
Code Switch
What's CODE SWITCH? It's the fearless conversations about race that you've been waiting for. Hosted by journalists of color, our podcast tackles the subject of race with empathy and humor. We explore how race affects every part of society — from politics and pop culture to history, food and everything in between. This podcast makes all of us part of the conversation — because we're all part of the story. Code Switch was named Apple Podcasts' first-ever Show of the Year in 2020.Want to level up your Code Switch game? Try Code Switch Plus. Your subscription supports the show and unlocks a sponsor-free feed. Learn more at plus.npr.org/codeswitch
Latest episodes

Feb 5, 2025 • 35min
Hip-hop is 'fight the power' but also advertises for the power
Exploring the complex journey of hip-hop, the discussion highlights its roots in social resistance and the struggle against capitalism. Critics point out the tension of artists like Kendrick Lamar headlining corporate events like the Super Bowl. The unique role of hip-hop in cultural diplomacy is examined, especially through figures like Toni Blackman. Finally, the podcast tackles the duality of hip-hop as a celebrated art form while facing co-optation by institutions, revealing deep societal implications and systemic racism woven into its fabric.

Jan 29, 2025 • 31min
B.A. Parker is learning the banjo
Rhiannon Giddens, a Grammy and Pulitzer Prize-winning singer and banjo player, shares her journey in reclaiming the banjo's Black heritage. The conversation dives into the rich cultural significance of the banjo in Black music and the personal narratives of those learning the instrument. Giddens emphasizes the importance of community and cultural stewardship among Black banjo players. They discuss the instrument's historical roots, the emotional ties to African American experiences, and the need to navigate identity within a predominantly white music scene.

Jan 22, 2025 • 31min
The co-opting of MLK Jr. by...everybody
Hadjar Yazdia, a professor at USC and author of "The Struggle for the People's King," dives deep into the complex legacy of Martin Luther King Jr. He reveals how King was relatively unpopular at the time of his assassination, yet is now celebrated by diverse political groups. The conversation explores the co-opting of King’s ideals by contemporary movements, examines ideological reinterpretations, and critiques historical revisionism in the media. Yazdia emphasizes the need to reclaim King's original messages for a more accurate understanding of civil rights.

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Jan 15, 2025 • 39min
Why laughing while crying is so Korean
Youngmi Mayer, a comedian and author of "I'm Laughing Because I'm Crying," dives into the rich tapestry of Korean humor. She discusses how laughter often emerges from sorrow, revealing humor as a survival tool in her family. Mayer reflects on the complexities of identity for Korean adoptees and the impact of cultural heritage on comedy. She shares personal experiences illustrating how humor connects generations, while also addressing the bittersweet relationships with her parents and the healing power of laughter amidst inherited struggles.

Jan 8, 2025 • 37min
"The police are our friends"?
Chenjerai Kumanyika, a Professor at NYU Journalism and host of Empire City, discusses how Black parents navigate conversations about police with their children. He shares his personal journey of talking to his daughter, addressing the tension between fear and trust. The conversation highlights the complex legacy of policing, rooted in systemic issues, and the challenges of instilling safety while fostering an understanding of law enforcement. Kumanyika sheds light on historical ties between the NYPD and community relations, urging thoughtful discourse in today's climate.

Jan 1, 2025 • 33min
How celebrating an Ecuadorian New Year's tradition brings us closer together
Dive into the vibrant Ecuadorian tradition of Año Viejo, where families craft and burn effigies to symbolize releasing the past. Personal stories reveal how this nostalgic celebration fosters connections and community, even for those living abroad. Explore the emotional ties to heritage and the joy found in shared rituals, emphasizing reflection and renewal. Discover how these customs help maintain cultural identity while adapting to new environments, all wrapped up in a warm embrace of family and tradition.

Dec 25, 2024 • 47min
He was shot in Vermont. Now he wants to go home to the West Bank
Hisham Awartani, a Palestinian student at Brown University who was tragically shot in Vermont, discusses his journey of recovery and the emotional challenges that accompany it. Accompanied by his mother, Elizabeth Price, they share insights into family resilience amid ongoing conflict. Producer Suzanne Gabber highlights Hisham's unyielding spirit and activism, focusing on the broader implications of violence faced by Arab Americans. The conversation deeply explores identity, belonging, and the longing to return home amidst turmoil.

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Dec 20, 2024 • 18min
Luigi Mangione and America's pent up pain
Abane Clayton, a gun violence reporter for The Guardian, dives deep into the complexities surrounding the recent high-profile shooting involving Luigi Mangione. They discuss the starkly different public reactions and the emotional weight of gun violence in America. Clayton highlights systemic issues in healthcare that contribute to violence while addressing the societal disconnect and racial context in public perception. The conversation uncovers the duality of fear and empathy, calling for a serious reflection on how we view and respond to such tragedies.

Dec 18, 2024 • 35min
Freedom, Autonomy and the Elián González Story
In this riveting discussion, journalist Penny Leigh Ramirez, known for her deep dive into the Elián González story on the Chess Piece podcast, explores the heart-wrenching saga of a young boy caught in a geopolitical storm. She unpacks the intense custody battle, reflecting on themes of family separation and cultural identity. Ramirez highlights the emotional turmoil of Cuban and American families, along with the media frenzy that turned Elián’s fate into a national dialogue, exposing the complexities of love, autonomy, and cultural dissonance.

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Dec 11, 2024 • 37min
Dreaming of a Black Utopia in Trump's America
Aaron Robinson, author of "The Black Utopians," explores the intricate history of Black utopian communities in America, emphasizing their significance during political and racial upheaval. He discusses the rich narratives from the post-Reconstruction era to contemporary examples like Detroit, highlighting resilience in overlooked spaces. The conversation also delves into creating safe environments in response to systemic oppression and envisions a more equitable future for Black communities, all framed within personal stories and cultural reflections.