
The Kicker
The Kicker is a podcast on the media and the world today. It comes out twice a month, hosted by Josh Hersh and produced by Amanda Darrach for the Columbia Journalism Review. It is available wherever you get your podcasts, including Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
Latest episodes

Oct 25, 2019 • 24min
Jon Allsop on Ukraine, Brexit, and the danger of dumbing down
Jon Allsop, who writes CJR’s daily newsletter “The Media Today” from his flat in London, talks to Kyle Pope, editor and publisher of CJR, about Boris Johnson’s obsession with the American presidency, Trump’s impeachment strategy, and how the instinct to oversimplify stories like Ukraine and Brexit opens the door to misinformation.

Oct 18, 2019 • 26min
Rule of fear—Carlotta Gall reports on the war behind the wall
Carlotta Gall, Istanbul bureau chief for the New York Times, spent her summer reporting on whether Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Turkey’s president, would invade Syria. This week, Kyle Pope, editor and publisher of CJR, talks to Gall about how she and her colleagues have covered Turkey and Syria as the conflict has unfolded. The Turks bombed a convoy with journalists in northern Syria; ISIS fighters are escaping and threaten to regroup; new Syrian checkpoints arrest American journalists; and the PKK offers only propaganda and a cult of personality. Gall, one of the most experienced war correspondents working today, explains what likely comes next.

Oct 11, 2019 • 17min
‘The more American your life is, the more vulnerable you become’
When longtime residents of Washington State’s Long Beach Peninsula began to disappear, journalist McKenzie Funk set out to reverse-engineer ICE officers’ use of domestic-surveillance data. Last week, he published his findings in the New York Times Magazine. Kyle Pope, the editor and publisher of CJR, speaks with Funk to learn why the more American an immigrant’s life is, the more vulnerable they become, and why ICE blames that vulnerability on sanctuary policy.

Oct 4, 2019 • 27min
Impeachment and how Trump exposed the flaws in journalism
Joe Lockhart was named White House press secretary in 1998, three days before the House voted to impeach President Clinton. This week, Lockhart speaks with Kyle Pope, the editor and publisher of CJR, about the argument to end live coverage of the White House, and why he thinks this is the golden age of journalism.

Sep 26, 2019 • 15min
The Financial Times follows the money on the climate crisis
Among readers, the demand for climate crisis coverage is high. Until recently, however, financial reporters have stayed largely silent on the subject. On this week’s episode, Kyle Pope, the editor and publisher of CJR, speaks with Gillian Tett, editor-at-large for the Financial Times, on how her doctoral work in cultural anthropology and her years as a war reporter have lead her to start a newsletter on the climate crisis, “Moral Money.”

Sep 20, 2019 • 20min
Climate collaboration—three hundred outlets, one billion viewers
There is a climate angle to every beat, no matter how small the newsroom; collaboration pays; and climate coverage is no more political than failure to cover the climate crisis. On this week’s episode, Kyle Pope, editor and publisher of CJR, speaks with Mark Hertsgaard, the environmental correspondent for The Nation, on what they’ve learned so far from their Covering Climate Now initiative with The Guardian.

Sep 13, 2019 • 19min
One hyperlocal reporter and 400,000 NYCHA residents
Public housing is one of the most undercovered stories in New York. But every day, Monica Morales of PIX11 News answers calls from residents of city-owned buildings and fixes their problems. Kyle Pope, the editor and publisher of CJR, speaks with Morales and Emma Whitford, who profiled her this week. They discuss the difference a dedicated reporter makes and how her beat bridges the divide between city officials and the public housing system’s 400,000 residents.

Sep 5, 2019 • 20min
Bahamian media and the fight for Hurricane relief
Two days before Hurricane Dorian hit, Eugene Duffy, the managing editor of The Tribune in Nassau, sent a reporter and a photographer to Marsh Harbour in the Abacos. As the town endured the largest storm on modern record, Duffy lost touch with his team. On this week’s episode, CJR Editor and Publisher Kyle Pope hears how social media has changed coverage of natural disasters and how vital local headlines can be in driving sustained relief efforts from NGOs and wealthier countries.

Aug 22, 2019 • 17min
After Reuters—Myanmar’s other reporters
Swe Win, the editor of Myanmar Now, a bilingual investigative-news website, was sued for defamation in Mandalay two years ago. His crime? Posting on Facebook about his site’s coverage of an extremist monk’s support of an assasination. This week, Kyle Pope, CJR’s editor and publisher, and E. Tammy Kim, a freelance reporter and essayist, discuss the effect of the high-profile imprisonment of Reuters journalists Wa Lone and Kyaw Soe Oo on cases like Swe Win’s.

Aug 15, 2019 • 29min
Jeffrey Epstein on background
“Slippery,” but “charming.” “Magnetic,” but “useless.” And “utterly unapologetic.” Convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein invited New York Times columnist James Stewart to his Manhattan home last August. Following Epstein’s apparent suicide last week, as he awaited trial for sex trafficking and conspiracy to traffic minors for sex, Stewart and the Times made the decision to publish details of their interview, though Epstein spoke with Stewart on background. Here CJR Editor and Publisher Kyle Pope and Stewart discuss the ethical questions behind that decision, and the moral imperative to publish facts quickly.