
Latter Day Struggles
The Latter Day Struggles Podcast addresses beliefs and issues within the LDS faith that are challenging to talk about but vital to discuss for those trying to navigate their relationship in or around the church. Valerie and her guests invite psychological maturity, theological health, and institutional integrity.
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Jul 15, 2024 • 40min
243: Why a Call for Loyalty is a Red Flag
Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: A Study of Loyalty [Part I of II]In this episode Valerie and Nathan delve into the delicate relationship between love, loyalty, and integrity. They discuss how loyalty, when prioritized over love, can lead to moral conflicts, confusion and systemic issues. The conversation centers around recognizing loyalty as a near enemy to love, particularly within political, religious, and social contexts. With their usual compassion and candor, Valerie and Nathan advocate for genuine love over superficial loyalty. Tune in to explore how loyalty can overshadow true virtues and how embracing love as the true virtue can foster healthy connection and growth.Friday’s powerful advanced content exclusive episode will delve deeper into how unquestioned loyalty is both damaging and dangerous, particularly within a religious system. Valerie and Nathan examine the proper place that loyalty should hold within relationships, and how Christlike love, compassion and one’s own integrity should always come first. Don’t miss this compelling and thought provoking episode of Latter Day Struggles!https://valeriehamaker.com/one-one-consultations/Support the showWant to support Valerie & Nathan?Share this episode Become a Monday & Friday Listener: Limited-time Sale on Annual Subscription $69: app.helloaudio.fm/feed/455929cb-0267-4c17-aa18-9469c4003feb/signup Monthly Subscription: $9.99. app.helloaudio.fm/feed/45de445a-7109-4ad4-a670-231a20dc02d9/signup Make a donation: Venmo or Patreon Join a group: https://valeriehamaker.com/support-groups/ Visit our website: https://valeriehamaker.com/

Jul 12, 2024 • 1h 23min
🔒 242: LDS Theology that Contributes to a Universal Zion with Fiona Givens
Subscriber-only episodeSend us a Positive Review!Series Title: Atonement & the American Criminal Justice System [Part IV of IV]In this capstone episode concluding their groundbreaking four-part series treating the intersection of atonement theology, trauma healing, and the penal justice system, Valerie and Fiona Givens dive into some beautiful and unique contributions that can be found in LDS theology. They highlight some obscure but profound ideas hidden within Mormon doctrine that uncovers a God who loves infinitely, has compassion for the wounds that impact us throughout life, and who ultimately welcomes us all home. Please join Valerie and Fiona as they uncover some beautiful LDS gems hidden in plain sight that add to the larger Christian and spiritual conversation helping us find peace, healing, and spiritual transformation. https://valeriehamaker.com/one-one-consultations/Want to support Valerie & Nathan?Share this episode Become a Monday & Friday Listener: Limited-time Sale on Annual Subscription $69: app.helloaudio.fm/feed/455929cb-0267-4c17-aa18-9469c4003feb/signup Monthly Subscription: $9.99. app.helloaudio.fm/feed/45de445a-7109-4ad4-a670-231a20dc02d9/signup Make a donation: Venmo or Patreon Join a group: https://valeriehamaker.com/support-groups/ Visit our website: https://valeriehamaker.com/

Jul 8, 2024 • 1h 17min
241: How Neuroscience Validates the Need for U.S. Prison Reform with Fiona Givens
Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: Atonement & the American Criminal Justice System [Part III of IV]Welcome to this episode where Valerie and special guest Fiona Givens dive deep into each of their favorite topics: neuroscience & trauma (looking at you Valerie!) & healthy atonement theology (now looking at you Fiona!). A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the impact of trauma on individuals, especially those within the criminal justice system. Fiona brings insights from scholars and trauma experts, emphasizing that what is often perceived as deviant behavior is deeply rooted in trauma and human woundedness. Fiona and Valerie advocate for a theological vision committed to healing and redemption, affirming that a compassionate approach can lead to true transformation and restoration. This one is a must-listen and quite possibly will have you pondering things you haven't ever connected before!https://valeriehamaker.com/one-one-consultations/Support the showWant to support Valerie & Nathan?Share this episode Become a Monday & Friday Listener: Limited-time Sale on Annual Subscription $69: app.helloaudio.fm/feed/455929cb-0267-4c17-aa18-9469c4003feb/signup Monthly Subscription: $9.99. app.helloaudio.fm/feed/45de445a-7109-4ad4-a670-231a20dc02d9/signup Make a donation: Venmo or Patreon Join a group: https://valeriehamaker.com/support-groups/ Visit our website: https://valeriehamaker.com/

Jul 5, 2024 • 1h 16min
🔒 240: How the Theology of Hell Created the American Prison System with Fiona Givens
Subscriber-only episodeSend us a Positive Review!Series Title: Atonement & the American Criminal Justice System [Part II of IV]In this enlightening episode Valerie and Fiona Givens delve deep into the historical and theological underpinnings of atonement theology and its profound impact on the American penal justice system. Fiona provides a rich historical context, explaining the shift from early Christian views that emphasized Christ's life, incarnation, and resurrection to the later Western focus on crucifixion and suffering, which laid the groundwork for a theology of substitution and punishment. They critically examine how these beliefs manifest in punitive practices, advocate for a shift towards a more rehabilitative approach, and set the stage for further discussion in the next episode on the need to reconcile atonement theology and treatment of criminals with contemporary understandings of neuroscience and trauma. https://valeriehamaker.com/one-one-consultations/Want to support Valerie & Nathan?Share this episode Become a Monday & Friday Listener: Limited-time Sale on Annual Subscription $69: app.helloaudio.fm/feed/455929cb-0267-4c17-aa18-9469c4003feb/signup Monthly Subscription: $9.99. app.helloaudio.fm/feed/45de445a-7109-4ad4-a670-231a20dc02d9/signup Make a donation: Venmo or Patreon Join a group: https://valeriehamaker.com/support-groups/ Visit our website: https://valeriehamaker.com/

Jul 1, 2024 • 1h 1min
239: How Christians Became Sinners with Fiona Givens
Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: Atonement & the American Criminal Justice System [Part I of IV]Welcome to a podcast series that has been months in the making and one that you will NOT want to miss if you desire to find health and healing in your relationship with God, atonement, hope, and healing. In this four part series, Valerie welcomes return guest and gifted LDS theologian Fiona Givens. Together they delve deeply into the development of various atonement theologies and their impact on both the average Christian "sinner" as well as the "criminal", especially and how each "deserves" to be punished. This series explores roots of atonement theology; how, why, where, and when it changed, and how the atonement theology that came to North America eventually impacted the criminal justice system. They further explore how modern neuroscience has become an unexpected partner in revealing the infinite goodness and inevitable woundedness of all human kind and how our understanding the nature of the brain can bring about lasting reform of our atonement theology and our criminal justice system. Don't miss this entire series packed with cutting edge scholarship and a windfall of hope and healing on our ongoing reimagining of God's infinite love for all of their children. https://valeriehamaker.com/one-one-consultations/Support the showWant to support Valerie & Nathan?Share this episode Become a Monday & Friday Listener: Limited-time Sale on Annual Subscription $69: app.helloaudio.fm/feed/455929cb-0267-4c17-aa18-9469c4003feb/signup Monthly Subscription: $9.99. app.helloaudio.fm/feed/45de445a-7109-4ad4-a670-231a20dc02d9/signup Make a donation: Venmo or Patreon Join a group: https://valeriehamaker.com/support-groups/ Visit our website: https://valeriehamaker.com/

Jun 28, 2024 • 45min
🔒 238: Confronting & Healing Near Enemies within the LDS Church
Subscriber-only episodeSend us a Positive Review!Series Title: Exposing the Near Enemy [Part IV of IV]In this thought-provoking final episode of this series, Valerie explores the complex historical and cultural factors that contribute to the prevalence of unique near enemy behaviors within the LDS Church. She discusses how the church's trauma history, including persecution and isolation, has fostered a culture of extreme self-protection and difficulty with self-confrontation. Valerie also examines unresolved shadow characteristics related to gender, sexuality, and power, drawing connections to the church's struggle with reform and accountability. With her usual candor and affection for her home institution, Valerie offers her feelings that true virtue requires a courageous commitment to ongoing self-reflection and growth, both personally and within the church community. The episode, series, and entire podcast highlights the transformative potential that humility, love, and accountability have in fostering authenticity and spiritual development within individuals and spiritual institutions. https://valeriehamaker.com/one-one-consultations/Want to support Valerie & Nathan?Share this episode Become a Monday & Friday Listener: Limited-time Sale on Annual Subscription $69: app.helloaudio.fm/feed/455929cb-0267-4c17-aa18-9469c4003feb/signup Monthly Subscription: $9.99. app.helloaudio.fm/feed/45de445a-7109-4ad4-a670-231a20dc02d9/signup Make a donation: Venmo or Patreon Join a group: https://valeriehamaker.com/support-groups/ Visit our website: https://valeriehamaker.com/

Jun 24, 2024 • 49min
237: Near Enemy Behaviors that Creep into Missionary Work & Marriage
Send us a Positive Review!Series Title: Exposing the Near Enemy [Part III of IV]In this episode Val and Nathan continue their deep dive into applications of the Buddhist concept of the near enemy, shining a light on how this concept might apply to how the LDS and surrounding community might grow in light and truth as these ideas are understood and embraced. They focus on how behaviors like self-aggrandizing, pity, and clinging subtly undermine virtues such as charity, compassion, and love, often posing as their close allies. They analyze how these near enemies negatively impact missionary work, intimate relationships, and spiritual growth within the Latter-Day Saints community, particularly highlighting how spiritual exceptionalism and codependency in eternal marriage theology can hurt connection at the micro and the macro levels. The episode culminates in a reflective call for embracing both light and shadow selves and emphasizes acting from a place of genuine love and virtue rather than fear or the desire for validation. Thank you for joining us in this series intended to expand our capacities to grow whole and healthy in and around the LDS church.https://valeriehamaker.com/one-one-consultations/Support the showWant to support Valerie & Nathan?Share this episode Become a Monday & Friday Listener: Limited-time Sale on Annual Subscription $69: app.helloaudio.fm/feed/455929cb-0267-4c17-aa18-9469c4003feb/signup Monthly Subscription: $9.99. app.helloaudio.fm/feed/45de445a-7109-4ad4-a670-231a20dc02d9/signup Make a donation: Venmo or Patreon Join a group: https://valeriehamaker.com/support-groups/ Visit our website: https://valeriehamaker.com/

Jun 21, 2024 • 1h 13min
🔒 236: Near Enemy Behaviors that Creep into Spiritual Belief, Practice & Gender Equality
Subscriber-only episodeSend us a Positive Review!Series Title: Exposing the Near Enemy [Part II of IV]In this episode Val and Nathan explore several topics relevant to the LDS faith journey through the lens of the "near enemy". Their focus in this advanced-content episode includes an analysis of: **Faithfulness as the near-enemy of personal integrity **Checklist obedience as the near-enemy of personal transformation **Leadership by seniority/nomination/inheritance as the near-enemy of leadership by attraction **Placating as the near-enemy of true reform (specific to current queer issues) **Pedestalizing as the near-enemy of gender equality This (and every) series endeavors to help faith-expanding Latter-day Saints better understand ourselves and our faith institution so that we all might connect, heal, and transform. Thank you for subscribing to these advanced content exclusives, intended to help our faith expanding LDS and surrounding community grow and thrive in their faith journeys. https://valeriehamaker.com/one-one-consultations/Want to support Valerie & Nathan?Share this episode Become a Monday & Friday Listener: Limited-time Sale on Annual Subscription $69: app.helloaudio.fm/feed/455929cb-0267-4c17-aa18-9469c4003feb/signup Monthly Subscription: $9.99. app.helloaudio.fm/feed/45de445a-7109-4ad4-a670-231a20dc02d9/signup Make a donation: Venmo or Patreon Join a group: https://valeriehamaker.com/support-groups/ Visit our website: https://valeriehamaker.com/

Jun 17, 2024 • 34min
235: What is a "Near Enemy" & Why Exposing Near Enemies Matter
Send us a Positive Review! Series Title: Exposing the Near Enemy [Part I of IV]In this opening episode of this new series Valerie and Nathan delve into the profound concept of the "Near Enemy," highlighting how certain behaviors that superficially resemble virtues actually hinder personal growth and damage interpersonal relationships. Drawing from Buddhist wisdom and Brené Brown's integrative work, they discuss how the near enemy behaviors can creep into all individual and systemic relationships and how these behaviors prevent genuine connection.Episode 2 of this series will be a Latter Day Struggles EXCLUSIVE: tackling sensitive and idiosyncratic "near enemy" topics within the LDS faith tradition. Episode 3 will tackle less sensitive "near enemy" topics found within the faith and typical of many faith traditions and other community settings. Episode 4 of this series will be another EXCLUSIVE, exploring from a psychological lens some possible reasons why our LDS faith tradition uniquely struggles with its idiosyncratic "near enemy" behaviors. This series is groundbreaking in that it integrates an element of sound Buddhist philosophy in an effect to help our LDS community understand some of our tradition's most significant shadow parts. We hope that this series brings light, understanding, healing, and eventual reform. We care about the wellness of our faith tradition and those over whom it has influence. https://valeriehamaker.com/one-one-consultations/Support the showWant to support Valerie & Nathan?Share this episode Become a Monday & Friday Listener: Limited-time Sale on Annual Subscription $69: app.helloaudio.fm/feed/455929cb-0267-4c17-aa18-9469c4003feb/signup Monthly Subscription: $9.99. app.helloaudio.fm/feed/45de445a-7109-4ad4-a670-231a20dc02d9/signup Make a donation: Venmo or Patreon Join a group: https://valeriehamaker.com/support-groups/ Visit our website: https://valeriehamaker.com/

Jun 14, 2024 • 49min
🔒 234: Healing a Culture of Transaction, Competition & Perfectionism in Missionary Service
Subscriber-only episodeSend us a Positive Review!Series Title: Healing from Spiritual Scrupulosity [Part IV of IV]In this final episode in their series tackling the topic of OCD spiritual scrupulosity within the context of the LDS faith, Valerie and Brannon Patrick reflect on their own experiences as missionaries to offer a respectful critique of a culture that of vulnerable to struggles with mental health in general and spiritual scrupulosity in specific. Their conversation addresses the critical issue of psychological distress among missionaries, exacerbated by a culture of perfectionism, performance, and a focus on missionary success connected to personal obedience. Through personal stories and insights on their own faith journeys, they advocate for a healthier, more balanced approach to spiritual beliefs and the missionary experience, aiming to help individuals both on missions and beyond reclaim their sense of self-worth and belovedness.https://valeriehamaker.com/one-one-consultations/Want to support Valerie & Nathan?Share this episode Become a Monday & Friday Listener: Limited-time Sale on Annual Subscription $69: app.helloaudio.fm/feed/455929cb-0267-4c17-aa18-9469c4003feb/signup Monthly Subscription: $9.99. app.helloaudio.fm/feed/45de445a-7109-4ad4-a670-231a20dc02d9/signup Make a donation: Venmo or Patreon Join a group: https://valeriehamaker.com/support-groups/ Visit our website: https://valeriehamaker.com/
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