shared some great tips during our conversation.
You can find more information about The McGehrin Group here:
https://www.mcgehringroup.com/
We love to hear from our listeners, send us your questions, comments, and suggestions at bela.and.mike@gmail.com - we will answer your questions in a future episode.
Mike and I would like to thank the law firm of Phillips Lytle LLP for sponsoring this podcast episode. We are proud to partner with Phillips Lytle because of the entrepreneurial approach they take to legal matters and their long history of success with startup businesses. Please reach out to Phillips Lytle Partner Rich Honen at 518-618-1225 or visit PhillipsLytle.com.
Thanks for listening,
Bela and Mike

Dec 23, 2019 • 51min
EP-64 Mike & Shelley Spain - Chef Co-Founders of Seneca
Hello listeners, Today's guests are Mike & Shelley Spain. After attending the Culinary Institute of America, (CIA) and gaining some important work experience, they decided to blaze out on their own and started Seneca - a fine-food restaurant were they are passionate about local ingredients and respecting tradition. We did the interview at Seneca and I was impressed with the welcoming atmosphere built from exposed brick and natural barn wood. You can also glimpse into the open kitchen and custom wood-fired grill and see Chefs Mike or Shelley creating their masterpieces.
You can find more information about Seneca here:
https://seneca-saratoga.com/
We love to hear from our listeners, send us your questions, comments, and suggestions at bela.and.mike@gmail.com - we will answer your questions in a future episode.
Mike and I would like to thank the law firm of Phillips Lytle LLP for sponsoring this podcast episode. We are proud to partner with Phillips Lytle because of the entrepreneurial approach they take to legal matters and their long history of success with startup businesses. Please reach out to Phillips Lytle Partner Rich Honen at 518-618-1225 or visit PhillipsLytle.com.
This podcast produced by our friends at Bizi Media
Thanks for listening,
Bela and Mike

Dec 16, 2019 • 60min
EP-63 Tami Cole - CEO at Docstrats
Hello listeners, Today's guest is Tami Cole. Five years ago she acquired a long-standing company from its founder. That makes for an interesting journey for sure. Tami shares the ups and downs of transitioning a company from its founder to new leadership and the lessons she has learned along the way. Tami's background includes nearly twenty years in designing and implementing business applications, working for two of the well-known consulting companies; CGI (previously Deloitte Consulting/DRT Systems), and with PwC.
You can find more information about Docstrats here:
http://www.docstrats.com/index.html
We love to hear from our listeners, send us your questions, comments, and suggestions at bela.and.mike@gmail.com - we will answer your questions in a future episode.
Mike and I would like to thank the law firm of Phillips Lytle LLP for sponsoring this podcast episode. We are proud to partner with Phillips Lytle because of the entrepreneurial approach they take to legal matters and their long history of success with startup businesses. Please reach out to Phillips Lytle Partner Rich Honen at 518-618-1225 or visit PhillipsLytle.com.
This podcast produced by our friends at Bizi Media
Thanks for listening,
Bela and Mike

Dec 9, 2019 • 1h 10min
EP-62 Ian Measeck: Adirondack Paint and Paper - A Family Business
Hello listeners, Today's guest is Ian Measeck. Ian along with his father run the family business, a house painting and wallpaper company. The business was started by Ian's father and Ian joined the business several years ago. We had a great conversation about the advantages and challenges of being part of a family business. Ian and I discussed the challenge of finding, hiring, and retaining skilled trades employees. We also discussed building a reputation and brand based on quality and not price.
You can find more information about Adirondack Paint and Paper here:
https://www.adkpaint.com/
We love to hear from our listeners, send us your questions, comments, and suggestions at bela.and.mike@gmail.com - we will answer your questions in a future episode.
Mike and I would like to thank the law firm of Phillips Lytle LLP for sponsoring this podcast episode. We are proud to partner with Phillips Lytle because of the entrepreneurial approach they take to legal matters and their long history of success with startup businesses. Please reach out to Phillips Lytle Partner Rich Honen at 518-618-1225 or visit PhillipsLytle.com.
This podcast produced by our friends at Bizi Media
Thanks for listening,
Bela and Mike

Dec 2, 2019 • 1h 9min
EP-61 Chris Martell: President and Co-founder of Druthers Brewing Company
Hello listeners, Today's guest is Chris Martell. Chris and his brother co-founded Druthers, a very successful micro brew-pub and restaurant. It's a fascinating story of how life takes many twists and turns but having drive and leadership skills will present many opportunities to you. Chris' journey started at Enterprise Rent-a-Car, then law school, followed by working at top law firm doing high-end finance transactions, to finding his passion in starting a micro brew-pub. Druthers is one of the most successful restaurants in the region and has grown to three locations.
You can find more information about Druthers here: http://www.druthersbrewing.com/about
We love to hear from our listeners, send us your questions, comments, and suggestions at bela.and.mike@gmail.com - we will answer your questions in a future episode.
Mike and I would like to thank the law firm of Phillips Lytle, LLP for sponsoring this podcast episode. We are proud to partner with Phillips Lytle because of the entrepreneurial approach they take to legal matters and their long history of success with startup businesses. Please reach out to Phillips Lytle Partner Rich Honen at 518-618-1225 or visit PhillipsLytle.com.
This podcast produced by our friends at Bizi Media
Thanks for listening,
Bela and Mike