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CommPRO and the Museum of Public Relations proudly present That Said With Michael Zeldin. That Said, is a weekly series that takes a comprehensive look at the ideas, events, and people who shape our world. Led by TV legal and political analyst Michael Zeldin, his candid conversations with bestselling authors, thought leaders, and opinion-makers explore their ideas to help move us forward as a community and as a country.
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Mar 28, 2024 • 1h 5min
A Conversation with Jeffrey Rosen, Author, 'The Pursuit of Happiness: How Classical Writers on Virtue Inspired the Lives of the Founders and Defined America'
Join Michael in his conversation with Jeffrey Rosen about his compelling new book, The Pursuit of Happiness: How Classical Writers on Virtue Inspired the Lives of the Founders and Defined America.Jeffrey is the president and CEO of the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia which serves as the country’s leading platform for constitutional education and discussion. He hosts the podcast We the People, a weekly podcast of constitutional debate. He is a professor of law at George Washington University Law School and a contributing editor at The Atlantic.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Mar 21, 2024 • 1h 8min
A Conversation with Martha McPhee, Author, 'Omega Farm'
Join Michael in his conversation with Martha McPhee about her compelling new memoir, Omega Farm which chronicles her return to her childhood home during the pandemic to care for her cognitively impaired mother and her homestead and the memories this journey reveals to her.Martha is the author of five novels. Her work has been honored with fellowships from the National Endowment of the Arts and The John Simon Guggenheim Memorial Foundation. In 2002, she was nominated for a National Book Award. Her novels have been Best Books of The Year on The New York Times, Washington Post and Chicago Tribune lists. She is a tenured member of the English Department at Hofstra University where she teaches fiction. She lives in New York City with her children and husband, the poet and writer Mark Svenvold. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Mar 14, 2024 • 1h 12min
A Conversation with Janet Wallach, Author, ‘Flirting with Danger: The Mysterious Life of Marguerite Harrison, Socialite Spy’
Join Michael in his conversation with Janet Wallach about her new book, Flirting with Danger: The Mysterious Life of Marguerite Harrison, Socialite Spy which chronicles the life of Marguerite Harrison, America’s first female spy.Janet Wallach has written extensively about notable women in history, from the U.S., Europe, and the Middle East. Her book, Desert Queen; The Extraordinary Life of Gertrude Bell (1996), has been translated into twelve languages and was a New York Times notable book of the year.As a contributor to The Washington Post Magazine, Smithsonian Magazine and other periodicals, Janet Wallach has written cover story profiles of Queen Noor of Jordan, First Lady of Egypt Jihan Sadat, and Iraqi Ambassador Nizar Hamdoon. Wallach has taught at Bradford College, Earlham College, St. Olaphs College and more.Janet Wallach is a founding director and president emeritus of Seeds of Peace, a non-profit educational and leadership training program. Seeds of Peace brings together outstanding teenagers from regions in conflict including Israelis and Arabs, Indians and Pakistanis, and Americans of diverse backgrounds.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Mar 7, 2024 • 1h 3min
A Conversation with Katie Couric, Author, 'Going There'
Join Michael in his conversation with Katie Couric about her most interesting memoir, Going There, which chronicles her groundbreaking professional career while also intimately telling the story of her life beyond our TV screens.Katie is an award-winning journalist, a New York Times bestselling author, co-founder of her non-profit, Stand Up To Cancer and the co-founder of Katie Couric Media which produces documentaries, a digital video series, a podcast (Next Question with Katie Couric), and a daily Newsletter, Wake-Up Call.Katie’s awards include a duPont Columbia, a Peapody, two Eward R. Murrows, a Walter Chronkite, multiple Emmys, and the American Cancer Society Medal of Honor.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Feb 29, 2024 • 1h 13min
A Conversation with Steven Ujifusa, Author, ‘The Last Ships from Hamburg: Business, Rivalry, and The Race to Save Russia’s Jews on the Eve of World War I’
Join Michael in his conversation with Steven Ujifusa about his new book The Last Ships from Hamburg: Business, Rivalry, and The Race to Save Russia’s Jews on the Eve of World War I which chronicles the efforts to save Russian Jews from Czarist Russian pogroms.Steven is a historian who chronicles the confluence of American business, social, and maritime history. He is the recipient of the Washington Irving Medal for Literary Excellence from the Saint Nicholas Society of the City of New York, a MacDowell artist residency, and the Athenaeum of Philadelphia's Literary Award for Non-Fiction.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Feb 22, 2024 • 1h 14min
A Conversation with Fergus Bordewich, Author, 'Klan War: Ulysses S. Grant and the Battle to Save Reconstruction'
Join Michael in his conversation with Fergus Bordewich about his new book, Klan War: Ulysses S. Grant and the Battle to Save Reconstruction, which tells the story how President Grant, his attorney general, Amos Akerman, and Major Lewis Merrill led the successful, multi-year assault on the Ku Klux Klan.Fergus is one of the leading independent historians writing on 18th and 19th America. He is the author of eight previous award-winning non-fiction books including The First Congress: How James Madison, George Washington and a Group of Extraordinary Men Invented the Government which won the D.B. Hardeman Prize in American History.Purchase Klan War here.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Feb 16, 2024 • 1h 7min
A Conversation with Dave Kindred, Author, 'My Home Team: A Sportswriter’s Life and the Redemptive Power of Small-Town Girls Basketball'
Join Michael in his conversation with Dave Kindred as they discuss his new memoir My Home Team: A Sportswriter’s Life and the Redemptive Power of Small-Town Girls Basketball which details the arc of his award-winning career from one of sports most storied writers to his return home to cover a local girl's high school basketball team.Dave has covered sports for numerous newspapers and periodicals over a fifty-year career. He is one of only two sports writers who have earned sports writing’s three highest honors: The Red Smith Award, The PEN America ESPN Lifetime Achievement Award, and the Dan Jenkins Medal for Excellence in Sports writing. He is a member of the National Sports Media Hall of Fame.Order your copy of Dave's book here.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Feb 8, 2024 • 1h 11min
Doug Melville's Journey from 'Invisible Generals' to Leading DEI Initiatives
Step into this insightful conversation between Michael Zeldin and Doug Melville on the latest episode of "That Said." Together, they explore the narrative of Doug's new book, Invisible Generals: Rediscovering Family Legacy, and a Quest to Honor America’s First Black Generals. This remarkable true story unveils the pivotal roles played by Benjamin O. Davis, Sr., and Jr., America’s first Black generals, in integrating the military and fostering the iconic Tuskegee Airmen.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Feb 1, 2024 • 1h 6min
A Conversation with Professor Ed Ayers, Author, ‘American Visions, The United States, 1800-1860’
Join Michael in his conversation with Professor Edward L. Ayers about his fascinating new book American Visions: The United States, 1800-1860 which explores the revealing history of this most formative period in US history when voices of dissent and innovation help create visions of America still resonant today.Professor Ayers is Tucker-Boatwright Professor of the Humanities at the University of Richmond, where he is President Emeritus. President Barack Obama awarded him the National Humanities Medal in 2013, hailing his "commitment to making our history as widely available and accessible as possible."Professor Ayers has written prizewinning books on the history of the United States. They include In the Presence of Mine Enemies: Civil War in the Heart of America, winner of the Bancroft Prize and the Beveridge Prize; and The Promise of the New South: Life After Reconstruction, a finalist for the National Book Award and the Pulitzer Prize, and The Thin Light of Freedom: The Civil War and Emancipation in the Heart of America, winner of the Lincoln Prize and the Organization of American Historians’ prize for best book on the Civil War era. His most recent books are Southern Journey: The Migrations of the American South, 1790-2020 and American Visions: The United States, 1800-1860.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Jan 25, 2024 • 1h 8min
A Conversation with Scott Eyman, Author, "Charlie Chaplin vs. America, When Art, Sex, and Politics Collided"
On today’s show, we will be speaking with Scott Eyman about his fascinating new book, Charlie Chaplin vs. America, When Art, Sex, and Politics Collided which explores the life and times of the movie genius leading to his banishment from the United States in 1952.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy