

The Deep View: Conversations
The Deep View
Artificial intelligence is a complicated topic, bound by many complex threads — technical science, ethics, safety, regulation, neuroscience, psychology, philosophy, investment, and — above all — humanity. On The Deep View: Conversations, Ian Krietzberg, host and Editor in Chief at The Deep View, breaks it all down, cutting through the hype to make clear what's important and why you should care.
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Jan 14, 2025 • 1h 19min
#6: The Coming Revolution of Man and Machine - Nada Sanders
We sat down with Dr. Nada Sanders, an expert in forecasting and human-technology interaction and the author of The Humachine, a book that explores a coming future of AI-enabled connection between men and machine. And today, we’re breaking down the pandemic-fueled rise of AI, and the many levers that will impact our ever-more digital future. Episode Links: The Humachine – https://nadasanders.com/books/the-humachine/How the pandemic impacted global supply chains – https://www.ey.com/en_us/insights/supply-chain/how-covid-19-impacted-supply-chains-and-what-comes-nextKasparov’s law – https://courtofthegrandchildren.com/kasparovs-law/Corporate AI adoption – https://www.thedeepview.co/p/business-spending-on-ai-jumps-500-to-13-8-billion-on-200-billion-in-capexAI-related job loss – https://www.thedeepview.co/p/chatgpt-s-impact-on-the-labor-market-openai-generative-ai-artificial-intelligence-job-loss-report-stMicrosoft and IBM AI reskilling – https://newsroom.ibm.com/2024-04-04-Leading-Companies-Launch-Consortium-to-Address-AIs-Impact-on-the-Technology-WorkforceAI hallucinations – https://www.thedeepview.co/p/the-nobel-prize-and-the-mainstreaming-of-ai-s-x-riskNeil Theise on complexity – https://www.columbia.edu/cu/tract/projects/complexity-theory.htmlRise of AI regulation – https://www.thedeepview.co/p/progress-predictions-2025-oversight-governance-and-regulationGary Marcus interview – https://youtu.be/-oTxLnmubVkOutline:0:00 – Intro 4:00 – The global pandemic and the rise of AI13:16 – AI and skill atrophy20:00 – People crave connection27:20 – AI and mounting job loss41:48 – Automating the future52:43 – The human will to live1:00:37 – Hallucination1:05:49 – The regulatory landscape1:15:52 – Staying positiveGet The Deep View — your daily source for in-depth, fact-based reporting on artificial intelligence — in your inbox every morning. Subscribe here!Connect with us on X, TikTok and Instagram. Artificial intelligence is a complicated topic, bound by a number of complex threads — technical science, ethics, safety, regulation, neuroscience, psychology, philosophy, investment and — above all — humanity. On The Deep View: Conversations, Ian Krietzberg, host and Editor-in-Chief at The Deep View, breaks it all down, cutting through the hype to make clear what's important and why you should care.

Jan 7, 2025 • 56min
#5: Identity Hijacking: The fight against AI fraud - Vijay Balasubramaniyan
We sat down with Vijay Balasubramaniyan, the co-founder and CEO of cybersecurity firm Pindrop. And today, we’re breaking down audio deepfakes and deepfake detection; what levers are in place to indicate whether a piece of audio is real or synthetic, and how those levers technically work. Episode Links: Pindrop – https://www.pindrop.com/The rise of deepfake fraud – https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriswestfall/2024/11/29/ai-deepfakes-of-elon-musk-on-the-rise-causing-billions-in-fraud-losses/Biden robocall – https://www.thestreet.com/technology/how-the-company-that-traced-fake-biden-robocall-identifies-a-synthetic-voiceThe deepfake threat – https://www.thestreet.com/technology/ai-cybersecurity-nonprofit-civai-deepfake-fraud-identity-theft-hijackingHow LLMs work – https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/07/a-jargon-free-explanation-of-how-ai-large-language-models-work/Closed vs. open AI – https://www.americanactionforum.org/insight/open-source-ai-the-debate-that-could-redefine-ai-innovation/Deepfake voice cloning – https://consumer.ftc.gov/consumer-alerts/2024/04/fighting-back-against-harmful-voice-cloningOutline: 0:00 – Intro 4:27 – The origins of audio deepfakes8:25 – The origins of Pindrop12:45 – The cybersecurity risk of a remote-first world28:33 – Open vs closed source31:20 – How Pindrop’s audio deepfake detection works37:18 – Staying ahead of the threat curve40:59 – Scaling improvements 43:24 – Building responsibility into the architecture47:18 – The importance of AI regulation52:22 – What can people do to protect themselves in this age of AI deepfakes? Get The Deep View — your daily source for in-depth, fact-based reporting on artificial intelligence — in your inbox every morning. Subscribe here!Connect with us on X, TikTok and Instagram. Artificial intelligence is a complicated topic, bound by a number of complex threads — technical science, ethics, safety, regulation, neuroscience, psychology, philosophy, investment and — above all — humanity. On The Deep View: Conversations, Ian Krietzberg, host and Editor-in-Chief at The Deep View, breaks it all down, cutting through the hype to make clear what's important and why you should care.

Dec 17, 2024 • 43min
#4: The truth behind self-driving cars - Missy Cummings
In this conversation, Dr. Missy Cummings, one of the U.S. Navy’s first female fighter pilots and director at George Mason University's Autonomy and Robotics Center, delves into the truths about self-driving cars. She shares insights on how these vehicles actually function and their significant limitations, particularly in unpredictable environments. Cummings discusses the importance of integrating human oversight, the challenges of collecting quality training data, and the misconceptions surrounding full autonomy. Prepare for a fascinating look into the future of transportation!

Dec 11, 2024 • 31min
#3: New Jersey's AI Language Translation
New Jersey's department of labor, in collaboration with USDR and Google.org, has assembled a set of training materials designed to turn off-the-shelf language models into bilingual unemployment insurance experts. We sat down with two of the people behind the launch to break it down.

Sep 30, 2024 • 1h 23min
#2: Is the Path to Empowerment Paved by AI? - Eric Xing
For Episode 2 of The Deep View: Conversations, we flew to Abu Dhabi to sit down with President Eric Xing of the Mohamed bin Zayed University of Artificial Intelligence, the world’s first AI-only university. We talk about everything from his unconventional journey to MBZUAI, misconceptions about the technology, the reality of progress in the field and the idea that, like the printing press, AI might usher in a new age for humanity, the age of empowerment. SPONSOR:Google Cloud: For all your cloud needs.Go to https://cloud.google.com/startup/apply?utm_source=cloud_sfdc&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=FY21-Q1-global-demandgen-website-cs-startup_program_mc&utm_content=the-deep-view&utm_term=-EPISODE LINKS:MBZUAI appoints Eric Xing: https://mbzuai.ac.ae/study/faculty/professor-eric-xing/Eric Xing addresses the class of 2024: https://mbzuai.ac.ae/news/presidents-address-to-the-class-of-2024/The printing press and the age of enlightenment: https://www.history.com/news/printing-press-renaissanceOUTLINE:00:47 Introduction to MBZUAI02:49 The Unexpected Offer05:19 Making the Decision10:01 A New Cultural Moment13:28 Starting at MBZUAI14:35 The Age of AI Empowerment21:44 AI’s Potential and Risks29:19 Regulating AI35:40 The Promise of AI43:39 AI as the Modern Microscope45:19 Limitations and Misconceptions of AI47:57 The Role of Language in AI50:26 AI Literacy and Public Perception01:01:00 Open Source vs. Closed Source Debate01:15:01 The Future of AI Education01:22:31 Conclusion and Final Thoughts SOCIAL LINKS:- X: https://twitter.com/thedeepview- Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedeepview.co/- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-deep-view-ai/

Sep 18, 2024 • 55min
#1: Why We Need to Tame Silicon Valley - Gary Marcus
Artificial intelligence is a complicated topic, bound by a number of complex threads — technical science, ethics, safety, regulation, neuroscience, psychology, philosophy, investment and — above all — humanity. On The Deep View: Conversations, Ian Krietzberg, host and Editor-in-Chief at The Deep View, breaks it all down, cutting through the hype to make clear what's important and why you should care. SPONSOR:Google Cloud: For all your cloud needs. Go to https://cloud.google.com/startupsEPISODE LINKS:Taming Silicon Valley: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262551069/taming-silicon-valley/Gary Marcus’ Testimony Before the Senate Judiciary Committee: https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/committee-activity/hearings/oversight-of-ai-rules-for-artificial-intelligenceGoogle DeepMind’s AlphaFold 3: https://alphafold.com/Generative AI’s Copyright Problem: https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/the-potential-genai-copyright-infringementEric Schmidt, Let the Lawyers Clean it Up: https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/16/24221353/eric-schmidt-says-the-quiet-part-out-loudDeep Learning is Hitting a Wall: https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/26-months-of-ridicule-and-failure?utm_source=publication-searchMarcus Bets Elon Musk $10 Million: https://garymarcus.substack.com/p/superhuman-agi-is-not-nighOUTLINE:1:30 – The inspiration behind 'Taming Silicon Valley'4:30 – Regulation won't stifle innovation; it'll do the opposite.7:10 – The potential upsides of AI (if it's done right).10:00 – Money, power and the original mission of AI12:11 – Generative AI's copyright problem13:35 – The culture and ethos of Silicon Valley14:45 – Here's how we can achieve ethical AI19:11 - Common AI misconceptions22:01 – Deep learning and exponential progress25:06 – The bursting of the AI bubble31:31 – New AI paradigms: Neurosymbolic AI33:45 – No AGI by 202738:00 – Is AGI possible?39:45 – The role of regulation42:15 – We shouldn't stop AI45:30 – Chatbots aren't the "droids we're looking for"49:30 – Is solving AI a good thing?51:10 – Silicon Valley is its own worst enemy53:20 – What should people do about AI? SOCIAL LINKS:- X: https://twitter.com/thedeepview - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedeepview.co/- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-deep-view-ai/