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Join us for thought provoking conversations on surveillance, digital privacy, and cybersecurity law and policy in the information age. Each week, hosts Dave Bittner and Ben Yelin break down the headlines, legal cases, and policy battles that matter most.
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Jan 13, 2021 • 45min
Diversity has to be part of the mission in cybersecurity.
On this week’s show, we've got Dave's conversation with David Forscey with the Aspen Institute on their new Cybersecurity Collaborative Network, Ben shares why we were late getting started recording Caveat for 2021, Ben's story covers the ongoing issues with facial recognition software, and Dave has the story of California upholding restrictions on Stingrays.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
Unregulated facial recognition must stop before more Black men are wrongfully arrested
Study: AVs May Not Detect Darker-Skinned Pedestrians As Often As Lighter Ones (related story)
Court Upholds Legal Challenge Under California Statewide Stingray Law
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Jan 6, 2021 • 39min
Encore: Dressing for privacy.
Ben shares a story about dressing for privacy, Dave has the tale of location data putting an innocent man at the scene of a crime, and later in the show our interview with Admiral James Stavridis. He is the former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
Dressing for the Surveillance Age
Google data puts innocent man at the scene of a crime
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Dec 30, 2020 • 46min
Encore: EU-US Privacy Shield invalidated.
Dave has a story about police foundations buying hacking tools for local law enforcement, Ben looks at California’s prop-24 fight over the future of privacy, Dave takes a look at the conclusions of a House report that many of tech’s biggest firms are enjoying unfair monopoly power, and later in the show our conversation with Travis Leblanc from Cooley on the European court Invalidating the EU-US Privacy Shield.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:The Fight Over the Fight Over California’s Privacy FutureApple, Google, Facebook and Amazon abused monopoly power, House report saysGot a question you'd like us to answer on our show? You can send your audio file to caveat@thecyberwire.com or simply leave us a message at (410) 618-3720. Hope to hear from you. Thanks to our sponsor, KnowBe4. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dec 23, 2020 • 44min
Interim cybersecurity compliance rule prior to CMMC with some privacy thrown in.
Ben covers a privacy story of California dealing with Uber, Dave's got the story of the FTC demanding information from social media companies, Listener on the Line Mitch has a throwback to an older episode's use of "weasel words," and later in the show, Dave's conversation with Michelle Litteken from Morris, Manning & Martin, LLP on an unexpected cybersecurity compliance rule that is forcing government contractors to act quickly.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
Amazon, TikTok, Facebook, Others Ordered To Explain What They Do With User Data
California fines Uber $59 million, threatens license over refusal to hand over sexual assault data
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Dec 16, 2020 • 51min
We don't know what we need, until we do with facial recognition.
Ben looks at potential antitrust suits against Facebook, Dave looks at anti-hate speech laws in Germany that are serving as models for authoritarians around the world, our international LOTL asks about what the privacy of instant messaging platforms looks like in the US, and later in the show, Dave's conversation with Jennifer Strong, host of the new MIT Technology Review podcast, "In Machines We Trust."While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
State, federal authorities expected to file antitrust lawsuits against Facebook on Wednesday
Germany’s Online Crackdowns Inspire the World’s Dictators
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Dec 9, 2020 • 46min
A pandemic is a perfect environment for disinformation to thrive.
Ben looks at the US Supreme Court’s potential interpretations of the computer fraud and abuse act, Dave's got a report out of the UK on AI algorithm oversight, and later in the show, Dave's conversation with Nina Jankowicz, Disinformation Fellow from the Wilson Center on her book: How to Lose the Information War: Russia, Fake News, and the Future of Conflict.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
Argument analysis: Justices seem wary of breadth of federal computer fraud statute
The algorithms are watching us, but who is watching the algorithms?
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Dec 2, 2020 • 50min
Defining digital sovereignty: there's no such place as cyberspace.
Ben has the story of Amazon allegedly spying on warehouse workers, Dave has an overview of how cyber policy may play out in a Biden Administration, and later in the show Dave's conversation with Robert Carolina. He is general counsel for the Internet Systems Consortium, and a senior visiting fellow in the Information Security Group at the University of London. While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
Secret Amazon Reports Expose the Company’s Surveillance of Labor and Environmental Groups
How cyber policy will evolve under Biden
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Nov 25, 2020 • 39min
Protecting the integrity of information and maintaining privacy.
Ben has an update on Baltimore’s spy plane, Dave wonders about the tension between free speech, disinformation and public health, and later in the show Dave's conversation with Laura Noren, NYU Visiting Professor of Data Science and VP of Privacy & Trust at Obsidian Security on who governs the cloud and what data protection regulations are actually enforceable.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
Appeals court rules Baltimore “spy plane” does not violate privacy rights
Tweet Dave discusses
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Nov 18, 2020 • 39min
Playing into the hands of our adversaries.
Ben looks facial recognition technology being used on protesters, Dave's got the story of ICE and DHS buying up moment-by-moment mobile device location data, and later in the show Dave's conversation with Jamil Jaffer from IronNet Security.While this show covers legal topics, and Ben is a lawyer, the views expressed do not constitute legal advice. For official legal advice on any of the topics we cover, please contact your attorney. Links to stories:
Facial recognition used to identify Lafayette Square protester accused of assault
DHS Authorities Are Buying Moment-By-Moment Geolocation Cellphone Data To Track People
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Nov 11, 2020 • 5min
Elizabeth Wharton: Strong shoulders for someone else to stand on. [Legal] [Career Notes]
As we are not publishing in observance of Veterans Day, we thought you might like to check out an episode of our weekly Career Notes short form podcast that comes out on Sundays. Check it out and subscribe today! Technology attorney and startup chief of staff Elizabeth Wharton shares her experiences and how she came to work with companies in technology. Elizabeth talks about how she always liked solving problems and Nancy Drew mysteries, but not litigation. These morphed finding into her home in the policy legal world and some time later, technology law. Elizabeth describes how she loves planning and strategy in her work and encourages others to ask questions and absorb all of the information. Our thanks to Elizabeth for sharing her story with us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices


