
Historically Thinking
Conversations about historical knowledge and how we achieve it.
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May 20, 2024 • 25min
Intellectual Humility and Historical Thinking: Joseph Manning
Yale professor Joseph Manning discusses historical climate change, impact of volcanism in Ancient Egypt, and intellectual humility in historical thinking. He explores Nile River's role in shaping ancient civilizations and emphasizes the importance of analytical frameworks in historical analysis.

May 13, 2024 • 1h 13min
Episode 360: City of Light, City of Darkness
Michael Rapport, a historian of Paris during the Belle Époque era, discusses the tensions between modernity and tradition in the city. He explores the political conflicts, social tensions, and cultural friction of the era, leading up to the devastating impact of World War I. The podcast delves into the Belle Époque era, nostalgia for a Golden Age, political symbolism in 19th century France, concerns about societal degeneration in modernity, Bohemian life in Paris, and the turbulent Dreyfus Affair.

May 6, 2024 • 1h 10min
Episode 359: Damascus Events
Explore the devastating mob attack on the Christian Quarter of Damascus in 1860, leading to widespread destruction. Learn about the causes, timeline of violence, and the challenging aftermath of reintegration for the Christian community. Discover the historical significance of Damascus, the multifaceted life of Mihayil Myshaka, the Tanzimat agenda, the life and exile of Ab al-Kadir, and the efforts to restore justice post-massacre in 1860 Damascus.

Apr 29, 2024 • 1h 12min
Episode 358: Narrative
The podcast explores the dominance of narratives in modern conversations, the challenges and importance of narrative in historical writing, military exercises during the American Revolution, historical fiction writing impact on understanding history, language of the past in understanding historical events, and explores Athens and Sparta relationships in ancient Greece.

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Apr 22, 2024 • 1h 1min
Episode 357: Empire of Climate
Explore the historical evolution of climate's effects, from ancient writings to modern reports. Discussing climate's impact on health, morality, and human cognition over time. Dive into the interconnectedness of climate, wealth, and slavery in the US. Analyzing geographical determinism and climate's influence on societies. Delve into climate as a theological substitution historically.

Apr 15, 2024 • 1h 7min
Episode 356: First Dark Ages?
In 1177 BC a series of very unfortunate events culminated in the collapse of numerous kingdoms centered upon the western Mediterranean. The nature of those events, and how one played upon the other, was the topic of our conversation with Eric Cline way back in Episode 62, when we talked about his book 1177 BC: The Year Civilization Collapsed.
Now Eric Cline is back on the podcast to answer one of the great questions, “and then what happened?” That is also the task of his most recent book After 1177 BC: The Survival of Civilizations. We shall talk about those who survived, those who didn’t, and why–and, for those of you who like rating Presidents and baseball players, we'll discuss the winners, the losers, and those who came out sort of even. Finally we'll even talk about whether there is ever such a thing as a "dark age".
Eric H. Cline is professor of classics and anthropology at George Washington University. His most recent book is 1177 B.C.: A Graphic History of the Year Civilization Collapsed.
For Further Investigation
The website of Erich H. Cline
We have talked about calamity, disaster, and disruption several times in past episodes. See conversations with Ed Watts, first on the fall of the Roman Republic in Episode 93; and then again on the "eternal fall" of Rome, in Episode 219. In Episode 224 I talked with David Potter about historical disruption, that moment when it feels as if a civilization is going over a waterfall.

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Apr 8, 2024 • 0sec
Episode 355: Steam Powered
Aaron W. Marrs, a historian and author, dives into the transformative power of steam technology in 19th-century America. He discusses how railroads and steamboats reshaped travel, culture, and communication, enabling people to experience landscapes and communities in unprecedented ways. The conversation touches on the paradox of risk in steam travel, the influence of steam on American music, and the way guidebooks evolved with commercialized travel. Marrs also highlights the complex cultural shifts catalyzed by these advancements, including implications for societal norms and sensitive dialogues.

Apr 1, 2024 • 1h 9min
Episode 354: Collisions
In late July 2013, Vladimir Putin visited Kiev. There he celebrated the 1,025th anniversary of Christianity coming to the Kievan Rus. There he and Ukrainian President Victor Yanukovych stood shoulder to shoulder and celebrated the unity of Russia and Ukraine. At that moment–my guest Michael Kimmage writes– Putin and Yanukovych, Russia and Ukraine, seemed to be “twin protagonists of the same story.” Seven months later things were very different indeed.
This was because of what my guest Michael Kimmage describes as a series of collisions which resulted in the war that began in 2014, and which accelerated in 2022. The first collision was between Russia and Ukraine; the second between Russia and Europe; and the third between Russia and the United States.
Michael Kimmage is Professor of History at the Catholic University of America where is chair of the department. From 2014 to 2016, he served on the Secretary’s Policy Planning Staff at the US Department of State, where he held the Russia/Ukraine portfolio. He was last on Historically Thinking in Episode 165 to discuss his book The Abandonment of the West: The History of an Idea in American Foreign Policy. His most recent book is Collisions: The Origins of the War in Ukraine and the New Global Instability, and it is the subject of our conversation today.
For Further Investigation
The list of Historically Thinking conversations either directly connection or tangentially related to this conversation with Michael Kimmage is vast. Here are just a few...
Episode 211: The (Quiet) Russian Revolution
Episode 212: The Perennial Russian Pivot to Asia
Episode 284: The Greatest Russian General, in War and Peace
Episode 345: The Ecology of Nations

Mar 25, 2024 • 1h 7min
Episode 353: Devils’ Rise
On June 24, 1894, President of France Sadi Carnot was stabbed by an anarchist; on September 10, 1898, Empress Elisabeth of Austria was stabbed by an anarchist; on July 29, 1900, King Umberto I of Italy was shot by an anarchist; on September 6, 1901, President of the United States William McKinley was shot by an anarchist. If you have ever wondered why people in the 1900s right up to the Great War, and beyond, all seem to have had anarchists on the brain, those are four of the reasons. But these attention-grabbing acts were far from the first anarchist attacks to capture the public imagination, and nowhere near the most violent or destructive, as my guest today makes clear. From the mid 19th century, the combination of technological and cultural developments in mass media and in weaponry made acts of violence resonate around the globe. “What follows,” writes James Crossland in the preface to his new book, “is the story of how…revolutionaries, thinkers, killers and spies learned a lesson as heinous as it has proved enduring, resonating with menace into our own troubled age – the means by which to bring terror to the world.”
James Crossland is Professor of International History at Liverpool John Moores University, where he is co-director of the Centre for Modern and Contemporary History. His interests are in—among other things—terrorism, propaganda, the International Red Cross and the history of international humanitarian law. His third and most recent book is The Rise of the Devils: Fear and the Origins of Modern Terrorism, and it is the subject of our conversation today.
For Further Investigation
The Orsini Bomb
The Paris Commune
William McKinley: Death of the President
Anarchist Incidents

Mar 14, 2024 • 52min
Intellectual Humility and Historical Thinking: Mark Carnes
Today’s guest is Mark Carnes, Professor of History at Barnard College. His academic speciality is modern American history and pedagogy. Among his many books are an edited volume, Meanings for Manhood: Constructions of Masculinity in Victorian America (University of Chicago Press, 1992), and Secret Ritual and Manhood in Victorian America (Yale University Press, 1989). An interest in how history appears in things other than histories led him to edit Past Imperfect: History According to the Movies, and Novel History: Historians and Novelists Confront America's Past (and Each Other)—both of which have a dazzlingly impressive array of contributors. In 1995 Mark Carnes pioneered a new pedagogy, a role-playing pedagogy—now known as Reacting to the Past— which placed students and their efforts to understand the past in the center of the classroom experience. He has written several games in the Reacting to the Past series, as well as Minds on Fire: How Role-Immersion Games Transform College, which he and I discussed way back in Episode 16. (I also discussed RTP in Episode 77 with historian Nick Proctor; and the philosophy of educational games with Kellian Adams in Episode 18.)
As is always the case with these conversations, and unlike more typical conversations on the podcast, we will be following a set format of questions…though we reserve the right to wander off the set path.