海马星球 Seahorse Planet

本期节目是海德·戈特纳-阿本德罗斯访谈的上集中文配音版，海德的配音者是凝碧。 提到母权社会，很多人会立即联想到贫困、原始、无知而没有战斗力的古代落后部落。在父权学界有两种自相矛盾的看法，第一种截然否认人类社会存在过母权制，第二种认为母权制曾经存在过，很落后，注定被“更先进“的父权社会取代。 但如果你深谙男权历史的门道，真的深究下去，就会发现史书错漏百出、遮遮掩掩，回避了人类在“只知其母不知其父“的上万年新石器时代，发展出了农业、畜牧业、建筑业、城市规划、医学、天文学等丰富的历史。我们的史书也也回避解释所谓四大父权“文明”的崛起，为什么带来的是几千年反反复复陷入战争，文明被摧毁，进而复退，直到工业革命开始，女性借助时运摆脱了数千年被禁锢于家庭的免费奴役，争取到有薪工作和教育的机会，人类社会才开启了大幅度的科技和社会跃迁。 感谢现代母权制研究奠基人海德·戈特纳-阿本德罗斯，系统性地阐述了母权制的理念和模式。她和其他母权制研究者在全球的研究，发现这个被父权制社会扼杀数千年而不死的古老系统，依然在世界各大陆和岛屿上广泛地存在，并遵循着基本共性：母亲和女性为中心的家族和社群、以关爱和尊重多样性为核心的理念、以人性化的彼此赠与为目的的礼物经济、以两性尊重彼此分工互不干涉为性别秩序、以对自然和女性的尊崇敬仰为精神文化的基本。 实际上支撑着资本主义的运转的，不仅是金钱覆盖的领域，还有大量隐形的人类的彼此馈赠，从母亲对孩子的生命和养育馈赠开始。金钱不能产生孩子、不能替代普通人的日常彼此照料、不能购买人们彼此的真诚关照——从护士们与薪酬不匹配的极度辛劳，到街道上主动保护孩子们不要乱跑的成年人，到亚马逊丛林里保护生态的志愿者。事实上，没有女性的馈赠，即便是飞扬跋扈的父权系统也会瞬间瓦解。 2025年2月26日，海马星球采访了海德·戈特纳-阿本德罗斯，请她介绍了母权制的概念和历史，为什么这个领域的研究一直被系统性地打压，以及为什么母权制是人类未来最现实的出路。

The podcast delves into the troubling realities of surrogacy, unraveling its exploitation of women under both commercial and altruistic motives. It reveals chilling narratives from China, highlighting the commodification of childbirth as a form of modern slavery. The discussion sheds light on teenage pregnancy and the unique challenges faced by young mothers, while dissecting societal pressures that drive women to sell their bodies. Ultimately, it advocates for a reimagining of societal relationships to honor women's autonomy and dignity.

今天，受到良好教育的女性越来越多地意识到，生孩子的必要条件是给孩子提供安全良好的生活。 然而，即便是受过很好教育的女性，大多数都还不太意识到另一个必要条件，那就是女性需要充分知悉生育对女性可能造成的损伤，充分保护自己。 即便在貌似资讯发达的今日，生育损伤仍是一个深深被羞耻和禁忌挟裹的话题。它仿佛是极少数情况（但并不是），或者是不值一提的，甚至似乎女性遭遇生育损伤是因为她自己做错了什么。 然而，如果我们稍微做一些调研，就会发现，每一个生育的女性身上，都会存在生育损伤，女性的每一次生育，都会给她增加一些损伤。从线粒体、骨骼到大脑，女性的身体在怀孕和生育过程里，要遭遇无数挑战，越过无数她自己都不知道的险关。 而在父权社会不平等的性别秩序里，不仅女性被认为有生育的义务，而且婚姻往往意味着更年长的男性和年轻的女性结合。大多数女性需要用自己的子宫和整个身体，来承担衰老的精子带来的风险，而一旦生下来的孩子不够健康，母亲却是第一个被责怪的人。 这一期海马星球与大魔王一起，讨论了女性可能遭遇的生育损伤、这些损伤的起源、女性可以如何全面自主地看待自己的生育权、改写父权式生育的历史篇章。

当我们批判父权社会，很少有人去追究它最底层的基本规则设置。这些设置让黑暗人格与鱼得水，熟练使用这套规则，不仅会得到默许，甚至还被鼓励，更甚至会得到财富、名誉和地位的奖赏，所以即便是健康正常的人，也会不由自主地去适应和模仿黑暗人格的行为。但他们也会因此遭受持续创伤，即便他们自己可能毫无觉察。 本期海马星球请心理咨询师李双双一起，对比和分析了父权社会的特征与黑暗人格特质的重合之处，探讨了从私人关系到组织、社会之中的等级制、极度排外、导向原子化/孤立的操纵、暴力威慑等设置。这套设置从父权社会以暴力摧毁母权社会开始，迄今已经五六千年。然而，如果足够多的人充分学习和透视了这套设置，不再配合它的游戏，它就会无计可施、轰然崩塌。 在节目最后，我们分享了如何以“灰岩法则”、“黄岩法则”和“Don’t go DEEP”的策略，化解黑暗人格者对我们的操纵，而同样重要的，是节目开头介绍里提到的办法：寻找有同情心的同类、共建平等而安全的社群，互相保护照料。这恰恰是母权社会能维持万年和平的原因。 性别打结 by 艾伦•约翰逊 心理学家Ramani Durvasula 《文革遗伤心理研究》by 陆建华 https://health.wenwo.com/iw/aiwenArticle/554c450281df18c6274d05e3 Versuch über die modern Seele Chinas by Antje Haag 德中心理治疗研究院主席主席阿夫•葛拉赫（Alf Gerlach）

Dark personalities are everywhere, influencing our lives more than we realize. From narcissism to psychopathy, understanding these traits helps us recognize toxic behaviors. The discussion delves into the emotional manipulation and aggression often linked to these personalities, shedding light on the psychological effects on victims. Insights into familial dynamics reveal deeper societal impacts. By unmasking these traits, we can better protect ourselves and foster healthier connections, ultimately challenging harmful societal frameworks.

Haydeh Gotner-Abendroth, an 84-year-old researcher on matriarchal societies, shares her profound insights on the historical significance of matriarchy. She argues that matriarchy, rooted in women’s lineage, established resilient social structures thousands of years ago. Contrasting this with the patriarchal systems that evolved from violence and control, Haydeh emphasizes the enduring nature of matriarchal principles. She details her rigorous research methods and advocates for a revival of matriarchal concepts today, stressing their relevance for future societal structures.

The discussion explores the often-misunderstood concept of matriarchy, revealing its historical roots and societal impact. It contrasts matriarchal values of community, care, and equality with patriarchal competition and hierarchy. Insights on maternal kinship highlight the importance of mothers in social structures and economic systems, particularly through the lens of gift economies. The podcast emphasizes the enduring presence of matriarchal systems worldwide and suggests they may hold solutions for modern societal challenges.

A young woman courageously shares her harrowing experience of confronting harassment during a job search. Despite fear and vulnerability, she gathers evidence and turns her anger into action, overcoming societal challenges along the way. The support from other women, including friends and law enforcement, plays a crucial role in her journey toward justice. Themes of resilience, empowerment, and community highlight the significance of standing up against harassment and the transformative power of solidarity among women.

The podcast dives into the impact of heterosexual dominance on women's lives, especially within LGBTQ+ communities. It humorously reflects on childhood attractions and the journey toward self-acceptance in a patriarchal society. Topics like transforming toxic masculinity to embrace feminism are explored, alongside the dynamics of intimacy and communication. The importance of creating supportive spaces for female connections, navigating privacy and consent in the digital age, and fostering confidence and visibility in the LGBTQ+ identity are also key highlights.

Dive into the clash between feminism and psychology, revealing the patriarchy's grip on counseling practices. Discover how women often face double jeopardy when seeking help, and the critical need for validating feminist perspectives. Unpack the challenges of emotional journeys in therapy, the dangers of traditional labeling, and power dynamics that affect women in therapeutic spaces. Celebrate the transformative potential of women's communities, self-compassion, and the reclamation of agency in mental health. It's all about empowering women's voices in the therapeutic world.