

Code Switch
NPR
What's CODE SWITCH? It's the fearless conversations about race that you've been waiting for. Hosted by journalists of color, our podcast tackles the subject of race with empathy and humor. We explore how race affects every part of society — from politics and pop culture to history, food and everything in between. This podcast makes all of us part of the conversation — because we're all part of the story. Code Switch was named Apple Podcasts' first-ever Show of the Year in 2020.Want to level up your Code Switch game? Try Code Switch Plus. Your subscription supports the show and unlocks a sponsor-free feed. Learn more at plus.npr.org/codeswitch
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Aug 2, 2025 • 17min
You told us — what brings you joy
Listeners share their thoughts on what brings them joy and its connection to justice. The power of joy as a form of resistance is highlighted, showcasing resilience in community and solidarity. Personal stories and music are explored as tools for healing during tough times. There's a focus on literature that portrays both joy and pain, emphasizing diverse voices. A joyful garden party serves as a reminder of the importance of connection amidst challenges, encouraging meaningful conversations and community engagement.

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Jul 30, 2025 • 37min
Is joy an act of resistance?
In this engaging conversation, Kelly Carter Jackson, Chair of the Africana Studies Department at Wellesley College and author of "We Refuse," explores the idea that joy can be a powerful form of resistance. She discusses how finding happiness amidst adversity is vital for resilience and community celebration. Highlighting the historical significance of joy, especially among enslaved women, she presents it as both a coping mechanism and a transformative tool for liberation. The dialogue also reflects on the balance between joy and justice, underscoring the need for rest in activism.

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Jul 23, 2025 • 31min
Protests are near constant. Do they work?
Guest Gloria J. Brown Marshall, a professor and author, dives into the effectiveness of protests throughout history and today. She discusses the ongoing impact of recent protests, from the Women’s March to racial uprisings, analyzing their role in achieving social change. Marshall emphasizes how collective action has shaped America, highlighting the unique strength of youth in activism. Personal stories illustrate the moral complexities involved and the crucial need for informed engagement in the fight against systemic oppression.

Jul 18, 2025 • 2min
Congress has voted to eliminate government funding for public media
Congress's recent decision to cut funding for public media raises significant concerns. The discussion highlights the vital role public media plays in fostering informed communities and healthy discourse. Listeners are urged to consider the consequences of losing these essential services and the importance of supporting them to ensure they remain accessible to everyone. It's a compelling call to action for those who value information and diversity in media.

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Jul 16, 2025 • 31min
The books, movies and music that shaped the Code Switch team
The hosts reflect on how childhood movies, books, and music shaped their understanding of race and identity. They discuss the indie film 'Medicine for Melancholy' and its cultural implications. Significant works like 'Esperanza Rising' and 'Persepolis' are highlighted for their impact on resilience and representation. Personal stories reveal the emotional ties to music, like A Tribe Called Quest's album during times of loss. The conversation invites audience participation to share their own influential pop culture experiences.

Jul 9, 2025 • 34min
From gr*pists to nip nops, how self-censorship shapes the language of TikTok
Join TikTok creator Christian Devine and linguistics professor Kendra Calhoun as they navigate the intriguing world of self-censorship on social media. They discuss the creative use of coded language like 'unalive' to dodge platform restrictions. The duo delves into how marginalized voices adapt their speech to share their experiences, highlighting disparities in content moderation. They also examine the emotional toll on creators facing vague guidelines and the vital role TikTok plays in raising awareness about disability and social justice.

Jul 2, 2025 • 38min
The lighter side of immigration: A day at the park in Queens
Experience a vibrant day at Flushing Meadows Corona Park, where immigrants gather to enjoy community and leisure. Heartwarming stories showcase resilience, such as a local soccer team's victory entwined with personal struggles. Listen to the challenging journey of an Ecuadorian migrant as he reflects on his sacrifices and growth. Discover how parks serve as safe havens for families while celebrating cultural richness through delicious foods and joyful moments. This narrative beautifully balances the everyday joys and hardships faced by immigrants.

Jun 25, 2025 • 39min
Dispatches from the living memory of trans people of color
Caro de Robertis, a talented writer and novelist behind 'So Many Stars,' shares her insights on the rich narratives of trans, non-binary, and Two-Spirit people of color. The conversation highlights the unique challenges they face and the importance of embracing diverse identities. De Robertis discusses the transformative power of language, weaving together themes of resilience and community. Personal stories shed light on the balance of joy and grief in the trans experience, emphasizing the invaluable lessons from queer elders for future generations.

Jun 23, 2025 • 32min
Iranian American identity was under scrutiny long before the U.S. struck Iran
Join Jason Rezaian, an Iranian-American journalist and former Washington Post bureau chief who endured 544 days in a brutal Iranian prison, as he navigates the complexities of Iranian American identity. He reflects on love and loss, his journey through cultural struggles, and the emotional aftermath of U.S.-Iran relations. Through personal anecdotes, he candidly discusses the impact of incarceration, the heritage of ancient Iran, and even finds humor in his memoir, all while urging a deeper understanding of cultural identity amidst geopolitical tensions.

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Jun 18, 2025 • 38min
The administration's fight against antisemitism is dividing Jews
Kenneth Stern, Director of the Bard Center for the Study of Hate and author, discusses the intricate battle over antisemitism definitions. He highlights the divisive nature of the Trump administration's policies, which some argue threaten free speech while claiming to protect Jews. Stern delves into generational divides within the Jewish community about antisemitism and pro-Palestinian activism, revealing how perspectives vary dramatically, especially among younger activists on college campuses. The conversation underscores the need for nuanced dialogue amid escalating tensions.