Behind The Wall

In this episode of Behind The Wall, we dive into the incredible journey of Jason Evigan, a powerhouse songwriter and producer behind some of the biggest hits in modern music. From crafting global anthems for Maroon 5, Demi Lovato, Jason Derulo, Ellie Goulding, Nick Jonas, Benson Boone, RÜFÜS DU SOL, and even Madonna and David Guetta, Jason's fingerprints are all over the pop music landscape. His work has topped charts, broken records, and resonated with millions worldwide.But behind the success, Jason found himself at a crossroads—after years of chasing chart-toppers and commercial hits, he made a bold decision: to stop focusing on just making hits and instead create music with artists that connect with him on a deeper level. He traded the pressure of industry expectations for artistic fulfillment, choosing to collaborate with musicians who inspire him, rather than just aiming for commercial success.And here’s where it gets even crazier—For the first time ever, Jason takes us Behind The Wall for an exclusive, never-before-seen deep dive into his original demos, revealing the early versions of some of the biggest hits of our time! In this exclusive segment, Jason breaks down the stories behind: 🎵 "Girls Like You" (Maroon 5) – The original demo and how the song almost went to a completely different artist. 🎵 "Chains" (Nick Jonas) – The raw demo that helped shape Nick’s sound and the incredible story of how it came together. 🎵 "Hate Me" (Ellie Goulding) – The evolution from demo to the hit you know today. 🎵 "What Lovers Do" (Maroon 5) – Who almost snagged this smash hit before it landed with Maroon 5.These demos, featuring vocals from the original songwriters, are only available to our Behind The Wall community, making this an insane, one-of-a-kind experience you won’t find anywhere else. If you’ve ever wondered how your favorite songs come to life—from an idea in the studio to chart-topping success—this is your chance to see it firsthand.ONLY ON PATREON: patreon.com/user?u=32350478 Jason’s story is a powerful reminder that success isn’t just about hits; it’s about creating something meaningful, staying true to your vision, and finding joy in the process. Whether you're an aspiring songwriter, an artist, or just someone who loves the magic of music, this episode is a masterclass in creativity, resilience, and self-belief.Where You Can Find More of Jason Evigan:*Playlist of The Songs Jason Co-Wrote: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1EFJsmusdNvXOG?si=1d59d8970b394246 *Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasonevigan/?hl=en *TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@elephant_heart*Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/@danielsecretwall*Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2nwPBvsuf070C7KYSWoXbD?si=Co9XWKFhRSGgDXf2Vq8NRQ Where You Can Find More of Daniel Wall:*YouTube: ‪https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall*TikTok: ‪https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall *Instagram: ‪https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/?hl=en*Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/@danielsecretwall*Playlist of The Songwriters: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7zub00BWq11qjXx2aMM0b2?si=12a20c414c50486f✨ A heartfelt thank you to everyone who helped bring this episode to life.I’m beyond grateful to my incredible team, to everyone who has supported me throughout this journey, and of course, to Jason Evigan for sharing his story with such honesty and passion.

This interview is dedicated to the beloved artist and One Direction's own, Liam Payne. I never had the honor of meeting Liam, but his presence in music meant so much to me and so many others around the world. His voice and impact will live on forever. In this interview, I had the privilege of chatting with legendary songwriter, Savan Kotecha. One of the key people who helped Liam, One Direction, and so many artists find their voice. This conversation was recorded before Liam's tragic passing; a loss that has deeply affected so many around the world. And I wish that Liam could see how many people and how many lives he changed because of his incredible because of his incredible voice, his incredible message, and his incredible music. Before we begin, Savan asked me to share this heartfelt message in honor of Liam and his family: "Hey everyone, Since this interview with Daniel was recorded, the world has changed with the tragic passing of Liam Payne. As you’ll hear in my conversation with Daniel, my time with Liam and One Direction was truly life-changing. Liam played a huge role in making my wildest dreams come true. He was a light, and I will forever be grateful that he was a part of my life. I know I speak for millions of fans when I say he will be missed beyond words. Lots of love, savan" Savan Kotecha: The Genius Behind the Hits That Defined a Generation 🎶 In this episode of Behind The Wall, we sit down with the legendary Savan Kotecha, a songwriter and producer whose work has shaped the sound of modern pop music. With over 375 million records sold worldwide, hundreds of billions of streams, and a unique perspective on the creative process, Savan’s genius has defined global pop music like no other. As one of the most successful creatives in music, Savan’s journey is an inspiring story of breaking barriers and redefining representation in the global music industry. From humble beginnings in Texas, he overcame rejection, self-doubt, and the challenges of finding his voice in the competitive music world. Through persistence, passion, and an unrelenting work ethic, Savan went on to co-write some of the biggest songs of all time for artists like One Direction, Ariana Grande, The Weeknd, Ellie Goulding’, Usher, and so many more. Years later, Savan has become one of the most successful and sought-after songwriters in the world. Yet, as he shares in this conversation, success is about more than numbers—it’s about the lives you touch and the moments you create. In this heartfelt and inspiring discussion, Savan opens up about his creative process, his perspective on success, and the never-before-heard stories behind the biggest songs he’s helped create. Whether you’re a music fan or an aspiring creator, this episode is a masterclass in creativity, resilience, and the power of belief. Where You Can Find More of Savan Kotecha: Playlist of Songs Savan Co-Wrote: Spotify Instagram: @savan_kotecha TikTok: @savan_kotecha Facebook: kananisongs Spotify Artist Profile: Savan Kotecha Where You Can Find More of Daniel Wall: YouTube: Daniel’s Wall TikTok: @danielswall Instagram: @danielwall Facebook: danielsecretwall Playlist of The Songwriters: Spotify Special Thanks to the people who helped me bring this episode to life Creative Director: Ryan Bell Editors: Danial Yahaya & Noah McGuire Thumbnail Designer: Asif My friends and family: You know who you are ❤️ I’m so grateful for everyone who have pushed and supported me on this journey. Thank you, Savan, for going Behind The Wall with us and sharing your incredible stories! You are truly one of the most prolific songwriters ever. The songs you’ve helped create have defined not just a generation but my own journey. Hearing the stories behind those songs was an absolute dream come true. Thank you for being so open and vulnerable in this conversation. I’m grateful for the opportunity to learn from you and look forward to many more incredible conversations in the future!

In this episode of Behind The Wall, we sit down with the incredibly talented Amy Allen, a songwriter whose work has defined the sound of modern pop music. She’s the creative force behind some of the biggest songs in recent years, co-writing hits for Halsey, Harry Styles, Selena Gomez, Sabrina Carpenter, Tate McRae, and many more. With a gift for crafting songs that are as emotionally resonant as they are unforgettable, Amy has become a true powerhouse in the industry.But Amy’s story goes far beyond her impressive list of chart-topping hits. In our conversation, she shares her journey from doubting her abilities as a songwriter to becoming one of the most sought-after names in music. From her beginnings in Maine to collaborating with global superstars, Amy opens up about her evolution as both a songwriter and an artist.Whether you’re a music lover or an aspiring creator, Amy’s story is a masterclass in resilience, self-belief, and finding your voice in a competitive world. Her journey proves that the stories behind the music can be just as compelling as the songs themselves. Congrats on getting nominated for Songwriter of The Year Amy! We’re all rooting for you! Where You Can Find More of Amy Allen:*Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/4Ebm2DC4Spo173X85D1n5x?si=xtx-nWdDRbSFs_ti_d2HnQ *Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amyallen/?hl=en *TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@amyallenmusic?lang=en *YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/@AmyAllen/featured *Playlist of The Songs Bonnie Co-Wrote: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1EFAW2Wx2Q7Fjt?si=75ca7ed7c9134b41 Where You Can Find More of Daniel Wall:*YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall *TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall *Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/?hl=en *Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/@danielsecretwall *Playlist of The Songwriters: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7zub00BWq11qjXx2aMM0b2?si=12a20c414c50486f 

In this episode, we dive into the extraordinary journey of Bonnie McKee, a creative powerhouse behind some of the most iconic pop hits of our time. Known for her work with Katy Perry, Taio Cruz, Britney Spears and so many more. In fact she not only has over 10 number one hit songs, but Bonnie’s story is more than her accolades. It’s about resilience, reinvention, and blazing her own trail in the music industry. From releasing her solo debut Trouble to writing songs that have sold over 30 million copies worldwide, Bonnie has faced setbacks with an unstoppable spirit. Most recently, she took full creative control, releasing her long-awaited second album Hot City, proving that great songs by great artists stand the test of time.In this episode, Bonnie opens up about the challenges she’s faced, her evolution as a songwriter and performer, and what inspires her to keep creating. Whether you’re an aspiring artist, songwriter, or someone chasing a dream, Bonnie’s story is a masterclass in persistence, passion, and staying true to your voice.Where You Can Find More of Bonnie McKee:*Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/7dtJROxWQe3fxxF5t7o67N?si=OzQLlROPSe6L0tEMBEfRxA *Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bonniemckee/?hl=en*TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bonniemckee *YouTube: @bonniemckeeofficial *Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BonnieMcKeeOfficial *Playlist of The Songs Bonnie Co-Wrote: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1EFC6oJJyHqhbG?si=b209e1459bbb4702 Thank you to the people who helped me bring this episode to life, couldn't have done it without you! Creative Director: Ryan Bell Editors: Noah McGuire & Danial Yahaya Thumbnail Designer: Asif My friends and family: You know who you are ❤️I’m so grateful for everyone who has pushed and supported me on this journey. It’s a privilege to serve as the Founder, Host, and Creative Lead of this project—and to share these stories with all of you! <3A heartfelt thank you to Bonnie for Going Behind The Wall with us and sharing her incredible journey. Her resilience, creativity, and passion for music inspire us all to dream big and keep going, no matter the challenges. I've been wanting to chat with you for so long now, and to have the chance is absolutely incredible. Hopefully many more conversations in the future, but until then, check out Bonnie's album "Hot City" on all platforms now: https://open.spotify.com/album/7IEPLolpdghx1jkNiN2FMT?si=dzW-Q4gpSae9rJ59WAUkzwWhere You Can Find More of Daniel Wall:*YouTube: ‪https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall*TikTok: ‪https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall *Instagram: ‪https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/?hl=en*Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/@danielsecretwall*Playlist of The Songwriters: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7zub00BWq11qjXx2aMM0b2?si=12a20c414c50486f

In this episode, we dive into the remarkable journey of MAX, an artist who has continuously redefined pop music with his vibrant creativity and collaborations. MAX isn’t just a singer-songwriter—he’s a dynamic force in the music industry, known for his work with global icons like BTS’s Suga, as well as his own chart-topping hits.But his story goes far beyond his music. MAX has faced his own challenges along the way, turning each setback into an opportunity for growth and reinvention. Whether it’s his heartfelt anthem "Blueberry Eyes" or his powerful collaborations, MAX’s career is a testament to the power of persistence, authenticity, and connecting deeply with others.In this conversation, MAX shares the personal and creative moments that have shaped his journey—from the highs of working with BTS to the hard lessons learned along the way. His story is a powerful reminder that success in music isn’t just about the hits, but about staying true to yourself and embracing the twists and turns along the way.

In this episode, we uncover the inspiring story of Evan "Kidd" Bogart—an unstoppable creative force who turned setbacks into legendary successes. From discovering Eminem to co-writing massive hits like Beyoncé’s Halo and Rihanna’s SOS, Evan’s journey is one of belief, perseverance, and reinvention.But it's not just about the hits—it's about how Evan navigated the twists and turns of the music industry, betting on himself when no one else would. He faced rejection, yet turned those moments into fuel for his next big break.Evan’s story is a masterclass in resilience and creativity, and it’s sure to inspire the next generation of dreamers and creators. If you have a dream in music, entertainment, or life, this conversation is for you. Where You Can Find More of Evan Bogart: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kiddbogart/?hl=en  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1EFG8Sz0c0uIuJ?si=c59db33faca44573  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kiddbogart Where You Can Find More of DanielYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/@danielsecretwall Playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7zub00BWq11qjXx2aMM0b2?si=271e0a80a4c54a6a 

Ryan Tedder, the frontman of OneRepublic and a prolific songwriter for stars like Beyoncé and Adele, shares the rollercoaster journey of his band. He reflects on their near-failure before skyrocketing to fame with "Apologize" after a last-ditch MySpace upload. Ryan reveals the creative process behind their hits, tackles the balance of leading a band and songwriting, and highlights the relentless persistence that has defined their career. This conversation encapsulates the power of resilience and the magic behind musical evolution.

In this episode, we uncover the remarkable story of Mike Posner, an artist whose career has been defined by reinvention, resilience, and personal growth.Mike Posner burst onto the scene with hits like "Cooler Than Me", but few know the challenges he faced behind the scenes. After being dropped by his label and giving away some of his biggest songs to Justin Bieber and Maroon 5, Mike hit a crossroads. Instead of letting the setbacks define him, he transformed them into his greatest strengths. His hit "I Took a Pill in Ibiza" became an anthem of reflection, marking a turning point in his journey both personally and artistically.In our conversation, Mike opens up about his path to self-discovery, his decision to walk over 2,000 miles across America, and his ultimate conquest of summiting Mount Everest. This episode is a deep dive into the mind of a man who didn’t just make hits—he made a profound impact on how we see persistence, purpose, and the courage to evolve.This series goes beyond music, shining a spotlight on the human stories that inspire change and growth. Mike’s story is a powerful reminder that success isn’t always a straight line—and that the toughest roads often lead to the most meaningful destinations.A huge thank you to Mike for Going Behind The Wall with us! Your story of resilience, creativity, and unwavering determination has been a true inspiration, and I can’t wait to share it with the world.

In this episode, we're diving into the inspiring journey of benny blanco, a true music icon who has shaped the sound of pop music as we know it.benny blanco isn’t just the mastermind behind some of the biggest hit songs—he’s also a genuine, down-to-earth guy who’s just as creative in the kitchen as he is in the studio. From working with legends like Rihanna and Ed Sheeran to crafting his own unforgettable tracks, Benny’s journey is as inspiring as it gets. I got the chance to chat with him about his career, his passions, and the lessons he’s learned along the way, including his latest venture into the world of writing with his new book Open Wide. It’s a deep dive into the life of a true music icon—and we’re going Behind The Wall of it all! But it’s not just about the music. This series is dedicated to shining a light on the people and stories behind the scenes of music, movies, and media—to inspire every underdog out there to pursue their dreams, no matter the obstacles. Benny’s story is a testament to that mission, showing how far passion, creativity, and perseverance can take you.Where You Can Find More of BennySpotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/5CiGnKThu5ctn9pBxv7DGa?si=izWZ2mbLQr6luucG68rK_QInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsbennyblanco/YouTube:  @bennyblanco  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@itsbennyblancoWhere You Can Find More of BennyYouTube:  @DanielsWall  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswallInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/@danielsecretwallPlaylist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7zub00BWq11qjXx2aMM0b2?si=bb702ad9924e4cc4 Thank you, Benny, for Going Behind The Wall with us! It’s been a surreal experience getting to hear your story firsthand and share it with the world. I hope your journey, including your new book Open Wide, inspires others as much as it’s inspired me.

I Interviewed Simon Cowell!Not too long ago, I got an email asking me to interview Simon Cowell at his house. I thought it was a prank, but surprisingly, it wasn’t. I showed up to Simon Cowell’s house where we had one of my favorite conversations yet, especially because of what Simon says at the end! When I was 6 years old, I started watching Season 1 of American Idol every week. As someone who’s always loved music, it became one of my favorite shows as a kid. As I grew up, I learned more and more about music, but the one man who never left our television screens was Simon Cowell. I continued to watch America’s Got Talent, Britain’s Got Talent, X Factor and all the shows. Today, Simon and I talk about why his biggest regret is Britney Spears, how One Direction’s biggest song was made, why Leona Lewis’s biggest song almost never happened, and a partnership he’s doing with one of the biggest songwriters of all time. But many people don’t know that Simon started as a 17 year old mailroom reject. And most people don’t know that the same company that rejected him at 17 is the same company that would distribute his most successful shows years later. But it’s time we go Behind The Wall to learn more his story and his return to music! Thank you Simon for the opportunity to get to know you a little better and chat about how you plan to change the music industry. And who knows, maybe soon (next year shhhhh) we’ll get to sit down for a full interview about your full story. Where You Can Find Simon CowellInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/simoncowell/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/simoncowell?lang=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@stemdrop Thank you to every person who has helped me make this episode into a reality!Manager & Partner: Alec UdellCreative Director While Filming: Aaron KellyThumbnail Designer: Jack Gordon / Jonathan SippelEditor: Directed by B & Daniel WallCreative Editor: Daniel WallMentors: Tim, Jake Udell, Brody, Phil, David Foster, Loren Allred, Chris Martin, Ryan T,, Ryan HFriends that kept me sane during this time: Brandon: @CleanThatUp, Tyler Walsh, Ryan Bell, Zach Cohan, Tyler PoelkingAnd Mostly Importantly THANK YOU SIMON!!!! Two podcasts that inspired me to make this series: And The Writer is... By The One and Only Ross Golan! and How To Take Over The World!!!!! ← Fav Podcast Right Now