
Code Switch
What's CODE SWITCH? It's the fearless conversations about race that you've been waiting for. Hosted by journalists of color, our podcast tackles the subject of race with empathy and humor. We explore how race affects every part of society — from politics and pop culture to history, food and everything in between. This podcast makes all of us part of the conversation — because we're all part of the story. Code Switch was named Apple Podcasts' first-ever Show of the Year in 2020.Want to level up your Code Switch game? Try Code Switch Plus. Your subscription supports the show and unlocks a sponsor-free feed. Learn more at plus.npr.org/codeswitch
Latest episodes

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Sep 13, 2023 • 39min
Remembering and unremembering, from Kigali to Nashville
For centuries, the idea of the "American Dream" has been a powerful narrative for many immigrant communities. But for just as long, many African Americans have known that the American Dream was never meant to include them. So what happens when those beliefs collide? Today ten percent of the Black population in the U.S. are immigrants, and many grapple with this question. In this episode, we'll hear from Claude Gatebuke, who moved from Kigali to Nashville as a teenager in the wake of the Rwandan genocide. He talks about how the move to the U.S. likely saved his life, while simultaneously challenging his belief that he could have a full, meaningful future as a Black man.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Sep 6, 2023 • 34min
Fall football — or the fall of football?
This podcast explores the NFL's old problems with race and diversity, including the lack of diversity among NFL head coaches and the ineffectiveness of the Rooney Rule. It delves into the racial dynamics of the NFL scouting combine and discusses the personal experiences of former player Dominique Foxworth. Despite conflicted feelings, the hosts find themselves drawn back into football as their teams perform well.

Aug 30, 2023 • 38min
Bad Bunny, Reggaeton, and Resistance
Bad Bunny, a genre- and gender norm-defying Puerto Rican rapper, becomes a symbol of political dissent in Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria. His impact on Puerto Rican culture and politics is discussed, along with the complexities of race and identity in the reggaeton genre. The emotional connection to one of his songs reflects the love for Puerto Rico. The podcast explores the praise, criticism, and challenges faced by Puerto Rico, highlighting the poignant themes in Bad Bunny's music.

Aug 23, 2023 • 27min
What Makes A Good Race Joke?
Comedians discuss how and why race appears in their jokes, sharing personal experiences and challenges faced by comedians of color. They talk about mistaken assumptions, the impact of identity on stage, and the role of audience perception in shaping jokes. The podcast also explores the topic of superficial and insincere land acknowledgments.

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Aug 16, 2023 • 24min
Family, fortune, and the fight for Osage headrights
A man fights for his share of an Osage headright inheritance, revealing a dark history of violent crimes against the Osage people. He reconnects with his birth family and decides to give his share back to the tribe.

Aug 9, 2023 • 34min
How Hip-Hop Fights The Power — And Also Serves It
Exploring the origin story of hip-hop and its impact on culture, the podcast delves into its diverse sub-genres, influence on language and fashion, and its contradictions as a tool for both resistance and capitalism. It also highlights the global impact of hip-hop, its use by powerful institutions such as the US State Department for diplomacy, and the complex relationship between hip-hop and American institutions.

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Aug 2, 2023 • 33min
Rolling the dice on race in Dungeons & Dragons
Dungeons & Dragons is one of the most popular tabletop role-playing games of all time. But it has also helped cement some ideas about how we create and define race in fantasy — and in the tangible world. This week we revisit a deep dive into that game. What we find about racial stereotypes and colonialist supremacy is illuminating.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Jul 26, 2023 • 34min
Code Switch's beach reads — no beach required
There are race books, and there are beach reads, and never the twain shall meet. You know that old truism, right? Well, this is Code Switch (the show about race and identity and romance and drama from NPR), and we weren't willing to accept that dichotomy. So on this episode, we're bringing you a bouquet of our favorite summer thrillers, love stories, memoirs and more — all of which have something to say about race.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Jul 19, 2023 • 33min
This Conspiracy Soup Contains Bugs — And Racism
Gene Demby and NPR's Huo Jingnan dive into a conspiracy theory about how "global elites" are forcing people to eat bugs. And no huge surprise — the theory's popularity is largely about its loudest proponents' racist fear-mongering.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

Jul 12, 2023 • 37min
Is "home" still home after 30 years away?
Brian de los Santos always thought of Mexico as his "home" — despite not having been able to return to his country of birth for three decades. But when he finally got a chance to visit, his conception of what home was and where he belonged totally shifted.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy