

The Clinical Excellence Podcast
Adam Cifu, MD
The Clinical Excellent Podcast, sponsored by the Bucksbaum Institute for Clinical Excellence is a biweekly podcast hosted by Drs. Adam Cifu and Matthew Sorrentino. The podcast has three formats: discussions between doctors and patients, discussions with authors of research pertinent to improving clinical care and the doctor-patient relationship and discussions with physicians about challenges in the doctor-patient relationship or in the life of a physician.
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Oct 21, 2025 • 20min
The Doctor–Patient Relationship in Mid-Career Primary Care
Dr. Jason Alexander, an associate professor at the University of Chicago and a specialist in evidence-based medicine, joins to discuss the evolving doctor-patient relationship in mid-career. He shares insights on transitioning from new physician to experienced clinician, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and listening. Jason highlights the challenges of treating colleagues and their families while maintaining boundaries. He also discusses how embracing uncertainty fosters trust and the vital role of reflective practice in reinforcing successful care.

Oct 7, 2025 • 27min
Exploring the Doctor–Patient Relationship in Hematology and Oncology
Dr. Michael Drazer, a hematologist-oncologist and geneticist with expertise in hereditary blood disorders and cancer, shares insights on enhancing the doctor-patient relationship. He reflects on how diverse mentorship has shaped his clinical approach and emphasizes the importance of adapting to patients' needs over time. Dr. Drazer discusses the significance of aligning treatment choices with patient goals, the impact of ongoing research on care, and his commitment to clear communication during uncertain diagnostic journeys.

Sep 23, 2025 • 19min
The Doctor–Patient Relationship as Seen by a Senior Physician
Dr. Alex Lickerman, a direct primary care physician and author, shares insights from his extensive medical career. He emphasizes the importance of balancing authority and empathy in doctor-patient interactions. Trust is crucial in modern medicine, especially amidst misinformation. Alex discusses strategies for managing frustrations with patients while avoiding care withdrawal. He highlights the significance of long-term relationship building and applies psychological insights to enhance patient adherence. Finally, he shares his experiences in guiding families through end-of-life decisions with compassion.

Mar 25, 2025 • 24min
The Third Phase of an Academic Medicine Career
In this season finale episode, Dr. Adam Cifu sits down with transplant nephrologist Dr. Michelle Josephson to explore the unique challenges and opportunities that arise in the later stages of an academic medical career. Dr. Josephson openly discusses the struggle to maintain a sense of relevance, the need to redefine one's priorities and goals, and the bittersweet experience of losing colleagues to retirement and passing. However, she also highlights the freedom and excitement that can come with this transitional phase, allowing her to pursue new global initiatives in areas like green nephrology. This provides an insightful look at navigating the "third phase" of a distinguished career.

Mar 11, 2025 • 22min
From ER to Advanced Illness Management - A Physician's Varied Career Journey
In this episode, we speak with Dr. Jennifer Brokaw about her varied and impressive career in medicine. Dr. Brokaw shares how she transitioned from emergency medicine into founding a private practice focused on advanced illness management and end-of-life care, driven by a desire to tackle complex societal challenges she witnessed in the ER. She discusses the unique value she was able to provide as an independent advocate for patients and families, as well as the challenges of building a sustainable business model around these services. Dr. Brokaw's insights offer a fascinating look at alternative paths for doctors beyond traditional clinical roles. This conversation provides an engaging glimpse into one physician's remarkable career journey.

Feb 25, 2025 • 27min
Clinical Training So Far - Surgical Resident
In this installment of our series talking with medical trainees, we're joined by Dr. Ava Ferguson Bryan, a general surgery resident at the University of Chicago. Dr. Ferguson Bryan shares her winding path to medicine, from initially pursuing English and art history, to discovering a passion for surgery during her clinical rotations.She provides an honest look at the challenges and sacrifices of surgical training, including the lengthy 7-8 year commitment and the impact on work-life balance, especially as a woman having children during residency. Dr. Ferguson Bryan also discusses the evolving landscape of surgical education, including competency-based assessments that may allow for more flexibility in training duration.This episode offers valuable insights for aspiring physicians navigating the realities of surgical specialties and the broader effort to diversify the field. Dr. Ferguson Bryan's personal experience provides a nuanced perspective on the progress made, as well as the work still needed to support the next generation of surgeon-trainees.

Feb 11, 2025 • 24min
Clinical Training So Far - Chief Medical Resident
Gaining an inside look at the realities of medical training, this episode features a conversation with Layne Keating, a chief medical resident at the University of Chicago. Layne shares her experiences navigating the transition from medical school at the Frank H. Netter MD School of Medicine at Quinnipiac University to residency, highlighting the importance of being given autonomy and the ability to make real clinical decisions.She explains how this hands-on responsibility, even with the support of her team, has been critical for developing the confidence and problem-solving skills needed to be an effective physician. Layne contrasts this with concerns that overprotecting trainees from having to make tough choices during their education can make the leap to independent practice much more difficult.The conversation also touches on the use of letters of recommendation in the residency application process. Layne and Dr. Adam Cifu discuss how more holistic, thoughtful approaches may be needed to evaluate the suitability of medical trainees.This transparent discussion provides a unique perspective on the highs and lows of the clinical training journey, as well as insights into improving medical education to better prepare the next generation of physicians.To read more:https://medicine.qu.edu/https://www.sensible-med.com/p/letters-of-recommendation-should-fb0

Jan 28, 2025 • 20min
Clinical Training So Far - Medical Resident
In this episode, we continue our series exploring the experiences of medical trainees. Dr. Adam Cifu is joined by Arman Shahriar, MD, a third-year internal medicine resident at the University of Chicago. Arman shares his nontraditional path to medicine, including teaching in Ecuador and working in the medical device industry. He provides a candid look at residency life, from the grueling schedules to the unexpected challenges and the camaraderie forged during training.Arman is also the author of two compelling articles: On One-Liners and Doing No Harm, which explores the power of language in patient care, and The Wrong Fight—Prior Authorization, a personal account of navigating systemic barriers.To read Dr. Shahriar's above-mentioned articles, check them out here:• On One-Liners and Doing No Harm: https://journals.lww.com/academicmedicine/fulltext/2023/10000/on_one_liners_and_doing_no_harm.24.aspx• The Wrong Fight—Prior Authorization: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaoncology/article-abstract/2813580

Jan 14, 2025 • 21min
Clinical Training So Far - Medical Student
Kicking off a series of talks with people in medical training, this episode features third-year student Nihar Rama discussing his experiences and insights so far. Nihar discusses how his personal background as a patient has shaped his empathetic approach to caring for patients. He reflects on the importance of maintaining confidence while also expressing humility, and the challenges of developing strong interpersonal skills alongside medical knowledge. Nihar offers thoughtful perspectives on how medical education could better assess and cultivate the human qualities, beyond just academic acumen, that are essential for becoming an excellent clinician.

Dec 10, 2024 • 28min
The Cancer Journey
In this episode, Dr. Adam Cifu sits down with Dr. Chadi Nabhan—a hematologist, oncologist, author, and healthcare leader—to discuss his inspiring career transitions and his latest book, The Cancer Journey: Understanding Diagnosis, Treatment, Recovery, and Prevention. They explore the phases of a cancer diagnosis, the emotional toll on patients and caregivers, and the critical role of communication and second opinions. Dr. Nabhan also shares insights from his work at a company advancing AI technology to accelerate clinical trials. He is also the author of Toxic Exposure: The True Story Behind the Monsanto Trials and the Search for Justice.To learn more about Dr. Nabhan's The Cancer Journey and read an article about the book, visit ASCO Connection: https://connection.asco.org/magazine/features/cancer-journey-dr-chadi-nabhan-uses-storytelling-plain-language-simplify-complex.