
The API Experience Podcast
Hosts Matt McLarty and Mike Amundsen take a look across the digital landscape and identify key focus areas that are currently impacting the world of APIs, Integration, and Business.
Latest episodes

Jun 5, 2025 • 42min
S2 E5 The History and Future of the API Evangelist
In this episode, Kin Lane joins Mike and Matt to share his experience as a builder and leader in the global API community, to recount some of the biggest lessons he has learned along the way, and to discuss what he sees in the future for APIs.

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May 20, 2025 • 46min
S2 E4 - APIs, MCP, and Agentic Capabilities
Christian Posta, Field CTO at solo.io, dives into the fascinating intersection of APIs and AI agents. He discusses the Model Context Protocol (MCP) and its enterprise readiness, revealing both excitement and caution in the industry. The conversation covers the evolution of APIs amidst Kubernetes and the complexities of transforming innovative concepts into real-world solutions. Christian also highlights the security risks in API design and the pressing need for collaboration among developers to maximize MCP's effectiveness.

May 6, 2025 • 34min
S2 E3 - APIs in the Deep End
In this episode, Mike and Matt are joined by Alli Deacon of GraceBlood LLC. Alli shares her unique path into the application integration business, her experience incorporating APIs into a world of EDI and ERP's, as well as some of the unique business challenges she has faced and solved in sorting out increasingly complex supply chains for her customers.

Apr 28, 2025 • 1h 3min
S2 E2 - Unbundling the Enterprise through APIs
In this episode, Mike talks to Matt and Stephen Fishman about their new book, Unbundling the Enterprise. They dig into what the authors learned about the business side of APIs from interviewing experts from more than 20 organizations.
Unbundling the Enterprise - https://itrevolution.com/product/unbundling-the-enterprise/
Design Rules by Carliss Baldwin & Kim Clark - https://direct.mit.edu/books/monograph/1856/Design-Rules-Volume-1The-Power-of-Modularity
The Yegge Rant - https://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse452/23wi/papers/yegge-platform-rant.html

Apr 7, 2025 • 40min
S2 E1 - API Trends & Topics for 2025
In this inaugural episode for Season 2 of the API Experience podcast, Mike and Matt discuss the API-related topics they feel will have the most significance in 2025. They cover the business value of APIs, the intersection of AI and APIs, new API standards, and many more topics.

Jul 22, 2024 • 1h 2min
S1 E15 - Season 1 Highlights
In this episode, Mike and Matt look back on and share clips from all the great API Experience Season 1 episodes.

Jul 3, 2024 • 41min
S1 E14 - New Frontiers In API Management
In this episode, Matt and Mike talk with Markus and Marilena Mueller of APIIDA about the new challenges organizations face in managing APIs, and the new techniques needed to meet those challenges.

May 29, 2024 • 38min
S1 E13 - API Security In The Age Of AI
In this episode, Matt and Mike talk with Sanjay Nagaraj, co-founder and CTO at Traceable.ai. Sanjay shares his experience in the API security domain, his background in AI, and insights on how those worlds come together.
Read more from Sanjay in InfoWorld: https://www.infoworld.com/article/3709450/the-state-of-api-security-in-2023.html

Apr 19, 2024 • 43min
S1 E12 - A Brief History Of Composability
In this episode, Mike and Matt jump headlong into the concept of composability, for both software architectures and digital business. They trace the roots of composability way back to the early days of computing, and show the common thread that runs through the more recent movements around Service Oriented Architecture, Domain Driven Design, API First, and Microservices. There are many resources mentioned in this episode:
Matt's Infoworld article on SOA and Microservices - https://www.infoworld.com/article/3080611/learning-from-soa-5-lessons-for-the-microservices-era.html
Gartner on Composable Business - https://www.gartner.com/smarterwithgartner/gartner-keynote-the-future-of-business-is-composable
David Parnas' paper introducing information hiding - https://www.win.tue.nl/~wstomv/edu/2ip30/references/criteria_for_modularization.pdf
Mel Conway's paper introducing Conway's Law - https://www.melconway.com/Home/pdf/committees.pdf
Djikstra on separation of concerns - https://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD04xx/EWD447.html
Alan Kay on message passing - https://wiki.c2.com/?AlanKayOnMessaging
Rechtin on Systems Architecting - https://sdincose.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/TheArtOfSystemsEngineering_inaugural.pdf
Dr. Carliss Baldwin's Design Rules - https://www.biblio.com/book/design-rules-vol-1-power-modularity/d/1573116839
Roy Fielding defining REST - https://ics.uci.edu/~fielding/pubs/dissertation/rest_arch_style.htm#sec_5_3_2
James Lewis & Martin Fowler defining Microservices - https://martinfowler.com/articles/microservices.html
Jonathan Murray on Composable Enterprise - https://adamalthus.com/blog/2013/04/04/the-composable-enterprise/

Mar 25, 2024 • 38min
S1 E11 - APIs Are Products, Finally!
In this episode, Matt and Mike talk with Audrey Kolski, API Product Management Consultant for The API Collective, about how to treat APIs as products. Audrey shares her experience working on high scale API products, and her opinions on the best way to productize APIs and get value from them.