

Code Switch
NPR
What's CODE SWITCH? It's the fearless conversations about race that you've been waiting for. Hosted by journalists of color, our podcast tackles the subject of race with empathy and humor. We explore how race affects every part of society — from politics and pop culture to history, food and everything in between. This podcast makes all of us part of the conversation — because we're all part of the story. Code Switch was named Apple Podcasts' first-ever Show of the Year in 2020.Want to level up your Code Switch game? Try Code Switch Plus. Your subscription supports the show and unlocks a sponsor-free feed. Learn more at plus.npr.org/codeswitch
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Feb 16, 2022 • 32min
Can therapy solve racism?
In 2020, nearly 20% of Americans turned to therapy. Many of those people were looking for a space to process some of the big, painful events they were living through, including the pandemic, a contentious election cycle, and of course, the summer's racial reckoning. But that had us wondering: What exactly can therapy accomplish? Can it mitigate the effects of racism? Help us undo how we internalize racial trauma? Today, we're sharing the stories of two Latinx people who tried to use therapy as a means to understand and combat anti-Blackness in their own lives.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Feb 9, 2022 • 36min
Humor, poetry and romance on Code Switch Live
Live from your computer screens, it's Code Switch! Guest hosts Ayesha Rascoe and Denice Frohman joined us to talk poetry and humor with special guests Paul Tran and Hari Kondabolu. Then, Ayesha and Denice answered your questions about race and love.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Feb 7, 2022 • 25min
Bonus Episode: Consider the Lobstermen
In Canada, tensions between indigenous fishermen and commercial fishermen have been simmering for decades. On today's bonus episode, from our friends at NPR's Planet Money team, we travel to Nova Scotia to figure out how a group of Mi'kmaw fishermen asserted their rights to fish and what happened when commercial lobsterman struck back hard.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Feb 2, 2022 • 34min
The 'double-edged sword' of being a Black first
It's Black History Month, which is likely to bring boundless stories of Black Excellence and Black Firsts. So today on the show, we're talking about Constance Baker Motley — a trailblazing civil rights judge who paved the way for many to come after her (including, perhaps, the next Supreme Court justice?) But, as we learned, Motley's life was full of contradictions, and her many achievements also came with many costs.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Jan 30, 2022 • 49min
Bonus: Getting real (like, really real) with Gabrielle Union
We hear the phrase "unapologetically Black" thrown around a lot. But what does it actually mean? In this bonus episode from our newest play cousins at NPR's The Limits podcast, actress, businessperson, and author Gabrielle Union talks about what it meant for her to stop paying so much attention to what white people wanted from her.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Jan 26, 2022 • 33min
Playing Pretendian
People lie about being Native American all the time – on college applications, on job applications, in casual conversation. But how do "Pretendians" hurt real Indigenous people and communities? And what does all that mean for people who aren't quite sure if they're claiming or reclaiming?Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Jan 23, 2022 • 35min
Bonus: Remembering the iconic, complicated André Leon Talley
Since he died this week, André Leon Talley has been described over and over again as "larger than life." But on this episode, brought to us by our friends at NPR's It's Been a Minute podcast, three queer Black men talk about the smaller, more personal moments that made Talley such an icon in the fashion world — and in the broader culture.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Jan 19, 2022 • 25min
A whiteness that's only skin deep
We use words related to color to describe different racial categories all the time — Black, white, brown. But how much of race and identity actually has to do with the color of your skin? What if what appears to be "whiteness" is only skin deep? Today we're sharing stories from people of color with albinism whose experiences challenge what many people think they know about race.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Jan 12, 2022 • 35min
They came, they saw, they reckoned?
It's now been more than a year since the so-called "racial reckoning" that marked the summer of 2020. The country, some said confidently, was having the biggest racial reckoning since the civil rights movement. But since then, the Code Switch team has been wondering...what was actually being reckoned with? And by whom? And what would the backlash be?Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Jan 5, 2022 • 50min
Nikole Hannah-Jones on the power of collective memory
What stories do we learn about the history of the United States? Who dreamed up those stories? And what happens when we challenge them? This week on the pod, our play cousins at NPR's Throughline podcast talk to journalist Nikole Hannah-Jones about the historical argument she tried to make with the 1619 project.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy


