That Said With Michael Zeldin

This Labor Day weekend, That Said revisits an intriguing conversation with Michael Finkel about his book The Art Thief. The book chronicles the extraordinary life of Stephen Breitweiser, the most prolific art thief in history, and has recently climbed the bestseller lists of both the New York Times and Washington Post with its paperback release.This interview is being re-released for two compelling reasons. First, the story of Stephen Breitweiser offers a gripping narrative that’s perfect for end-of-summer reading. Second, The Art Thief is a book that consistently resonates with readers around the world. Whether you're hearing this conversation for the first time or revisiting it, it promises to be a captivating listen. Enjoy this special Labor Day edition, and feel free to share your thoughts with us.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Join Michael in his discussion with David Gergen about his book, Hearts Touched with Fire, How Great Leaders are Made as they explore the fundamental attributes necessary to become a leader and the key leadership lessons David has stockpiled from his half-century of public service.David Gergenhttps://twitter.com/David_Gergenhttps://www.david-gergen.com/https://www.commpro.biz/news/a-conversation-with-david-gergen-author-hearts-touched-with-fire-how-great-leaders-are-madeAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Join Michael in his updated discussion with historian Heather Hendershot in a discussion of her book When the News Broke: Chicago 1968 and the Polarizing of America, which revisits the TV coverage of the 1968 Democratic National Convention in Chicago; a pivotal moment in American history when the notion of a liberal biased media became mainstreamed and nationalized.This discussion will also focus on the upcoming Democratic National Convention and what to look for in the coverage of the 2024 presidential election.BIOshttps://communication.northwestern.edu/faculty/heather-hendershot.htmlAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Join Michael in his updated discussion with E.J. Dionne, Jr. and Miles Rapoport about their new book 100% Democracy, The Case for Universal Voting, which argues that mandatory participation in our electoral system should be the cornerstone of our Democracy. Simply put, the authors make a compelling argument that it is time for the United States to recognize voting as both a fundamental civil right and a solemn civic duty of all U.S. citizensBIOshttps://www.commpro.biz/news/a-conversation-with-ej-dionne-and-miles-rapoport-authors-democracy-the-case-for-universal-votinghttps://www.amazon.com/100-Democracy-Case-Universal-Voting/dp/1620976773https://100percentdemocracy.org/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

This week we will re-release our February 2021 conversation with John Dean about his book Authoritarian Nightmare: Trump and His Followers.Authoritarian Nightmare was the first book to take a deep dive into the psychology of Trump’s voter base in an effort to answer such questions as: Why does his rhetoric continue to appeal to them, while his actions are often contrary to their economic, health and religious interests? Why do his followers believe his lies despite so much proof to the contrary? Why do they continue to have faith in a man whose words and actions continue to contradict reality?The Monmouth University Polling Institute which provided research on Authoritarian tendencies to support for John’s book, has released a new poll this month, July 2024, that explores the continuing prevalence of authoritarianism tendencies in the American populace, especially among Trump voters. https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/2020/08/25/authoritarian-tendencies-in-the-american-electorate-part-1/https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/2020/08/25/authoritarianism-among-pro-and-anti-trump-voters-part-2/https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_US_071124/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Join Michael in his conversation with Michael Wolraich about his new book The Bishop and the Butterfly, Murder, Politics, and the End of the Jazz Age which tells the gripping story of the rise and fall of the New York Tammany Hall political machine intertwined with a murder-mystery that set everything in motion.Her body lay in the undergrowth beside a road that snaked through Bronx’s Van Cortlandt Park. It might have gone unnoticed but for a white kid glove snagged on a bush that caught the morning light, drawing the attention of a pedestrian. Her hair was auburn and fashionably short. She wore a black velvet dress and a single suede shoe. A dirty noose squeezed her throat so tightly that it broke the skin. The murder was sensational, even by the jaded standards of the bloody Prohibition Era. Journalists rushed to the scene and breathlessly expounded on the victim’s beauty and glamorous clothing. But the biggest bombshell landed after the body was identified as Benita Bischoff, alias Vivian Gordon. The lead detective described her as a “a woman of many acquaintances,” while the Bronx DA called her “a shakedown artist.” When detectives searched her posh Midtown apartment, they found scandalous black books and an explosive clue—a letter from an anti-corruption investigation that had exposed a heinous police conspiracy. These shocking discoveries riveted the public and set in motion events that ultimately brought down the corrupt political machine that had ruled New York for generations.Michael is the critically acclaimed narrative non-fiction author of two previous books Unreasonable Men and Blowing Smoke. His writing has appeared in Rolling Stone, The Atlantic, New York Magazine, among numerous other publications. Wolraich grew up in Iowa and graduated from Williams College in Massachusetts and has lived in New York City since 2000.https://michaelwolraich.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Join Michael in his conversation with George Stephanopoulos about his new book The Situation Room, The Inside Story of Presidents in Crisis which recounts the crises and the decisions that shaped the course of history from its creation in 1961 through to today. No room better defines American power and its role in the world than the White House Situation Room. And yet, none is more shrouded in secrecy and mystery.The Situation Room is the definitive past-the-security-clearance look at the room where history has been made. Detailing close calls made and disasters narrowly averted, The Situation Room takes readers through minute-by-minute transcripts after both Presidents Kennedy and Reagan were shot; the shocking moment when Henry Kissinger raised the military alert level to DEFCON III while President Nixon was drunk in the White House residence; the extraordinary scene when President Carter asked for help from secret government psychics to rescue American hostages in Iran; a vivid retelling of the harrowing hours during the 9/11 attack; new details from Obama administration officials leading up to the raid on Osama Bin Laden; and a first-ever account of January 6th from the staff inside the Sit Room.  George is the host of ABC's This Week with George Stephanopoulos and co-anchor of Good Morning America. He joined ABC News in 1997 as an analyst for This Week. Prior to joining ABC News, he served in the Clinton administration as the senior advisor to the president for policy and strategy. He is the author of All Too Human, a New York Times bestseller.Lisa Dickey is an American author who has helped clients write more than 20 published nonfiction books, including eleven New York Times Best Sellers. Authors with whom she has worked include Jill Biden, Patrick Swayze, Gavin Newsom, Cissy Houston, Herbie Hancock, Tammy Duckworth, Sheila Johnson and Roberta Kaplan. Her collaborations have spanned a vast array of topics, from politics to business to entertainment to international relations.George Stephanopouloshttps://linktr.ee/gstephanopouloshttps://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/Lisa Dickeyhttps://lisadickey.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Join Michael in his conversation with Professor Barbara McQuade about her new book Attack from Within, How Disinformation is Sabotaging America which addresses the issue of how disinformation is polarizing American society and threatening the foundations of our democracy.We are strategically being pushed apart by disinformation—the deliberate spreading of lies disguised as truth—and it comes at us from all sides: opportunists on the far right, Russian misinformed social mediainfluencers, among others. It’s endangering our democracy and causing havoc in our electoral system,schools, hospitals, workplaces, and in our Capitol.Advances in technology including rapid developments in artificial intelligence threaten to make the problems even worse by amplifying false claims and manufacturing credibility.In Attack from Within, Barbara McQuade, shows us how to identify the ways disinformation is seeping into all facets of our society and how we can fight against it.Follow Barbara McQuade:https://twitter.com/barbmcquadeAttack from Withinhttps://www.barbaramcquade.com/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Join Michael in his conversation with Professor Eddie Glaude Jr. about his new book, We Are The Leaders We Have Been Looking For which makes the case that the hard work of becoming a better person should be a critical feature of American democracy. Through virtuoso interpretations of Martin Luther King, Jr., Malcolm X, and Ella Baker, Glaude shows how we have the power to be the heroes that our democracy so desperately requires.Follow Eddie Glaude Jr. https://twitter.com/esglaudeBuy the book: We Are the Leaders We Have Been Looking ForOne of the nation's most prominent scholars, Dr. Eddie S. Glaude Jr., is a passionate educator, author, political commentator, and public intellectual who examines the complex dynamics of the American experience. A highly accomplished and respected scholar of religion, Glaude is a former president of the American Academy of Religion. His books on religion and philosophy include "An Uncommon Faith: A Pragmatic Approach to the Study of African American Religion", "African American Religion: A Very Short Introduction", and "Exodus! Religion, Race and Nation in Early 19th Century Black America", which was awarded the Modern Language Association's William Sanders Scarborough Book Prize.Glaude is the James S. McDonnell Distinguished University Professor of African American Studies, a program he first became involved with shaping as a doctoral candidate in Religion at Princeton.  He served as the inaugural chair of the department for more than fourteen years. He is also on the Morehouse College Board of Trustees. He frequently appears in the media, as a columnist for TIME Magazine and as an MSNBC contributor on programs like Morning Joe and Deadline Whitehouse with Nicolle Wallace. He also regularly appears on Meet the Press on Sundays. Combining a scholar's knowledge of history, a political commentator's take on the latest events, and an activist's passion for social justice, Glaude challenges all of us to examine our collective American conscience.Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Join Michael in his conversation with Robin Bernstein about her new book, Freeman’s Challenge, The Murder That Shook America’s Original Prison for Profit, which tells a gripping story of murder, greed, race, and the true origins of prisons for profit in Auburn, NY decades before the Civil War.Robin Bernstein is a cultural historian who specializes in U.S. racial formation from the nineteenth century to the present. She is the Dillon Professor of American History and professor of African and African American studies and studies of women, gender, and sexuality at Harvard University. Her previous book is titled Racial Innocence: Performing American Childhood from Slavery to Civil Rights. Robin Bernsteinhttps://x.com/RobinMBernsteinFreeman's Challengehttps://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/F/bo213968137.htmlAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy