

The Kicker
Columbia Journalism Review
The Kicker is a podcast on the media and the world today. It comes out twice a month, hosted by Josh Hersh and produced by Amanda Darrach for the Columbia Journalism Review. It is available wherever you get your podcasts, including Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
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Apr 11, 2025 • 25min
Kai Ryssdal Was America’s Economic Voice of Reason This Week
Kai Ryssdal has been the host of Marketplace, a leading daily radio show and podcast about the economy, produced by American Public Media, since 2005. He delivers the news—from the bitter latest on our 401(k)s to unexpected interviews about the modern-day resurgence of train robberies—with an affable, direct tone.And when he has something he wants listeners to know—as he did all this week, while the policies of the Trump administration sent the stock market, and the global economy, into a tailspin—he’ll just come right out and say it.This week on The Kicker, Ryssdal explains what, exactly, just happened with the economy, and why he feels it’s so important for Marketplace to call it like they see it.Read and hear more:*Listen to Marketplace here, or wherever you get your podcasts.*“No, I do not.” A report on Ryssdal’s 2019 interview with Janet Yellen, on whether Donald Trump understands macroeconomics.*“The institutions of this economy work in no small part because the institutions of this democracy work.” Ryssdal’s final comments on February 13.Hosted by Josh HershProduced by Amanda Darrach

Apr 4, 2025 • 20min
Carlos Watson Goes Free: A Surprising Coda to the CJR Podcast
Prosecutors weren’t notified in advance, witnesses are in shock—and Watson’s family celebrates his freedom.On the day that Carlos Watson, the founder of the digital media company Ozy Media, was due to turn himself in to prison last week, to begin serving a nearly ten-year sentence for fraud and identity theft, he and his family received some unexpected good news: President Donald Trump was commuting his sentence.Susie Banikarim, who attended nearly every day of the trial last year, and cohosted the CJR special podcast series “The Unraveling of Ozy Media,” returns to The Kicker to explain how this wild turn of events came to pass, and what Watson’s family, former employees—and even the prosecutors—have had to say so far.Read more:*“The Unraveling of Ozy Media”—a three-part podcast series from CJR, including a special presentation of evidence from the original trial*“The Sentencing of Carlos Watson”—a report from Watson’s last day in courtHosted by Josh HershProduced by Amanda Darrach

Mar 28, 2025 • 25min
Molly White Knows You Don’t Understand Crypto
If you thought “DOGE” only stood for the “Department of Government Efficiency”—well, you’re not alone. The world of crypto is full of double meanings and inside jokes, making the recent arrival of these alternative currency markets—and their attendant “crypto bros”—into the seat of power in Washington all the more mystifying.Enter Molly White, a longtime crypto researcher (and skeptic) whose work has appeared in the New York Times as well as in her self-published newsletter, Citation Needed. On this week’s episode, Molly explains what journalists, and everyone else, need to know about meme coins (dogecoin, $TRUMP), crypto’s grifty culture, and what recent policy changes mean for the average consumer.Read more:*Lauren Watson in CJR on the lessons of crypto media.*The Times on how Trump’s meme coin made a few people very rich—at the expense of most everyone else (with research by White).*White on the strategic bitcoin reserve, and how the crypto industry is trying to shed itself of government oversight.Hosted by Josh HershProduced by Amanda Darrach

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Mar 12, 2025 • 25min
The Legal War on Journalism
Over the past several months, Donald Trump has mounted a series of legal attacks against the media, including a libel case against ABC, an FCC investigation into CBS, and a lawsuit accusing an Iowa pollster (and the newspaper that publishes her) of “election interference.”The sometimes far-fetched claims in these cases notwithstanding, the maneuvers are having an effect. The parent company of ABC settled the libel case, over the objections of many news staffers, and CBS has turned over internal documents to the FCC. And as Lynn Oberlander, this week’s guest and a longtime media lawyer, explains, the legal assault is already creating a chilling effect in many newsrooms. Read More:*The lawsuit against Iowa pollster Ann Selzer and the Des Moines Register. Selzer’s attorneys have fought back. *ABC pays $15 million to settle a libel lawsuit, over the objections of news staffers.*CBS turns over raw transcripts in FCC probe.*FCC commissioner Brendan Carr described his aggressive strategy at a recent Semafor media conference.

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Feb 27, 2025 • 28min
The Kicker, the Masseuses, and the Price of Doing Sports Journalism
In January, the Baltimore Banner released an investigation into the star kicker of the Baltimore Ravens, in which multiple women accused him of sexually inappropriate behavior during massages, dating back years. (The player denies the accusations.)It was an example of a rare kind of journalism these days: hard-hitting accountability reporting on sports. Over the past several years, numerous investigative sports outlets have folded, replaced largely by soft-focused content produced by players and teams themselves.Small, community-based publications like the Banner face the highest toll for doing this kind of work—boxed out of access from teams, they risk losing a pivotal connection they have with subscribers. But Chris Korman, the paper’s sports editor, says it’s worth it anyway.Read more:*The Banner’s investigation into Ravens kicker Justin Tucker*From the CJR archives: Can sports journalism survive in the era of the athlete? (2024)Hosted by Josh HershProduced by Amanda Darrach

Feb 13, 2025 • 27min
A Warning from a Hungarian Journalist: ‘Brace Yourself for the Worst’
András Pethő, a Hungarian journalist and co-founder of Direkt36, discusses the alarming erosion of press freedom in Hungary under Viktor Orbán's regime. He shares insights on the powerful film 'The Dynasty,' which uncovers the wealth of political elites. Pethő emphasizes the severe challenges journalists face against censorship and the importance of independent media in defending democracy. He warns that the situation could mirror trends in the U.S., urging journalists to adapt and resist pressures while remaining vigilant for the future.

Jan 31, 2025 • 33min
CJR’s Jon Allsop on the Return of the Trump Whirlwind
Jon Allsop writes and edits The Media Today, CJR’s daily newsletter. There, he’s closely watched as the American press has struggled to respond to, and cover, the barrage of news that pours out of Donald Trump.As a frenetic new term begins, Jon joins The Kicker to share his thoughts on what the media gets wrong—and how the political press might begin to chart a new relationship with the presidency and the public.Read More:*Jon’s latest newsletter, on Trump’s first week back in office*Jon’s 2020 essay on how the media handled Trump’s first term*Chris Hayes on attention, on Ezra Klein’s podcast*Susan Glasser on Trump’s exhausting litany of outragesSign up for The Media Today, CJR’s daily newsletter.

Jan 14, 2025 • 30min
Coda’s Natalia Antelava on Meta, Trump, and How Journalism Can Survive 2025
Natalia Antelava spent many years as a correspondent for the BBC, before starting her own media company, Coda Story, in 2016. She’s covered wars in the Middle East and the rise of authoritarianism across Eastern Europe and the Caucasus. For the past year, she was a Knight Fellow at Stanford, where she examined how journalism might survive in an era of AI and tech supremacy.Antelava joins The Kicker to talk about Meta’s decision to do away with fact-checking, preparing for a second Trump administration, what mainstream reporters can learn from conservative podcasters—and why she’s still optimistic about what journalism can achieve in the year to come.Read more:“Noise Is the New Censorship” — Antelava on disinformation and authoritarianism“Grieving California” — Coda’s 2018 essay on the Tubbs FireHosted by Josh HershProduced by Amanda Darrach

Dec 12, 2024 • 1h 3min
The Unraveling of Ozy Media: Episode 3: The Verdict and the Pain
In the finale, Carlos Watson takes the stand—and the jury reaches a verdict.“The Unraveling of Ozy Media” is a special three-part series of The Kicker, on the trial of Carlos Watson and the excesses of the digital media age, presented by the Columbia Journalism Review.Hosted and coproduced by Josh Hersh and Susie BanikarimProduced and edited by Amanda Darrach

Dec 10, 2024 • 53min
The Unraveling of Ozy Media: Episode 2: Built on a Bluff
The trial of Carlos Watson reveals shocking practices that drove Ozy Media to decline, likening it to the chaotic Fyre Festival. Speakers share their experiences in media startups, shedding light on the normalization of exaggeration and questionable metrics. The narrative exposes the legal troubles surrounding Watson, highlighting securities fraud and identity theft. A key witness's testimony uncovers a stunning fraudulent call to Goldman Sachs, laying bare a web of deceit. This captivating tale warns of the dire consequences of desperation in the media landscape.