Recode Replay

TMZ founder Harvey Levin talks with Recode's Kara Swisher and Peter Kafka about the business of fast-paced reporting on the entertainment world. He argues that the line between television and the internet will disappear within the next decade and disputes the notion that Peter Thiel's campaign against Gawker Media is a big deal. Levin also defends the practice of paying for photos and videos, although he says he can't remember the last time TMZ paid for a news tip.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Didi Chuxing CEO Jean Liu and Grab Group CEO Anthony Tan talk with The Verge's Walt Mossberg and Recode's Kara Swisher about operating ride-hailing services in China and Singapore, respectively. Since December, the two companies have partnered with Lyft and one another in what some have called an anti-Uber alliance. They discuss why they still subsidize ride-sharing prices even though they have raised ample cash, including, in Didi's case, $1 billion from Apple. Tan also announces that Lyft's global fleet will now be accessible through Grab's app. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Photographer Helena Price talks about the isolation of being a techie who doesn't look like the white, male, Ivy League-educated stereotype. After seven years in San Francisco, she launched a project to photograph the often unseen faces of the U.S. tech industry. Price hopes her photo project, Techies, will inspire people who do fit the stereotype to reconsider if tech is really the meritocracy they believe it to be. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how he's trying to evolve Cisco beyond its hardware roots to a business driven by software and online services. No one company can do everything, Robbins says, which is why he has partnered with and invested in many other tech companies and startups. Perhaps the best-known of those partners: Apple. Robbins also discusses the internet of things and what he thinks of hot enterprise startups that compete with Cisco, such as Slack.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Crowdpac CEO Steve Hilton presents a data-based critique of modern American politics. Government is where meaningful change happens, he says, but people are less and less interested in either voting or running for office. He proposes that technology can overcome this apathy and break up the entrenched power of political insiders. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey and civil rights activist DeRay Mckesson talk with Recode's Peter Kafka about how Twitter can both help and hurt political causes such as #BlackLivesMatter. Dorsey acknowledges that Twitter has often failed to prevent abuse and says he's trying to help it reach its full potential without compromising users' safety. The two talk about their sometimes conflicting opinions of how Twitter should grow, and Mckesson pitches his ideas for applying social media to protests, which he calls "telling the truth in public." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Born This Way Foundation President Cynthia Germanotta, the mother of pop music star Lady Gaga, announces the official launch of the anti-harassment campaign Hack Harassment. She tells the story of how a college-age Gaga, née Stefani Germanotta, was taunted and harassed to the point of depression. Hack Harassment is a collaboration among Born This Way, Intel, Vox Media and Recode, but Germanotta argues that a much larger effort is needed to solve the problem. She challenges Code attendees to take the #HackHarassment pledge at HackHarassment.com/code. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg and CTO Mike Shroepfer talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about the two controversies recently faced by the social media giant: Board member Peter Thiel's vendetta against Gawker Media and allegations that Facebook's trending topics were chosen with a liberal bias. Sandberg says Thiel was acting independently and will remain on the board, while Schroepfer reiterates that Facebook found no "systematic bias" but is still trying to communicate openly. Plus: Where does Facebook's platform go from here and should publishers be afraid of that answer? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Bill and Melinda Gates talk with The Verge's Walt Mossberg about the sixth anniversary of the Gates Foundation's Giving Pledge, which commits billionaires to give most of their wealth to charitable causes. They argue that many wealthy entrepreneurs underestimate their own ability to apply business innovation to philanthropy. Melinda Gates is currently focused on improving women's access to contraception, while Bill Gates says vaccination efforts in the Middle East will completely wipe out polio worldwide by 2017. He also discusses how he views recent advances in artificial intelligence: "The dream is finally arriving."  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

enture capitalist Yuri Milner projects what it will take for humans to expand their understanding of space. A tiny device called a StarChip, weighing less than one gram, can be paired with a LightSail to make an unmanned "nanocraft," which can go much deeper into space than humans on a chemically fueled ship. Milner says nanocrafts face several challenges today, but should be feasible within 25-30 years. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices