
Low Down on Low-Code
Join us weekly to discuss the latest and greatest in low-code and digital process automation with executives and experts. Real conversations, no marketing BS. Hosted by Rob Koplowitz, John Rymer, and Ryan Duguid. Visit analysis.tech to get in touch about your personal low-code journey and learn about ways we can help.
Latest episodes

Jun 30, 2025 • 36min
AI & LC Governance w/Antigoni Kourou of NEKOD
In this episode of Lowdown on Low-Code, John Rymer and Rick Greenwald engage with Antigoni Kourou, CEO of NEKOD, to explore the critical topic of governance in low-code and citizen development. Antigoni shares her journey from engineering to governance, emphasizing the importance of balancing innovation with control. The conversation delves into the challenges of data management, the role of AI in citizen development, and best practices for establishing effective governance frameworks. Antigoni advocates for an adaptive governance model that evolves with organizational maturity and risk appetite, highlighting the need for collaboration between business and IT.TakeawaysGovernance is essential for successful citizen development.Antigoni Kourou emphasizes the importance of balancing innovation and control.Organizations must identify individuals willing to digitalize processes.Choosing the right platform is crucial for enabling innovation.Processes must be established to guide citizen developers.Data governance is a significant challenge for enterprises.AI can aid in governance but also introduces new risks.An adaptive governance model can cater to different organizational needs.Collaboration between business and IT is vital for effective governance.Governance frameworks should evolve with organizational maturity.

Jun 23, 2025 • 32min
Shaun Leisegang of Tecala, Automation Guru
In this episode, Francis Carden and Dave Marcus engage with Shaun Leisegang from Tecala to explore the evolving landscape of Low-Code and automation. They discuss Shaun's journey in IT, the methodologies for implementing automation, the significance of orchestration and governance in AI, and the future of services transitioning into software. The conversation emphasizes the need for businesses to adapt to new technologies while ensuring responsible and effective implementation.TakeawaysLow-Code is a transformative approach to software development.Automation methodologies help businesses identify where to start.AI agents represent the next evolution of automation.Orchestration is crucial for integrating various automation tools.Governance should be prioritized in AI implementations.Businesses must adapt to new technologies to remain competitive.The future will see a shift from services to software.Collaboration between humans and AI agents is essential.Understanding the unique strengths of different technologies is key.Building responsible AI agents is critical for trust and effectiveness.

Jun 16, 2025 • 35min
Writer CMO, Diego Lomanto
Writer CMO Diego Lomanto joins Dave Marcus and Rob Koplowitz for a discussion on the coming application landscape. As Agents continue to mature and provide greater and greater value, it's clear that business applications will evolve into something very different from today. Who will provide the market with this new class of applications? It could be traditional enterprise vendors, but moments like this are ripe for disruptors. Diego discusses Writer's focus on the enterprise, the critical differentiation offered by private LLMs, and provides examples of Writer agents driving value in the most regulated, mission-critical environments today.

Jun 9, 2025 • 31min
New Research: The AI App Platform Race
In this episode of Low Down on Low-Code, Rob Koplowitz and John Rymer discuss the evolving landscape of low-code application development, particularly in light of the rise of AI and its implications for SaaS. They explore various vendor perspectives, the challenges of integration and orchestration, and the shift towards process automation. The conversation highlights the strengths and weaknesses of established players like Microsoft, Pega, ServiceNow, Camunda, OutSystems, Mendix, Workato, and UiPath, as well as newer entrants in the market like Writer. The episode concludes with insights into their upcoming research report on the AI Application Platform Race.

May 27, 2025 • 33min
Camunda CTO, Daniel Meyer
In this episode of Low Down on Low-Code, hosts Rob Koplowitz and Dave Marcus engage with Daniel Meyer from Camunda to explore the intersection of low-code development, AI, and process automation. They discuss Daniel's journey to Camunda, the evolving role of AI in business processes, and the importance of BPMN in managing complex workflows. The conversation also touches on the future of open-source software, the integration of RPA and IDP technologies, and the concept of the autonomous enterprise, highlighting how organizations can leverage these advancements to enhance customer experiences and operational efficiency.TakeawaysDaniel Meyer shares his journey from sound engineering to process automation.AI is viewed through the lens of automation at Camunda.The evolution from manual processes to task automation is crucial.Measuring productivity gains is essential but not the end goal.Personalization of customer experiences will define future success.BPMN serves as a bridge between business and IT.Dynamic execution patterns in BPMN can accommodate AI decision-making.Robust orchestration is necessary for integrating various technologies.The definition of applications is shifting towards unstructured interactions.The future of business processes will be more autonomous and proactive.

May 5, 2025 • 33min
Angela Stewart; Tech Exec, Entrepreneur, Author, Innovator
In this episode, Angela Stewart discusses the transformative impact of AI on business development and citizen development. She shares her journey from a business background to a tech-focused role, emphasizing the importance of creativity and governance in AI implementation. Angela highlights success stories of AI applications, the evolution of ideation to production, and the risks associated with AI development, particularly in regulated industries. The conversation concludes with insights on the future of work and the necessity for creativity in leveraging AI technologies.Takeaways-AI has revolutionized application development processes.-Citizen development empowers business users to create solutions.-Governance is essential in managing AI implementations.-Creativity will be a key skill in the future workforce.-AI can significantly reduce the time from ideation to production.-Tech debt remains a critical concern in AI development.-Successful AI applications can emerge from simple ideas.-The role of business analysts is evolving with AI tools.-AI can enhance productivity by automating administrative tasks.-Collaboration between business and tech teams is crucial for success.

Apr 28, 2025 • 46min
We Got the Band Back Together w/ Julie Ask!
We've all heard it: software applications in the future will be completely different. Ok, how? We pulled in an old friend and colleague to dive into the question. Julie Ask of Julie Ask Advisory joins Low Down on Low-Code with Rob Koplowitz, John Rymer and Andy Bartels to discuss. The old friends and colleagues dive into the topic of what the future of applications will look like with more AI, copilots and agents. The four attempt to separate the hype from reality and provide some crunchy advise on where to place your bets now and in the future.

Apr 21, 2025 • 39min
Nathan Rose, Microsoft MVP and Functional Architect
In this episode of the Low Down on Low-Code podcast, hosts John Rymer and Ryan Duguid engage with Nathan Rose, a functional architect and Microsoft MVP, to explore the evolving landscape of low-code and no-code development. They discuss Nathan's journey into the low-code space, the role of AI and agents in automation, the skills required to work with these technologies, and the importance of governance and manageability. The conversation also addresses the fears surrounding AI and the future of low-code professionals in a rapidly changing environment.Takeaways-Nathan Rose has 15 years of experience in low-code.-Functional architects focus on user needs rather than technical coding.-AI is a significant theme in low-code development.-Deterministic automation is effective for known processes.-Stop catastrophizing about AI; it's an opportunity.-Hands-on experience with AI can lead to new opportunities.-Governance in AI and low-code is crucial to prevent issues.-The future of low-code professionals may require new skills.-Domain expertise will remain valuable in the age of AI.-AI will change the landscape of many jobs, creating new opportunities.

Apr 14, 2025 • 35min
Microsoft GM of Low-Code Marketing, Richard Riley
In this episode of Lowdown on Low-Code, Rob Koplowitz and John Rymer engage with Richard Riley, General Manager of Low-Code Marketing at Microsoft, discussing the evolution and impact of the Power Platform. They explore Richard's journey to Microsoft, the role of citizen developers, the integration of AI in low-code development, and the importance of governance and community in successful low-code adoption. The conversation also touches on the future of SaaS and the potential of agents in transforming business processes.TakeawaysPower Platform has evolved significantly over the years.Citizen developers play a crucial role in low-code adoption.AI is reducing barriers for non-technical users to engage with low-code tools.Community support is essential for low-code success.Governance is necessary to manage risks associated with low-code development.The future of SaaS may lean towards custom development with low-code solutions.Agents will transform how businesses automate processes.Low-code tools should be accessible to a broad audience.Training and change management are vital for low-code adoption.The integration of AI will enhance the capabilities of low-code platforms.

Apr 7, 2025 • 37min
Pega Chief of Launchpad, John Huehn
Francis Carden and Rob Koplowitz host Pega Chief of Launchpad, John Huehn. Launchpad is a radical departure from Pega's traditional business and holds the promise to upend ISV software development. The group discusses the transformative potential of low-code platforms, and how that can now extend to the ISV market. John, a key figure at Pega, shares his journey from the telecom industry to leading customer service innovations and now spearheading Launchpad.They explore the integration of AI in this space, the implications for private equity, VCs and self-funded ISV approaches, and the future landscape of software development.TakeawaysLow-code platforms are revolutionizing application development.Pega's Launchpad offers an end-to-end solution for SaaS.AI integration is crucial for modern software development.The shift from traditional coding to low-code is significant.Private equity sees potential in low-code solutions.Companies can focus on unique IP rather than infrastructure.Launchpad simplifies the development process for software providers.The future of software is about delivering outcomes efficiently.Low-code enables faster time-to-market for applications.Understanding the model is key to leveraging low-code effectively.