The Built Different Podcast with Dr. Zach Clinton

In this special backstage episode of The Built Different Podcast, recorded at the AACC 2025 United World Conference, Dr. Zach Clinton sits down with a dear friend, Lysa TerKeurst — bestselling author, speaker, and Founder & President of Proverbs 31 Ministries. With over 7,000 Christian counselors, coaches, clinicians, pastors, and ministry leaders gathered in Nashville from around the world, this year’s conference has been a powerful time of worship, equipping, and encouragement. In this deeply personal conversation, Lysa opens up about one of the most difficult chapters of her life: walking through an unwanted divorce. As her newest book, Surviving an Unwanted Divorce, prepares to release on November 11th, Lysa shares with honesty and biblical clarity how God met her in the middle of heartbreak. Together, Dr. Zach and Lysa talk through: the journey of trusting God in seasons you never expected, what it looked like for Lysa to lead Proverbs 31 Ministries while navigating private pain, how Scripture speaks to and protects women in the context of divorce, common phrases that can unintentionally hurt, and how to truly support someone walking through divorce, God’s heart for those in unwanted divorce, and the hope available for the next step forward. This conversation is both biblically rich and emotionally honest, offering practical guidance, spiritual truth, and hope for anyone walking through — or walking with someone through — the pain of unwanted divorce.   Websites: Visit Lysa’s Website: https://lysaterkeurst.com/  Pre-Order Lysa’s New Book, Surviving an Unwanted Divorce: https://www.p31bookstore.com/collections/lysa-terkeurst-books-and-bible-studies/products/surviving-an-unwanted-divorce  Proverbs 31 Ministries: https://proverbs31.org/  Other Books by Lysa TerKeurst: https://www.p31bookstore.com/collections/lysa-terkeurst-books-and-bible-studies  Receive Christ-Centered Care through Christian Care Connect: https://christiancareconnect.com/   Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

In this backstage episode of the Built Different Podcast, recorded live from the Refuel Conference at Thomas Road Baptist Church, Dr. Zach Clinton and Joshua Broome sit down with Pastor Clayton King — a leader, evangelist, author, and founder with a unique voice for this generation. Refuel is a gathering designed to reignite the hearts of leaders, calling the Church to unity, holiness, and mission. Clayton brings a powerful, clear, Christ-centered message, drawing from his deep experience in ministry and his passion for evangelism. Throughout this conversation, Clayton unpacks why gatherings like Refuel matter more than ever, how to be confident, clear, Christ-centered, and concise in sharing the Gospel, and the spiritual hunger he’s seeing across younger generations. He tackles cultural confusion head-on — the battle for truth in a postmodern world — and offers a hopeful vision for discipleship, mentorship, and activation in the Church. Clayton also shares parts of his personal story, including his experience with adoption, and how it shapes the way he communicates the Father heart of God to those longing for identity and belonging. His insights challenge leaders to move from absorption to activation, equipping others to live out their faith with courage and clarity. This is a conversation that will encourage pastors, inspire leaders, and ignite hearts for the mission of God.   Websites:  Visit Clayton’s Website: https://www.claytonking.com/  Visit NewSpring Church: https://newspring.cc/about  Visit Crossroads Camps & Conferences: https://www.crossroadscamp.com/  Receive Christ-Centered Care through Christian Care Connect: https://christiancareconnect.com/  Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

In this special backstage episode of the Built Different Podcast, Dr. Zach and his dad, Dr. Tim, sit down with renowned worship leader and songwriter Chris Tomlin at the Giant Center in Hershey, PA leading up to the sold-out EWomen Mercy & Grace Tour stop, where over 8,000 women gathered to worship God together in a powerful night of praise. TIME Magazine has called Chris “the most often sung artist in the world,” and for good reason. With songs like “How Great Is Our God,” “Good Good Father,” and “Holy Forever,” Chris’s music has been the soundtrack of worship for believers around the globe. But beyond the music, Chris shares a timely reminder that “The King is still the King” no matter what we face. In this conversation, Chris opens up about his journey and calling, the heart behind his new album, and what it means to worship in a fractured culture. He talks about the spiritual hunger he’s seeing across the Church, how worship can be used as a weapon against fear and discouragement, and how God has personally met him in seasons of uncertainty. You’ll hear about his passion for Scripture-infused songs like “How Good It Is,” his role in The Last Supper film, and his hope for those who will join him on his upcoming Fall Tour, that launched September 17th and spans across 20 U.S. cities. This episode is a reminder that worship isn’t just a song…it’s a declaration of truth. The King is still good. The King is still faithful. The King is still on the throne.   Mentioned in this episode: Visit Chris’s Website: https://christomlin.com/ Listen to Chris’s New Album, The King is Still the King: https://christomlin.com/pages/music Check Out Chris’s Fall Tour Dates: https://christomlin.com/pages/tour Join us at EWomen: https://ewomen.net/ Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Today on the Built Different Podcast, we’re joined by Pastor Ed Newton, Lead Pastor of Community Bible Church in San Antonio, Texas, and author of the new book Why Not You?. Ed’s story is one of prophetic calling, personal struggle, and God’s relentless pursuit. From a prophetic word at a young age to leading a multi-ethnic, multi-generational church reaching tens of thousands each week, Ed’s journey is marked by God’s hand. In this episode, Ed joins Dr. Zach and Joshua Broome backstage at the Refuel Conference hosted at Thomas Road Baptist Church to talk about the significance of spiritual gatherings like Refuel, the power of emptying ourselves so God can fill us (2 Kings 4), and what it means to walk boldly in our irrevocable calling (Romans 11:29). Ed vulnerably shares about battling imposter syndrome, moments of deep personal pain, and how setbacks have become setups for God’s greater purposes. This conversation is both deeply personal and powerfully practical, equipping listeners to confront lies, embrace their identity in Christ, and step confidently into their purpose.   Pick Up a Copy of Ed’s New Book, Why Not You?: https://www.whynotyoubook.com/  Visit Ed’s Website: https://ednewton.com/  Visit Community Bible Church’s Website: https://www.communitybible.com/  Follow Pastor Ed on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/pastorednewton/  Attend Refuel 2026: https://refuel.org/  Get Clinically Excellent, Christ-Centered Care Today: https://christiancareconnect.com/  Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

On this episode of the Built Different Podcast, we’re joined by Josh Rutledge, Vice President of Spiritual Development at Liberty University. Josh is passionate about equipping the next generation to live out authentic faith in a culture that constantly challenges it. From his leadership on campus to his preaching in Convocation and Campus Community, Josh has a unique vantage point into what God is doing in the lives of young adults today. In our conversation, Josh reflects on the sobering cultural moment we’re living in and how tragic events have stirred both grief and a renewed hunger for truth among students. He shares powerful insights on the revival and spiritual awakening taking place across college campuses, highlighting the ways students are pressing in with a genuine desire to follow Jesus. We also talk about the dangers that threaten faith formation in young adults, the importance of discipleship as a “long obedience in the same direction,” and why spiritual formation requires not just learning about Jesus but also living like Him. Josh unpacks the heart behind Liberty’s “Built Different” sermon series, emphasizing holy habits, community, mentorship, and perseverance as essential to cultivating a resilient faith. Throughout the episode, Josh reminds us that while the challenges of our culture are real, God is at work in extraordinary ways, raising up a generation committed to truth, righteousness, and the gospel. His prayer, and ours, is that students would not only encounter Christ but also embrace a life of deep, lasting formation in Him.   🔗 Next Steps & Resources Learn more about Josh Rutledge and the Office of Spiritual Development at Liberty University: https://www.liberty.edu/osd/ Watch Liberty University Convocation (live and archived): https://www.liberty.edu/osd/lu-stages/convocation/ Join Campus Community online: https://www.liberty.edu/osd/lu-stages/campus-community/ Follow Liberty Spiritual Development on Instagram for updates and encouragement: https://www.instagram.com/libertyosd/ Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

In this heartfelt conversation, Dr. Zach sits down with worship leader, recording artist, and teaching pastor, Charles Billingsley, to explore the topics of leadership, calling, and the power of a quiet life. In this power packed conversation, Dr. Zach and Charles begin by reflecting on the upcoming Refuel Conference: a free, two-day conference at Thomas Road Baptist Church (Oct 6–7) designed to encourage and equip pastors, staff, ministry leaders, and you. Charles speaks candidly about burnout in ministry and why intentional moments of worship, rest, and learning matter now more than ever. He traces his story from a childhood on the road with his evangelist dad, to early mentors who invested in his calling, to seasons with NewSong, and years serving local churches from coast to coast. Charles explains how he reconciled platform and humility, seeing every song as a “four-minute sermon”, and why he chooses intimacy over immediacy, margin over hurry, and faithfulness over flash. Additionally, in this conversation, they unpack three disciplines for ministry: solitude (creating margin for God and people), study (Charles writes messages nearly word-for-word, then leaves room for the Spirit), and suffering (his harrowing COVID valley which included pneumonia, low oxygen, blood clots and how those moments became a school of worship where songs like “Great Are You Lord” and “Goodness of God” anchored his trust). The result is a raw, hope-filled invitation to abide in Christ, on the mountaintops and in the valleys, and to lead from overflow, not emptiness.   Calls to Action Register for Refuel (Oct 6–7): Save your spot at www.refuel.org and bring your team. It’s free and open to everyone! Learn about Thomas Road Baptist Church: Plan a visit, watch messages, or get involved with ministries at Thomas Road Baptist Church (Lynchburg, VA) by visiting https://trbc.org/  Follow Charles Billingsley: Keep up with new music, messages, and events on his social channels - https://www.instagram.com/charlesbillingsley/  Visit Charles’s Website: https://www.charlesbillingsley.com/  Listen to The Charles Billingsley Podcast: Add it to your queue and share an episode with a friend in ministry - https://www.charlesbillingsley.com/podcast  Share This Episode: Text it to a pastor, spouse, or team member who needs encouragement and refueling. Subscribe to Built Different: Follow, rate, and review the show to help more listeners find these conversations. Practice the Three S’s This Week: Schedule a solitude block, study one passage deeply, and worship in whatever “valley” you’re walking through. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

In this powerful conversation with Pastor Jonathan Falwell, we unpacked what it means to lead with integrity, stay grounded in faith, and navigate the pressures of ministry in a world filled with uncertainty. From cultural challenges like rising fear, tragedy, and moral compromise to the immense personal weight pastors carry, Pastor Jonathan reminded us that these days call for courageous, Spirit-filled leadership. He shared how Scripture, prayer, and community keep us rooted when criticism, burnout, or even spiritual attack threaten to derail our calling. Together, we explored how to finish well, not chasing applause or platform but living faithfully and leaving a legacy that truly matters. Pastor Jonathan also addressed the reality of spiritual warfare, the temptation of compromise, and the importance of daily renewal in Christ to stand firm amid cultural chaos. His words were both a sobering reminder of the times we live in and an encouraging call to lead with courage, conviction, and compassion.If you’re in need of some encouragement and a filled cup with some fresh wind in your sails, don’t miss the Refuel Conference at Thomas Road Baptist Church on October 6–7. It’s completely FREE and designed to refresh, equip, and encourage you for the road ahead. Register today at Refuel.org (https://refuel.org/) and come ready to be renewed, inspired, and reminded why your “yes” to ministry matters.Register for Refuel: www.refuel.orgFind out more about Thomas Road Baptist Church: https://trbc.org/Follow Thomas Road on Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/thomasroad?igsh=N2wzc2JxNnAweXB6 Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Pastor and bestselling author Max Lucado joins the Built Different Podcast to talk about his newest book, Tame Your Thoughts: Three Tools to Renew Your Mind and Transform Your Life, which released August 12th and is now available wherever books are sold. We discuss what it means to take every thought captive (2 Corinthians 10:5), renew our minds (Romans 12:2), and dwell on what is true (Philippians 4:8). Max shares how Scripture can become a filter for truth, helping us identify and replace the lies of our thoughts and emotions with God’s promises. Trust me, this is a conversation you don’t want to miss.    Resources & Links: 📖 Get the book: https://shorturl.at/alSIh  🌐 Learn more about Max Lucado: https://maxlucado.com/  📱 Follow Max Lucado on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MaxLucadoOfficial  🎙 Subscribe to the Built Different Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-built-different-podcast-with-dr-zach-clinton/id1558251199  Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

As Dr. Zach was unable to make the trip to LA due to a family member’s passing, his dear friend and frequent cohost Joshua Broome sat down with marriage coaches George and Tondra Gregory in Los Angeles to discuss their new book The Marriage Game Plan: Developing a Winning Strategy for Marital Success. In this conversation, they unpack how to live on mission together as a couple, model the gospel through your relationship, and build a strategy for marriage that thrives in every season. Whether you’re single, newlyweds, or celebrating decades together, this conversation offers biblical wisdom and practical tools to help you better understand God’s design for love, marriage, relationship, and intimacy for you and for those you love.   Resources & Links: 📖 Get the book: https://www.amazon.com/Marriage-Game-Plan-Developing-Strategy/dp/0830786740  🌐 Learn more about George & Tondra: https://journeyforlifenow.org/about/  📱 Follow George on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georgeagregory/  📱 Follow Tondra on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tondragregory/  🎙 Subscribe to the Built Different Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-built-different-podcast-with-dr-zach-clinton/id1558251199  Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.

Earn It: Building Champions for Christ Through Winning in the Dark with Liberty University Head Football Coach, Jamey Chadwell What does it take to truly shine under the bright lights? In this week’s episode of the Built Different Podcast, Dr. Zach sits down with Liberty University Head Football Coach, Jamey Chadwell, for an authentic conversation on faith, leadership, pressure, and the hidden work that leads to greatness. Coach Chadwell opens up about his journey, from early struggles and setbacks to leading Liberty to national recognition by sharing the lessons he’s learned about consistency, culture, and camaraderie. Throughout this conversation you’ll learn about the power of connection, how to earn what you expect, the importance of standards and culture, understanding that winning isn’t just a goal but its a byproduct, how to choose resilience over recognition, prioritizing the things that matter most, the need for mentors in our lives, what coaches are looking for beyond talent, and what it really means to be a champion for Christ. Whether you’re an athlete, leader, or simply someone trying to maximize your God-given potential, this episode will encourage and challenge you to keep working in the dark so you’re ready when the lights come on.   Resources & Next Steps 🏈 Follow Liberty Football for updates, schedules, and highlights: https://www.instagram.com/libertyfootball/  🔥 Stay connected with Coach Jamey Chadwell and the team’s journey: https://libertyflames.com/sports/football/  🎟 Check out upcoming games and grab tickets: https://libertyflames.com/sports/2023/6/7/football-ticket-information  🙌 Pray for and support the players as they pursue excellence on and off the field. 🎧 Keep listening to the Built Different Podcast for more behind-the-scenes conversations with leaders shaping lives through faith, sports, and resilience. Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.