Recode Replay

Ashley McCollum, the general manager of BuzzFeed's hit food video series Tasty, and Red Rooster Harlem owner Marcus Samuelsson talk with Recode's Peter Kafka about the changing format and audience for foodie entertainment. McCollum explains how Tasty was developed, how it reached 500 million viewers per month and how it makes money through branded content. Samuelsson, who had appeared on cooking TV shows in the past, came to Tasty last year to teach viewers how to make southern fried chicken; he also discusses how he's using platforms like Instagram and YouTube to reach diners. Also on the menu: How Brexit and Donald Trump's presidency have affected their work, with Samuelsson arguing that American food would not exist without immigrants. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Washington Post Executive Editor Marty Baron talks with Recode's Kara Swisher and The Verge's Walt Mossberg about how the Post has been covering the Trump administration, including recent reports that triggered the resignation of National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. Baron says that in the Trump era, political journalism must be less "access-driven," and reporters should shine a light on the upheaval in Washington, D.C. He responds to White House claims that the press is the "opposition party," discusses when the Post would use the word "lie" and explains how the paper's owner, Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos, has helped shape its digital strategy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apple SVP Eddy Cue and Propagate Content co-CEO Ben Silverman talk with Recode's Peter Kafka about Apple's first TV programs, "Planet of the Apps" and "Carpool Karaoke," which will be distributed on Apple Music. "Planet of the Apps" tells the story of several software developers competing for $10 million in venture capital investment; "Carpool Karaoke" is a spinoff of the popular comedy segment from "The Late Late Show With James Corden." Later in the interview, "Carpool" producer Ben Winston joins the group onstage. Cue says Apple is using its music-streaming platform as a place to try new things that competitors aren't doing, including reality TV, but won't say if Apple will offer a "skinny bundle" of TV channels. They also discuss the podcasting resurgence, what Apple can do about fake news and when Amazon will have an app on Apple TV. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

AwesomenessTV CEO Brian Robbins talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about selling his company multiple times and making media aimed at teens. Robbins says Generation Z, which is more serious, multicultural and politically engaged than millennials, wants to see itself reflected more on the screen, and is actively creating content, not just consuming it. He discusses why it's important for people in media to talk about politics, how he looks at platforms like Facebook, Snapchat and YouTube, and why he's not interested in making content for virtual reality. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Blumhouse Productions founder Jason Blum talks with Recode's Peter Kafka about making horror movies with directors such as M. Night Shyamalan and Jordan Peele. Blumhouse promises those filmmakers total creative control over movies like "Insidious," "The Purge" and "Split" in exchange for lower budgets. Blum calls his studio an "outsider in the Hollywood system," with a model that most other studios have struggled to replicate. Horror works better than other genres, he says, because you don't need big stars or big budgets to succeed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

BuzzFeed UK Editor in Chief Janine Gibson talks with Recode's Peter Kafka about how shifts in both politics and the media business are changing journalism. She explains some of the differences in coverage of Brexit and Donald Trump, both of which saw intense scrutiny and criticism aimed at the media. Gibson also discusses the rise of fake news and why WikiLeaks — an organization she worked with often at the Guardian — seemingly became more raw and antagonistic in 2016. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Politico co-founder Jim VandeHei talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new not-yet-launched publication Axios, which will center on business, technology, politics and media. VandeHei argued that journalists spend too much time talking to each other, and that there is public demand for media that is smart, short and shareable. Axios will initially be supported by advertising, but VandeHei says he envisions an eventual shift to premium news subscriptions that cost $10,000 or more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Turner CEO John Martin talks with Recode's Peter Kafka about the impact of the 2016 election on Turner-owned CNN. Martin says President-elect Donald Trump has been good for business (profits are up), even though Trump regularly tweets about his dissatisfaction with the company's flagship cable news channel. Martin notes that CNN, which he says tries to be less partisan than rivals Fox News and MSNBC, won't change its journalistic mission post-election. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the company's complicated relationship with Microsoft, which has been both a partner and — increasingly of late — an enemy to the CRM giant. Benioff wants government regulators to more rigorously challenge M&A like Microsoft's acquisition of LinkedIn, which he says is an example of too much data being consolidated in one company. He also talks about how Twitter, a company Salesforce had considered buying, helped elect Donald Trump to the U.S. presidency. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

LinkedIn CEO Jeff Weiner talks with Recode's Kara Swisher and Kurt Wagner about the skills workers will need as technology continues to disrupt businesses in all industries. Weiner argues that the U.S. focuses too much on four-year college degrees and not enough on vocational training and certification. His desire to rethink skills training may be in part because LinkedIn now owns online education platform Lynda. He noted that, according to the World Economic Forum, new tech will displace more than five million jobs by 2020. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices