Payments on Fire™

The Glenbrook partners reflect on key trends and challenges in the payments industry that shaped 2024 - from generative AI, open banking, the evolving regulatory landscape, and the rise of fast payment systems worldwide. And you can't get the Glenbrook team in a "room" without discussing ongoing fraud implications, orchestration in merchant payments, and the progress of tokenization. Tune in to hear insights from our industry experts on these themes and more as we wrap up the year and look towards 2025.

Real end-to-end testing requires real-world transactions. Sometimes that’s not too difficult to do if you are implementing payments in your own country. But step outside your border, and it gets a bit harder.  People new to payments turn to logical solutions when faced with this problem. Can you call the acquirer? Won’t they have test accounts for us to use? (Probably not.) Can’t we just drip a few transactions through with a few live customers to see how it goes? (Sure, but you may wait a long time to run through all the scenarios you would like to see - and there usually isn’t patience for that in a launch environment.) It’s tough, but don’t be discouraged. Mercifully, a subspeciality of payment providers has set out to solve this problem. And that is the focus of this episode. Steve Semelsberger, CEO of Testlio, joins Yvette Bohanan and Drew Edmond to discuss the evolution of quality management alongside payments testing.  

Payments and treasury are two sides of the same coin. Payments teams are responsible for the customer journey - payments into a company and sometimes disbursements to sellers, app developers, content creators, or vendors. Their role usually includes working with banks and other providers to ensure money moves into and out of the company’s accounts correctly and efficiently.  Treasurers are responsible for managing cash, ensuring the efficient flow of funds, and ensuring that things like currency conversion are not eroding margins. Fintechs often have those goals and are usually searching for a bank sponsor who understands what they are trying to build.  Debopama Sen, Head of Payments at Citi Treasury and Trade Solutions, joins us for this episode to explore how treasury and payments professionals can collaborate on opportunities presented by the evolving payments landscape.   

Yvette Bohanan and Russ Jones celebrate the 10-year anniversary of the announcement of Apple Pay by reflecting on its origins, challenges, and successes. The episode highlights key features like tokenization, encryption, and biometric authentication, emphasizing Apple Pay's focus on security, privacy, and convenience. Tune in to take a look back at Apple Pay’s significant impact on the payments industry and a look forward to its continued expansion.

Dewald Nolte from Entersekt and Amandeep Batra from Stripe dive into the complexities of 3-D Secure in online payments. They discuss the U.S.'s resistance to strong customer authentication despite its benefits for fraud reduction. The conversation highlights the trade-off between consumer convenience and transaction security. They also explore innovative solutions like AI-driven tools and the importance of data sharing between merchants and issuers to bolster transaction trust. Their insights reveal the evolving landscape and ongoing challenges in making online transactions safer.

While “paying into” a company comes with nuance and complexity, it’s really nothing compared to what is involved when a business attempts to make an outgoing payment.  Most of us don’t think very much about these “payouts”. It’s been the domain of ERP software for decades, often an asterisk mentioning “supported payments”. Whether you are talking about B2B payments, expense reimbursements, or mass disbursements to gig workers, payouts started having a moment a few years ago.  Manish Vrishaketu, Chief Customer and Operations Officer at Tipalti, joins us for this episode to  dive into why payouts have been overlooked for so long, what makes them challenging to master, and what is happening that may make things better and easier for a “niche” specialization in our industry that happens to be incredibly important for every company on the planet.  

It’s September 2024, and this month, we’re focusing on business-to-business payments. B2B payments are difficult because so much information must be exchanged for them to process efficiently. But there’s more to it than that. B2B payments are many things to many people - for finance teams, they are “payables”; for gig economy companies, they are “payouts”; for providers, like insurance companies, they are “claims payments.” The list goes on - and within each of these sub-categories, there are niggling nuances that are requirements for making these payments streamlined and affordable. For today’s episode, we pulled a favorite from our vault - number 146, a discussion between George Peabody and Robin Gandhi. Since this aired in March of 2021, Robin has moved to a post as Chief Product Officer at Nium, and TripActions has rebranded to Navan. But the underlying ideas discussed regarding B2B are still important - and this idea of multi-player fintech and what it means for B2B payments is quite relevant.

The introduction of real-time payments in the U.S. market has been unfolding for several years now, but it seemed to pick up momentum in the last year as FedNow came to market. We now have over 1,000 banks live with real-time payments (at least for receiving) and a solid majority of transaction accounts are now reachable via FedNow, The Clearing House’s RTP system, or both. We wanted to understand whether we might be reaching the elusive “tipping point” for real-time payments in the U.S. and which players and what kind of use cases might be driving the growth. So, we turned to an old and respected friend of Glenbrook to share a perspective. In this episode, we go deep on the state of real-time with Dimitri Dadiomov. Dimitri is CEO at Modern Treasury, which gives him a birds-eye view of transaction trends as his company connects major corporations and leading-edge fintech platforms to a growing set of major banks in order to enable and streamline the origination of many money movement use cases.

Sometimes an episode sticks with me. It just keeps coming back in different ways. Reading an article, having a conversation, even watching TV can make me stop and reflect on a recording. This is exactly what has been happening since we sat down with Dr. David Maimon, Head of Fraud Insights at SentiLink, to talk about fraud. As always, we covered a lot of ground in this episode. As you might expect, we talked fraud trends. What you might not expect is a conversation, most enlightening, on the psychology of fraud and those who perpetrate it. Many thanks to David for sharing his insights on the dark web, on this podcast and regularly on LinkedIn. If you are not following him there, you should be. Last but not least, a shout out to Georgia State University and the work they are doing in their Evidence-based Cybersecurity Research Group. Good stuff.

In this Fanning the Flames episode of Payments on Fire, Glenbrook’s Bryan Derman, Chris Uriarte, and Russ Jones discuss Mastercard's bold June announcement to eliminate manual card number entry for eCommerce transactions in Europe by 2030, and explore the challenges and necessary steps to achieve this goal. The conversation centers around three core components from the announcement: tokenization, streamlined guest checkouts, and authentication via passkeys. Tune in to hear more about the mechanics of these technologies, their industry adoption, and implications for merchants, issuers, and cardholders.